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  1. Do I understand correctly that your CO is considering not rechartering your troop? https://www.scouter.com/topic/31928-chapter-11-announced/page/45/?tab=comments#comment-517955 If that happens, will your troop look for a different CO, or will they disband? If your troop looks for (and finds) a new CO, is your old CO happy for you to take your camping gear with you to the new CO? (I've heard of troops around here switching CO's.)
  2. I'm seeing a similar dynamic in our troop at present. Any good advice?
  3. @BAJ, maybe you already saw the post, but @5thGenTexan posted what his council is doing for managing covid risk while camping:
  4. A rule of thumb for girls: (I used this for Girl Scout badge sashes/vests). The mom can estimate the daughter's eventual size based on the mom's size. Girls will typically reach full height about the same age the mom did, by about age 13 or 14, but will continue to fill out a little width-size. So, as a mother, if you wear the same size you did as a college student, try on the sash, and pick the size that fits you for your daughter. If you are a little larger than when you were a college student, then consider sizing down for your daughter. If you are really petite and your husband is really tall, then consider sizing up for your daughter. Or maybe there is a female scout in the troop who is the size you were when you were a senior in high school -- find out what size sash that scout is wearing. If unsure, err or the side of too long rather than too short. You can always shorten it later.
  5. Some things we have done since our state and council permitted the troops to start camping again: 1) Prior resuming in-person activities the troop had a mandatory scout-and-parent-must-participate zoom presentation about the covid precautions being implemented. Not once per trip, but once per scout. I think it was helpful. At least the scouts are doing a much better job of social-distancing at scout events that the church-youth-group kids are doing at church events. 2) No carpooling to or from camping trips. Parents must drive their own kids to the camp location. 3) Every scout has her own tent - no scout shares a tent with anyone (unless she has a sister in the troop with whom to share). 4) Every scout brings her own food and backpacking stove. (Again siblings can share.) And of course the scouts go through oodles of handsanitzer. . . While I am glad that the scouts are doing in-person activities together, and are able to interact with each other in-person, albeit at a 6-foot distance, it is simply not quite the same as normal: I keenly feel the lack of patrol team effort in (say) food prep -- it is more every-man-for-himself (or rather every-girl-for-herself). My daughter, at least, misses being able to share a tent with a couple of buddies. These are girls that I am talking about. Also this year is looking to be a very expensive year for a new scout to join scouting. Not only are there the increased dues and the BSA-new-scout-joining-fee on top of the needed hiking boots, raingear, sleeping bag, and backpack. But now the new scouts also need to buy their own tent and stove right off the bat. (No, none of our scouts was ever registered as cub scouts.) But it is still a LOT better than no camping. And the scouts have been able to do biking, backpacking, orienteering, etc. About 80% of our scouts have done at least one in-person meeting or activity with the troop since we resumed in-person activities. More than half have gone on at least one camping trip.
  6. My take: Yes it is worthwhile, even if you don't fully complete your ticket. The "like minded Scouters" and "enthusiam for Scouting" part was very worthwhile to me. I found it very encouraging to be among other people who were enthusiastic about the program. And who were aiming at the goals of scouting "Citizenship, Character, . . ." with confidence in the methods of scoutings ("Patrol Method, Ideals, etc, etc") as a means to get there. This was especially true for me, since it seemed that in my own unit (and in the boys' troop linked with my unit) the adults have been all pulling in different directions. Some are interested in being an outing club in which kids get to do exciting things which someone else lines up for them to do. Some are interested in low drag high speed advancement . . . I am no longer in the role I was in when I attended woodbadge. And I only completed some but not all of my ticket items - which were chosen to be appropriate to that role. So I don't know if I'll be able to complete a ticket. But I am still very glad I attended woodbadge.
  7. GSUSA has shown no interest in co-ed. At least they have been stressing the benefits of a girl-only environment.
  8. They sold they closest in-council camp to where I live. And I don't think that was the only camp sold nationally.
  9. GSUSA has used a lot of different greens. Really bright greens since around 1980. Prior to that forest green (1960's, 1970's) and a lighter grey green (back to at least the 1940's). (This is by memory, I'm not checking dates.) Earlier on they had a very brownish/tannish/olivish color. (See https://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-1930s-Complete-Girl-Scout-Uniform-Dress-Hankie-Belt-Knife-Badges-Book/184410370576?hash=item2aefb6f210:g:YlwAAOSwAhtfPaAU) But I've never seen any girl scout uniforms that match the current BSA olive green. And now GSUSA is making pants in a color that look very Boy Scout. It was startling. Especially if paired with a tan badge vest - which is not far from the color of a BSA shirt. Very startling. (Was it deliberate? Or were they oblivious?) On the other hand, describng this as a "uniform" goes too far. The GSUSA website calls the set of new items for sale "the new Cadette, Senior, Ambassador uniforms and official apparel collection" and the olive stuff does not appear in the "uniform" section of the shop https://www.girlscoutshop.com/GIRLS/UNIFORMS
  10. All of our girls were either friends of girls already in the group, or else were "connected to scouts" in some way. That "some way" might be that a relative in a different state was in scouting. Or perhaps a mother had been a Girl Guide in a different country, or been in GSUSA. Or perhaps the father had been a Boy Scout in a different country. Or the grandfather had been a scout. That is, many of these families already had a positive impression of the scout movement. Don't assume that families need a current connection to BSA, or even that the father needs to have been in BSA, for the family to think that scouting is generally a positive activity for children. What such families to need is to realize that your troop (or proto-troop) exists. Once we got a web presence we ending up collecting several girls from an adjacent school district (not in our council's borders) because they were able to find us on the web.
  11. I should have been clearer. The initial drivers of the process were two girls (from different families) who wanted to be scouts. These two girls then recruited their parents. Then these two families (the "we") looked for more interested girls/families. We had a group of almost ten girls/families before we had a C.O. picked out.
  12. To get our troop for girls started, first we looked for the kids. If there weren't enough interested girls, then there would really not have been much point in pressing on. Actually, first, my family talked to the several Boy Scout troops in our town, inquiring about whether a girls troop was forming up - and there was not at that point. Another family talked to a Boy Scout troop in a neighboring town. The Boy Scout troops put the two famiilies in contact, and both families started recruiting girls. The want-to-be-scouts talked to their friends. The parents talked to their friends who had girls in the 4th-8th grade age range. . . . The boy scout troops helped (at our request) by letting all their families know that a few folk wanted to get a girls' troop started - in case any scouts' sisters wanted to joing scouting. Only once it looked like there was going to be critical mass of girls, did things really start moving forward . . . But @5thGenTexan, we are in a school district about three times the size of your town, so that helped.
  13. Note to moderators: this is in the wrong category. Scouts BSA for girls is not "Girl Scouting"
  14. A few statistics from our female troop: 56% of the scouts came because a friend or a sister was already in the troop (or proto-troop) and the scout invited them (or the scout's parents invited the prospective scout's parents) 11% came because a brother or cousin in a boy's troop was enthusiastic about scouting. 18% found us through the web (beascout or the troop's own website) The remaining scouts were part of the initial organizing group that started talking up the idea of a girls troop in town. It wasn't specific recruting materials that brought in each new scout. It was the enthusiasm of a current scout.
  15. Thanks @SteveMM I appreciate hearing your experience with a leadership project related to a POR. And @Eagledad, thank you for overview of the development of leadership skills through using the patrol heirarchy. And thanks @DuctTapefor your examples of good use of leadership projects. I really appreciate being able to ask questions here and learn from y'all's experience. It's better to ask a crazy question here, first, and get reactions from experienced people, than to bring up the question first in the troop.
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