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At this point in time we have no intentions on splitting the pack, we will thin out some, but no matter what we have worked hard to have a strong pack and don't plan on handing half of it over. What I meant by the statement they don't "show well" is that there presenation of themselves comes across a little brash. The husband is unshaven most of the time, they don't iron their uniforms and only wear part of it (that is all they can afford), and they smell like cigerette smoke (they don't smoke around any of the boys though). Is it fair for us to tell these leaders who have worked har

Perhaps I was not clear. The boys father told his old pack did not use internet advancement and therefore his advancement would not be on ScoutNet. I don't know how the old council worked but the dad told me that he already tried to get the paperwork from the previous council and they don't have it. He should have a card for each activity pin and his rank right? I think I am going to ask if he has those and get copies of them. Of course this will mean that any partial badges will be lost but I guess that is the penalty for losing his book.

You can always tell when scouts start back up again because the problems just roll in with the boys. Our pack has grown significantly this year to 110-120 boys compared to around 60-70 last year. With that growth we are having to make multiple dens at each rank. Currently we have 2 (working on a third) Tiger dens, 2 Wolfs (possibly needing a third), 3 Bears, 2 Webelos 1's (need a third but probably won't happen), and are at the breaking point for 2 Webelos 2 dens. I am the WDL, also the ACM, and will end up being the CM when my Webelos 2's cross over in February. I say that so you

I have a transfer that just joined my Webelos 2 den, he moved here from out of state. His dad said they searched high and low but somehow in the move their book got lost. He asked me what kind of proof that his son achieved certain badges and achievements he needed to provide me with. His son has activity badge pins on his Webelos colors and his Webelos Badge on his uniform but other than that they have no way really prove what he has done. Of course he said the pack he came from was small and did not use internet advancement which would provide digital proof. My response to him wa

Obviously the ideal situation is to coordinate schedules to parents/boys don't have to choose. If you do have a den campout and a pack campout on the same date then parents with boys in other ages group will probably end up taking their boys to the pack, if that is even an issue. Realisticly and practically speaking, to me a den campout for Webelos is far better than a pack campout. They are more focused around the Webelos, what they want and are able to do and toward their advancement. It also allows the boys to bound more as a patrol and get them ready for Boy Scouts which is a WDL's go

John, Our COR is a paper figure only, we only see maybe once or twice a year. The only time he steps in is when there is a problem with the scouts and the facility. It is not our packs job to help another pack start up. I agree that if there are enough parents and boys to start a new pack that is closer for them then to do it. But for us to use our resources to help them do this, especially after they just flopped a few months ago is crazy. As far as the recruiting booth, we are not allowed on school property at this particular elementary. We have scouts and scouters in uniform

John, Our COR is a paper figure only, we only see maybe once or twice a year. The only time he steps in is when there is a problem with the scouts and the facility. It is not our packs job to help another pack start up. I agree that if there are enough parents and boys to start a new pack that is closer for them then to do it. But for us to use our resources to help them do this, especially after they just flopped a few months ago is crazy. As far as the recruiting booth, we are not allowed on school property at this particular elementary. We have scouts and scouters in uniform

We just recently had our Fall recruiting at our local elementary school. We are in a relatively small but growing town and have 2 elementaries (one that won't even let us in the doors, only pass out fliers to drivers during meet the teacher) and another elementary that we inherited in a town about 10-15 away because their pack folded last year. We are good sized pack (the biggest in our district and probably close to the biggest in our council) and had about 50-60 parent/child combos show up. I did the timeline of a boy and gave the speech that with a pack this size we need leaders not ju

ScoutNut, IMHO counting Webelos only camping toward summertime pack is cheating the system. Just because the pack promotes it, the entire pack is not able to attend. Since only Webelos can go it is a den or patrol activity despite who promotes it. Our pack promotes our Webelos Resisent camp but too but we would never try to count it as a pack activity. If the Bears are going to a climbing center to climb and it is mentioned a pack meeting to increase attendance is that a pack activity. No! It is den activity. If you are counting things the way you are then I am sure everyone in

A Pack event does not have be something that everyone attends, nor does it have be something that at least so many people from each rank attend, it should be something that at least all ranks have the oppurtunity to attend though. This was my original post. As I stated, I don't think everyone in the pack has to attend an event for it to count, nor should at least so many people from each rank have to attend for it to count. What really matters is that the event was open to everyone. Such as in our case, Webelos could attend the Resident Camp and no one else could. That is not right

I think many of you misunderstand what I was saying as far as counting Resident Camp as a summer Pack activity (except for SctDad). It is really not right to count something as a Pack event if not all the Pack is eligiable to attend. In our case resident camp is for Webelos only so to count that as Pack event even though multiple boys from our Pack went isn't right because Tigers, Wolves, and Bears could not attend. A Pack event does not have be something that everyone attends, nor does it have be something that at least so many people from each rank attend, it should be something that at

Although we haven't finished completely we have used Leather bracklets Baskets (acutally ended up being the hardest for the boys) Bamboo Windchimes Hot dog/marshmellow roasters (bent coat hangers with handle) for the non-wood projects. We also used pinewood derby cars for one of the wood projects and we haven't done the last wood project but the wood ones are usually easier.

Our Council told me the main reason why Webelos weren't allowed at Camporee was that the Boy Scouts where doing shootgun, rifle, and axe throwing which Cub Scouts are not allowed to do. Which made me feel a lot better about being told we couldn't go. As far as attending a Boy Scout campout, there have been no problems here. Our Boy Scouts only take the 2nd year Webelos so they don't have as many young boys to worry about and it helps give them more one on one time. Pack212Scouter, I believe you have misread the requirements for AOL. It states that a boy must attend at least one

SctDad, To be fair you shouldn't count Resident Camp as a Pack activity since not all can attend. Since your Tigers are not allowed to participate that really doesn't make it a Pack activity, where I am at it is considered a Council event not a Pack activity. They do this mainly because we don't camp as a Pack nor do we really spend anytime as a Pack. Struax, Once your boys cross over from Wolves to Bears then any activity they do (even during the summer) counts toward their Bear achievements.

Our district is the largest in our council. I am not sure exactly how many packs we have but at least 20. Several packs come to RT and are very involved with the training, no problem with support there. Others come when there is a big training they need, and others I have never heard of because they don't attend anything. I am hoping to either go to a Pack meeting for these hard to reach Packs or at least sit down with the CM and talk to them about what training really is and what we offer to help them and their leaders. Obviously I will push our 2 trainings a year, and the training at U