Crew21_Adv

SMT224, Regarding the difference of your Scouts between 2001-2005 and then 2008 till present. JLTC was the previous course, till 2005. It was same curriculum for Wood Badge For Boy Scout Leaders, which changed in 2000. The goal is the same, but the skills and practices may be somewhat different from a NYLT participant. Now my troop has regularly sent Scouts to JLTC and NYLT. The results are routinely good, nothing dramatically exciting. THe graduates come back and do apply some leadership and PL and SPL. Then a few years back, we had an newly elected SPL, for the first

Fellow Scouters and Fellow Ebayers, Greetings! My personal thoughts.... I don't care if someone purchases an item over Ebay. I am only concern if they wear it or demonstrate it falsely. I personally have purchased a few duplicates, or patches of events that I've attended but never "got the patch". I know a few members of my council committee, that purchased a high-priced limited-issue item, just to take it off of the Ebay (and also to keep the distribution limited). What I feel is only slightly disappointing is the diluting of limited issue items, a fund raiser p

WestCoastScouter and Fellow Scouters, Greetings! Like many, I don't have a concrete answer from the book, but I do have an opinion on the topic that I would like to share. ScoutParent is a position on the charter. It is not a paid membership position though. BSA nor the troops can enforce membership to complete any training. However BSA (and Chartering Organizations) can refuse membership applications if they do not complete training; furthermore BSA can not endorse tour permits, if all the requirements are not met by the unit. Under the ScoutParents literature found

Fellow Scouters, I concur with Eagle92 statement. That the adult leadership and PLC is there to deliver a program, advancement will follow. And Sorry bacchus, this is not to answer your questions, but just for me to rant on boy led vs adult led. I have heard and repeated, that Chartering Organizations utilize Scouting within their outreach and youth development programs. Most of all of the time, it identically parallels Scouting methods and ideals. But I've been told by a few DE's, that for Chartering Organzations, Scouting is like a shopping store. Of course they cannot violate

Fellow Venturers, I'm not a big fan of this new Venturing shirt. Just to chime in and add my 2 cents. I've made a few phone calls to NSC, and got just a few hints. Nothing absolute though. I called the NSC toll free number a few weeks ago, as the regular sizes Venturing Uniform shirts started to disappear from the Scoutstuff.org. My Crew very recently has had a few more youth joining our Crew, and attempting to complete their uniform. Of course, they are BSA NSC employees. Sometimes they do not know about the program, they are just reading from a webpage and can som

CNYScouter and Fellow Scouters, Greetings! I have not attended this training "High Adventure Skills Training for Venturers". Sorry I do not know what it consist of. But it is a valid course and title. I have found it in an Excel file of national training codes which have been shared with database developers. It is titled the same as your post, High Adventure Skills Training for Venturers, code H42, established 1 August 1998. It is also listed under training codes on the Scouting.org website, however the title is abbreviated, so an internet search of the full title may no

BulldogBlitz and Fellow Scouters, Greetings! You've already received some excellent comments. I like SMT224 comment, something like allowing them to attend, and if they drop the MB that is on them. Regarding emails. I know many parents that don't allow their 11 y/o son to have an email address. It makes it difficult communicating between a Scout and a MB counselor, SM or ASM. For a brief sidebar note. It is really difficult with the OA Chapter, when there are 1-2 youth email address on the Chapter roster; and you see many father's professional work email addresses f

NickP412, Greetings! I personally like the OA Legend patch. I see few Arrowmen wearing them, and I see many Arrowmen that never wear them. In keeping with the uniform guidelines, I do not wear the patch on the outside of my sash. But (jokingly) in silent protest of the Uniform Police, my family and I wear our OA Legend patches on the inside of the sash. On the front half and facing towards the shirt and chest. If a fellow Scout actually came up an inspected our sashes, the patch can clearly be seen (facing towards the inside though). I can use it to help refresh new

mom2specialboyz, Greetings! I've heard and read this in a few similar literature and webpages. Although I cannot quickly find any "concrete evidence" BSA published literature that states the meaning of the BSA emblem. Below is a good description. Here is is cut and pasted below (Quote) The shape of the complete Scout badge, which is also on the First Class badge of rank, was adapted from the north point of an old maritime compass. The design is often called a trefoil - a flower with three leaves. It is also known by its French name, fleur-de-lis - lily or iris flower

Fellow Venturers, Greetings! I don't know if Venturing Uniforms has been discussed most recently. (May 2010) As my Crew was purchasing additional spruce green shirts from the scoutstuff.org National Supply Center. They no longer carry the average sizes. So, I called the 1800 customer service line. What did NSC say about the Venturing shirts? The customer order line from National Supply Center stated that the current Venturing Crew shirts are either out of stock or being liquidated. And that NSC is expecting a shipment of the new style Venturing shirts in August.

CubPackComChr, Greetings! Without reading thru the entire post, if the father wants to recognize accomplishments of his cub scout son, without this younger son attending a den meeting. If the decision of the committee is not in favor for this younger cub. Possibly the younger brother could be enrolled as a Lone Scout with the district/council, and dis-enrolled from the Pack. Here are couple of disappointments I've witnessed over the years. One of the two did have an acceptable outcome. Years ago, I have seen a Pack take a liking to one Cub Scout. He was a good ki

jhankins, Iv'e seen a few. Some are emotional and may get a little dust in your eye. But, the best Scouting slide show I've ever seen; it was about 20 years ago, with about 300 Scouters at a Scouting dinner celebration. It was a 35mm slide show (before powerpoint), on three screens. Each screen had different pictures. Most of the pictures last half a second (if that long). And it was set to the theme music of the television show Hawaii 5-0. You could barely hear incomplete sentences across the tables, the action pictures flashed so fast. "Did you", "Hey that wa", "I remem

Fellow Scouters, A few of my comments... The TC face is so cute, I barely noticed his shirt. Or maybe they are just going for the realistic look. At least all of the TC patches were sewn on, and not stapled to the shirt. lol Scouting Forever and Venture On! Crew21 Adv

http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/02-209.pdf Fellow Scouters, Scouting has had a continious partership with Buddhist Temples for nearly 80 years. This is even posted on the Scouting website. From my memory, in Aloha Council and Maui County Council there are plently of Buddhist Temples that are Chartering Organizations with sizable troops. Thoughts? To respond to your Scout. The issue is their choice, the Scout & family have not been excluded. Either the family will join the troop or they will not. To respond to the boy and his family, I would recommend th

Fellow Scouters, Greetings! If I may comment on Eagle92 and Gary_Miller's, dialogue. From my own experience as a trainer and commissioner. Ive had many friends that are of the LDS faith, as well as friends of many other denominations. I have never seen a perfect unit . I've visited Catholic, Methodist, and community-based troops that were top notch and others that were doing just half the job and barely advancing. While visited LDS sponsored troops; Ive witnessed nearly perfect, uniformed, 7 parts of a meeting, patrol meetings, skills development, advancement and

Twocubdad, http://www.oa-bsa.org/resources/pubs/GOA-2008.pdf Greetings! This particular obtacle is a challenge each election period for my local chapter and local troops. John-in-KC is correct, and I'm sure a few others just getting to this post will see it also. Without the entire quote, its on the bottom right of page 22, in the Guide. There is also a national OA DVD, created by Unami Lodge and Cradle of Liberty Council at Treasure Island Scout Reservation. The most recent election video describes the election procedures very well. It can also be found on Yout

BDPT00 and Fellow Wood Badgers, Greetings! Agree.. After re-reading my post, I didn't make myself clear and my previous statement was vague. Please allow me to try this again. Prior to 2000, both WB for Boy Scout Leaders Junior Leader Training Course used identical curriculum. The entire course was identical, placing JLTC in for WB throughout the instructor guide. The evening of day-three (or the return on the second weekend) was an artificial stressor, to cause the patrols to work harder on communication and leadership skills. In the previous courses WBforBSL and JLTC,

Fellow Scouters, Yes. I can agree with John in KC. The NYLT has a different topic, ethical decisions at this time. (I don't have my NYLT literature in front of me now) I believe the decisions are Win-Win, Win-Lose, and Trivial during that class. If I recall correct the NYLT bottom line is that a person will usually have to select each one of these decisions, however Win-Win is usually be most beneficial. Back to WB21C. The Bottom Line "Everyone can win", can probably be delivered via a different game or event and following lesson. WB21C is already on the fourth or fifth

Fellow Wood Badgers, I've seen the Wood Badge game show and "Win All You Can" played a few times. At this point of the course, it places pressure on the patrols again, and put them back into the storming, norming phase. I've only attended full week course, but I believe this is Friday night (on the two weekend courses), which is after a month of socializing, laughing and maybe some team building by patrol members. One Wood Badge game show was played high tech, with powerpoint and buzzers. The timing allowed for alot of arguments about correct answers. The patrols were alread

Skeptic and Fellow Scouters, Greetings! I view eBay dealers as source. It's up to the Scout/Scouter to be honest. Although, I try to find some sarcastic humor in the larger eBay dealers. I've discussed with a few fellow Scouters around the campfire. My theory, I bet a majority of them are employees for some of the usual BSA patch manufacturers. And while a patch company is contracted for 100-500 limited edition patches, maybe another 50-100 fall of off the loom or assembly line, and accidently fall into a cardboard box that is carried home. While patch imperfection

WestCoastScouter, Greetings! Past reasons... Disagreements amongst adults. (Money, program, religion, politics, etc). The Cubs will attend only if their parents bring/drive them. Almost the same for Boy Scouts and Venturers. Youth may have a disagreement or fight, but they can usually resolve their anger in hours-days. Adults seem to carry a grudge for years. The next Scout unit's program may be better organized or their program may be loosely thrown together. But if the parents are not fighting; and they are either talking about the next camping trip or

CPAMom, Greetings! There is a drop in membership between Webelos and Scouting. What the actual percentage numbers are, I don't know. Regarding your first question. Anyone know what the problem is? Some fellow forum members have given a few thought as to why 1st year Scouts (and families) go elsewhere. There are plenty of other things to occupy a 1st year Scouts time. Here are my thoughts, as to the problems.. Not enough buy in, no advancement (camping), and no attention. Here are my thoughts to resolve some of the problems. There usually is not enough "b

Scoutfish, Greetings! John in KC pretty much summed it up. No district or council event occurs without planning. However, I would expect each year, request to conduct new events are applied for. Straddling the fence.... You will never know if an event can be sanctioned, until you ask your local council camping committee. Some events may never be sanctioned to occur at the unit level. Other unit level events may receive authorization and be sanctioned. New programs and new outdoor experiences are introduced to Scouting each year. Bu those concepts have to go thru a

Mom2Scouts06, hmmm.. You can only add to it, but no permanently. My wife is a Fox. (I'm an Owl and my oldest is a Beaver). It makes for some interesting nicknames when the whole family goes Bowling (haha). So I'll ask them what they've seen Foxes do to the program patrol token. I've seen a few courses, where they've added a faux Fox tail to the service and program token. Looking on Amazon website, it appears that you can pick up fake fox tail toys in some local pet stores. A set of beads, hung from two fox tails (or a rope with two fox tails instead of the wooden bea

Kittle, Other fellow forum members have asked a similar question. Not can a council, but can a unit release a scouts membership. As I understand.. Youth are primarily registered with a Pack/Troop. The unit is registered with the Council. My own interpretation. A Scout has to be involved in misbehavior of some type and some level (alcohol, drugs, bullying, harassment, fighting, sexual misconduct, etc). The unit after learning about the misbehavior would provide the details to the Council. The council would provide their recommendation back to the unit. Some may be gr