Jameson76

Yeah...pretty much is the case and that's OK. These families need to understand what the Scouting program is, but more importantly what it is not.

We had the Webelos visiting a meeting one time and our SPL asked if there were any adult announcements. The Webelos broke into the "Announcement Song"..the Scouts put a stop to that really quick and explained that was not how we rolled The Webelos were really good with that

So to be all technical. A 12 day trek runs sort of like this You arrive at Phillmont on DAY 1 (check-in, ranger assignment, shakedown, initial food, gear, opening campfire) You head for the Trail DAY 2 On Trail Days 2 - 12 Arrive back in Base Camp on Day 12 (check back in, turn in gear, shower, buy swag at Tooth of Time traders, shower again, by more stuff at TOT, closing campfire) Depart from Philmont on Day 13 10 nights on the trail and 2 nights in Base camp

Not to derail a thread, but isn't that sort of the reasoning (groups gone rogue) given as one of the reasons for the change to allow girls into the Cubs and Boy Scouts? Also the move toward family scouting emphasis "so many were doing it anyway, may as well make it official". That seems to be the way to effect change now, just go do it and likely rather than make waves it will be codified

Actually your comment is sadly likely well on point. The local council needs it's cut (Be that BSA or GSUSA)

Interesting We will tell you when and where you can collect funds citizen...and we will take our percentage off the top, and why aren't you selling cookies with all this spare time??

To be clear...it does snow at Woodruff, you just have to be there on the right weekend

For us Frozen Tundra is merely a Toyota not parked in the garage with some frost on it, once the sun hits, it's all good

We are in the south...so we go further south. This year to the beach and camping along the intercoastal in January. Also some backpacking in February and wide games in March. Of course it rarely gets below freezing for the whole day around here, maybe into the 20's at night but warmer during the day

Many of us crossed that bridge a while back.....helps while unpacking gear back at the house on Sundays

Possibly Bourbon may be a good example If it is produced in the USA, made from a grain mixture that is at least 51% corn, aged in new, charred oak containers, distilled to no more than 160 (U.S.) proof (80% alcohol by volume), entered into the barrel for aging at no more than 125 proof (62.5% alcohol by volume), bottled (like other whiskeys) at 80 proof or more (40% alcohol by volume) it can be called Bourbon. Do the same thing in Canada, guess it is called whiskey. It's all in the name though the product is or could be identical Also as this suit may drag on, the use of bourbon (or whiskey) may help many of us endure.

Admin question: what if a Scout who is 16 to 17, realized that they could not get Eagle due to the calendar and they did not recharter, but then rejoined Scouts after 2/2019. Would they be able to get the extension? Also any work they had done would be recognized? Very small population for this possibility and the machinations to get done could be problematic. Wonder how districts and councils may react to the possible gaming of the system?

All members of the EBOR should have been volunteers, or functioning in a volunteer capacity. Typically at least one is not with the unit You can look up the particulars by looking at the Guide to Advancement (PDF - Google BSA Guide to Advancement) Section 8.0.3.0 references Particulars for Eagle Scout Rank Section 8.0.4.0 Appealing the Decision

Quick question - For the EBOR typically this is made up of members from the troop and members from the District / Council. Curious who felt their own definition of "leadership" has not been met? The EBOR while not a review can look at and could bring up any factual errors that may have been missed prior (number of merit badges, dates in rank, age at time of completion). That is unlikely as the dates are reviewed by the council against the BSA system records prior to the EBOR Additionally the Eagle candidate had the project reviewed by the unit (SM and CC both signed off on proposal) and then the project was approved by the District or Council (depending on size). Any concerns with the leadership portion would have been brought up at that point. I would engage with the District Commissioner and the Council Commissioner for the appeal process and politely request that the Scouter (Scouters??) who questioned the leadership portion not be on the next EBOR.

First - lots of adult drama seems to be in play, but let's power through that Scouts are the best recruits for Scouts. The best way to get boys who are not involved is PROGRAM. Not advancement, not meetings, not citizenship, etc etc, it's PROGRAM. Get your 3 active scouts to clearly set a calendar of OUTDOOR PROGRAMMING. That is the selling point for other boys to engage, what will THEY be doing, what is in it for them. Go Do Stuff. Get the dates set and get a plan to go do things. Not sure where you are but that is what will get the boys to show up. Canoeing, kayaking. hiking, wide games, biking, etc etc. PROGRAM brings in Scouts. The other key items like advancement, citizenship, and leadership can be built once you get them engaged

BRO SCOUTS OF AMERICA..."it's all good"

A common misconception and good resolution. Had a scout talk with me recently that he wanted to complete cooking but he had missed the troop backpacking outing. Reminded him that the requirements did not specify the cooking had to be done with the troop, could be a patrol outing or he and some friends could be backpacking. Cooking is a life skill, going to be needing it 2 to 3 times a day for a long long time, in and out of Scouts.

Great. Now the capitalization police will be all over us.....

Maybe there will be a patch...

The International Scouts at the summer camps we attend have always been a positive. Our guys have met and talked with Scouts / had merit badge sessions with Scouts from Morroco, Egypt, Poland, England, China, Syria, Malaysia and many others I have cannot recall.

This is the official BSA pocket knife The hooked blade on the far right is fact the can opener Not a bad video on how this works on a can. Can take a while

This will be interesting. I foresee some additional training as part of some consent decree in our future Maybe a 30 page Powerpoint

Why the quest for efficiency? it can be done in under 2 years based on time in rank requirements. But as has and no doubt will be noted, Eagle Scout is not the goal. The rank is merely a stop along the scouting journey. If attaining the Eagle rank is all that matters, the Scout is missing the point Enjoy the trip and experiences along the way

Agree that too much focus on NS can be a killer. We run year round (Seabase / Philmont / 2 summer camps summer of 2019) and while we have activities, not formal meetings in the summer, basically June and July. But during those months we have pre-camp meetings and summer camps. Our planning runs August to July. The PLC meets in late April for planning the next 12 months of outings and general calendar. The PLC meets monthly for planning the next 4 weeks. For the new scouts we run a parallel program in the spring. New Scouts with their NS patrols, they do things, and have a specific NS outing. For that outing we have upped to adventure quotient to get older Scouts to come along. We also have a regular troop outing that month. None of our outings are advancement focused, that is a real attendance/interest killer

Scouts Unfazed Camping Kayaking Intending To Go Strongly Until Simply Amazed