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    Scout mom since 2001 / Currently Pack Committee Member

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  1. Is there any alternative to Scoutbook for doing this? I'm facing the likelihood of becoming the Advancement Coordinator for our new Troop, but Scoutbook is so badly broken it's unusable. I've gone back to the usscout spreadsheet for my Webelos Scouts because I can't enter any data at all in Scoutbook, either the website or the mobile app. I can't find a similar downloadable spreadsheet for Scouts BSA. Is there one?
  2. We love it, actually! My husband convinced me to get the 10-person one. It's too heavy for hauling very far, so we accepted the provided canvas-on-wood-frame tent at Cub camp this weekend, but we really enjoyed the roominess on a family campout with the Pack.
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    Council denies unit fundraiser

    Fundraising is how they pay their own way. Or is a 12 year old supposed to go out and get a "real" job? Or is Scouting only supposed to be available to Scouts who get a big enough allowance from their parents? Units DO need operating funds. They need money to buy patches, awards, flags, and other Troop assets. It shouldn't be a whole ton of money (depending on your perspective on how much money is a lot of money), but it still isn't free. Are the volunteers supposed to pay for everything out of their own pockets?
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    How do camps accommodate girl troops?

    I'm in my 40s and I have NEVER, even as a small child, been comfortable with group shower areas. I try not to project my creepy factor onto my kids when they hose off after swimming. They keep their swimsuits on during shower (I honestly want the chlorine rinsed out of their swimsuits as much as I want it rinsed out of their hair) but I find it really creepy that adult naked women will stand in the shower and talk to my kids. I applaud the move to single-stall showers. It doesn't cost that much to put up barriers and shower curtains. Yes, cleaning takes longer, but I bet Scouts will be more than willing to take up the extra cleaning duty as a fair exchange for privacy in the shower.
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    Summertime Pack Award

    So... this month, our Pack went to Day Camp the first week in July. Our family was on vacation out of state that week. So my daughter attended Day Camp the 2nd week in July in a neighboring District, without her Pack. Since she did participate in a major Cub Scout activity in July, even though she didn't participate WITH her Pack, who also did participate in the activity, just at a different time, does she qualify for the Summertime Pack Award (she attended the June event and will attend two events in August). This is a relatively big question for me since we anticipate our allotted week at our vacation cabin to ALWAYS interfere with our District's Day Camp dates. I'm actually pondering enrolling my next Cub in a Pack in a neighboring District when she's old enough, just so she will be able to attend Day Camp with her Pack.
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    Council denies unit fundraiser

    Our brand new unit had a fundraising opportunity dropped on it at the last minute. We currently have no operating funds and the Committee members are floating Troop expenses until we can figure it out. So when someone pointed out that we were supposed to submit an application to the Council before doing any fundraising, we all kind of looked at each other, shrugged, and decided it was better in this case to ask forgiveness than to ask permission. Because "It's Tuesday and there's no way we can get the application submitted and approved in time for Friday" was just a reality. We know it's fairly common for units in our area to do fundraising without filling out the "required" paperwork, and we know the Council really wants us to succeed, so hopefully we'll get by with a post-fundraiser application and get told to try not to do that again. If we run into problems with Council being too strict with fundraising I think we might try the CO fundraiser route (out of uniform), if our CO will approve, which I imagine they would as long as it doesn't create some kind of conflict with them; but I don't anticipate that being an issue as long as we are also active in the Council fundraisers which happen twice a year (and thankfully don't include Popcorn). From what I can see, the Council is generally supportive of independent unit fundraising efforts.
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    Eagle Scout Shown Leniency

    I don’t know. Maybe? It seems like I might be more inclined to grant leniency to someone who did not have the advantages of a good family and Scouting to teach right from wrong I guess. But I certainly wouldn’t give it to someone who had every opportunity to learn tight from wrong.
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    Eagle Scout Shown Leniency

    If anything, having gone through all it takes to become an Eagle Scout, he should have known better even moreso than other boys his age. I would be more inclined to hold him MORE accountable, not less.
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    Uniforms for Committee Members

    Do you have a link to the specific Velcro or Velcro-like product you use from Home Depot? All I can find are sticky squares or straps.
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    First New Troop Adult Meeting

    We have 3 girls signed up with our new Troop, with one more who says she wants to join but who hasn't turned in her application. All 3 girls we have signed up have parent leaders involved. The 4th probably won't have a parent leader but at least she is an actively involved parent in general judging from mom's willingness to show up at Pack stuff for yer younger daughter. We also have two more families (mine included) with leaders in the Troop who have Webelos rank girls who will be joining in the next 6-18 months. So right now we have twice as many adult leaders with applications turned in as we have Scouts (and more who are just dragging their feet to do YPT). I consider that a GREAT thing and I'm really glad we have it. I don't expect that 2 to 1 ratio to continue as the Troop grows but it makes me feel good about having "room" to accept more youth without being desperate for all their parents to sign up right away. Although we won't be the first Ladies' Troop in our district, the other one keeps to themselves and has zero interest in recruiting. So to be 100% honest I expect at least 90% of the girls in our community who earn their Arrow of Lights in the next year and who make the choice to go to a Troop to be joining our Troop. This is going to be a main focus for our team, to make sure we have lots of outreach and invite those Webelos girls to join us for activities. 3 girls is enough if that's all we have for the next 6-9 months until the Crossover ceremonies begin. I think we'll be able to support at least two patrols by this time next year. Don't worry about low numbers to start. It's hard to get members to join you when you don't have anything to join yet. Build it and invite people to come.
  11. I hadn't thought about double-fold bias tape. That would look sharp! I have noticed that broadcloth is super cheap, and I had looked at piping too. I have both a regular sewing machine and a serger so I could do a serged edge in a contrasting color as well. The girls have a lot of options! I'd like them to at least pick one quickly (even if they change their minds later) so we can have a few made up right away since our CO is making a *big deal* out of the charter signing ceremony and we expect to have photos in their national magazine. I spent last night making paracord woggles for all the adult leaders in our Troop. The girls can make their own if they want something similar. Maybe I'll bring a bunch of paracord lengths to the meeting tonight along with a couple links to YouTube tutorials in case they want to do that.
  12. Our girls are meeting for the first time Monday. They'll be choosing a SPL and talking about uniform details. One of the parents in our troop has an embroidery machine and is willing to help with neckerchiefs. I have sufficient sewing skills to make neckerchiefs for her to embroider. So I'd like to present the girls with several ideas for them to look at to inspire them as they decide what their neckerchiefs they want (assuming they want to use them, which I think they will but I suppose they could decide to do without entirely). I'll also bring photos of some of the "in stock" type neckers they can buy at the Scout Shop. I'd love to see what some of you have done, especially ones that might be incorporating your CO's name on the neckerchief or whatever other interesting ideas are out there.
  13. Liz

    First New Troop Adult Meeting

    Because we have to have a troop number on our paperwork to turn in, and the 4 girls haven't met yet. It's just a matter of practicality.
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    First New Troop Adult Meeting

    It's the same in our Council. All the girl troops are 4 digits starting with a 4. We will only be using 3 digits on our uniform though, mainly because we couldn't really think of any meaningful numbers that were 4 digits beginning with 4. I think just from what I've seen all the packs in our council start with 0, boy troops 1, and venturing crews 2. I will make a wild guess that either sea scouts or explorers start with a 3. But only the venturing crews actually use all 4 digits on their uniforms.
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    Yup. District patches are not authorized by National except as temporary patches. That doesn't mean that all Councils follow this rule. Some use a District patch as a routine and expected part of every uniform, in spite of National's uniform policy. My Council uses a 2nd Council patch on the right front pocket, around which participation segments are attached. That's not in line with the National uniform policy either. IMO, if that kind of patch is going to be used at all, it makes more sense to be a District patch, as a Council patch there is redundant with the Shoulder patch. My heart wouldn't break if nothing were used there at all (and I don't have one on my uniform but everyone else does...) but when you ever whisper that it's not how the uniform is supposed to look people act like you're trying to kill Scouting...