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  1. Treflienne

    Bamboo scout staves?

    I took a few scout staves (the standard scout-shop kind) on a camping trip and the scouts had fun with them: used them to haul their gear, used them as poles for their dining fly, actually carried them hiking . . . Now at least one of the scouts is saying that we should give a scout staff to every new scout joining the troop. Thing is, those scout-shop staffs seems rather heavy. Has anyone tried using bamboo poles for scout staves (including using for dining fly poles)? They have the merit of being lightweight, inexpensive, and readily available: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MPXVSHO/
  2. I agree that they would probably get more out of the course if they were older. But my troop just elected a 13-year-old PL as the top youth leader in the one patrol troop (and she is, I think, the best choice they could have made) and she appointed a 13-year-old QM to help her who again I think was a good choice. From my troop's point of view, I would rather they get the NYLT training this summer, instead of waiting until next year. (And once 2020 rolls around they would have to be first class, and I am not encouraging a race to first class in a year.) Why do we not have older scouts in top leadership positions? Because the couple of 14-year-olds we have are terribly shy, and one is not fluent in English yet. Is this typically allowed? Is this encouraged? I would probably learn a lot if I could observe the course.
  3. Apparently there is a further change to age requirements as of 1 March. According to https://www.scouting.org/programs/scouts-bsa/resources/nylt/ This is very good news for my troop, as our top youth leaders are 13-year-olds.
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    A tale of two scouts

    I agree. It's not nearly so hard for her to say "Have you checked the duty roster?" as it is for her to say "Please do X". If the other scouts are good-natured about helping when needed, but simply not paying attention to when they need to do something, the PL making and posting a duty roster that fairly distributes the jobs might help.
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    Adult led and youth led

    Not quite the question you are asking -- but one benefit to a kid of seeking out a troop is to find that patrol of kids with common interests -- if he hasn't already found one on his own.
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    How to increase usage of Patrol Method

    Our new troop, after a short initial term of office for its first PL, just held an election for the new PL to take over beginning of the summer. Any scout who wanted to could put her name in as a candidate (no minimum rank requirments or any such thing). Then the troop (a single patrol) voted on who they wanted. I in no way tried to influence their choice of which scout was appropriate for the job. (Though I did use a preceeding week's scoutmaster minute to emphasize the importance of servant leadership.) Interesting to me was that the scouts who put their names forward as candidates were all scouts that I felt would be good candidates. And the scouts elected the girl that I personally thought was most ready to be Patrol Leader. This is just to say that if you let the scouts vote for their own leaders, they may very well make an extremely sensible choice.
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    How to increase usage of Patrol Method

    The troop leader guidebook (p 37) talks about the regular monthly PLC meeting. Also about "Patrol Leaders' Council Huddles" before each meeting and a brief PLC meeting at the end of each troop meeting. Our small new one-patrol troop has been holding an all-interested-troop-members-invited "PLC" meeting once a month for the scouts to plan the upcoming activities. Typically about half the scouts in the troop (including the PL/APL) attend. We have not been having the brief PLC meeting at the end of each troop meeting. However I am starting to feel that something of the sort is needed -- that is, remote means of communication (email, phone) between troop meetings are not quite enough. So, in your experience, especially in your small-troop experience: do you do these post-troop-meeting huddles? Whose attendance is critical? Whose attendance is optional?
  8. So that is a 3-lead 4-bight turk's head in leather (with each strand doubled). https://www.scoutshop.org/wood-badge-woggle-neckerchief-slide-2173.html But would a different turk's head knot (say 4-lead 5-bight ) be okay for scouts? in leather? in paracord? only if it is a color that looks very different from brown leather?
  9. I've got a scout who would like to talk her troop-mates into making turks-head woggles (and custom square larger neckechiefs) once they have a chance to get around to the issue of neckerchiefs. Are there some restrictions on what is allowed for scouts? (Like no leather or brown-leather-look-paracord?)
  10. After hearing what meals the girls had planned for our first overnight, the other mom and I decided to ask if they would be willing to cook enough so that we adults could eat as their guests rather than us two cooking separately. (If we had cooked for ourselves, we would not have put in as much effort and would not have eaten as well.) Of course, a couple of our girls already had a good bit of camp cooking experience, and a number had cooking-at-home experience.
  11. I'm glad that BSA is not mixing genders, because that would take away the leverage to force the girls to do what they don't naturally like to do. I guess it's the same with boys, but I don't have as much experience there. Also, sometimes girls will be hesitant about trying things, because they don't have the confidence that they are good at them (because indeed they are not good at them yet). If there are no over-confident boys around to jump in and do it first, then the girls realize that they need to step up and try -- which give them a chance to develop competence and the confidence that comes with competence.
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    Webelos AOL & Crossover

    First off, the more traditional approach is by birthday -- though the age used to be 12, not 11. And the promoting-by-age is not an LDS-only exception. The brand new Scouts BSA Handbook for Girls says, on the inside front cover Our troop knows of one girl (not a cub scout) planning to join as soon as she turns 11. Oddly enough, her mother was not aware of the age-instead-of-AOL grounds for joining scouts, even though the girl has two brothers who have gone through cub scouts.
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    Pioneering Campout

    when/where did BSA say things like this? and does BSA still say something like this?
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    Pioneering Campout

    It's not quite pioneering, but might fit with a pioneering themed campout: scouts make their dining fly using four scout staves, a poly tarp borrowed from someone's garage, some spare tent stakes, and some rope. Good practise on lashing and knots. (Two scout staves are lashed together with sheer lashing to make the front pole, similar for rear pole.) https://scoutmastercg.com/philmont-dining-fly-tarp/ Also fitting with a pioneering theme: no propane. Only cook over wood.
  15. Not so hard: 3 camping overnights, 3 local day hikes, and four other things: (help with scout recruiting night? do ILST? help with the spring cleanup at the CO? one more? ) And while the girl reaching 1st class has to do all of them, its not required to pick a day when the entire troop can go. Get half or more of your patrol and two willing adults (different ones for different activities) and you are all set. One overnight and two other Saturday mornings per month.