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    Scout mom since 2001 / Currently Pack Committee Chair and Troop Committee Member

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  1. We have the National Camp-In streaming to the TV today. I've noticed everyone wearing a necker is using the friendship knot. They also had a brief tutorial for how to tie the friendship knot in your neckerchief. I don't have an opinion on this. It's just interesting to see.
  2. Class B is just a 3rd party vendor. Nothing they produce is official. I suspect they hold licenses to use BSA logos that your local vendor might not have, but I don't have any inside knowledge on that part. Other than the possibility that Class B might have permission to use certain trademarked images which may not be as readily available to you for home-embroidery, there is no difference. An activity shirt is an activity shirt. Other than general "appropriate clothing" guidelines, there are no rules governing your unit's chosen activity uniform, if they even have one at all. The unit my older kids were involved in never did have an activity uniform. Any Scouting related shirt at all was considered an appropriate activity uniform. So the kids would go to camp and buy previous years' camp t-shirts at a huge discount, just a few bucks a piece, and that was their "uniform" when not wearing a Class A. Nobody ever tried to coordinate everyone wearing the same shirt at once. Does it say Boy Scouts on it somewhere? It counts. A Scout is Thrifty.
  3. Can you talk to the Scouts directly before their MB is completed and they turn in the card? How do you know that these Scouts didn't set up the photos using a tripod and a remote shutter?
  4. That pair is actually slightly different, but it might have the same cut. Those have the pockets off to the sides, whearas the pair she likes so much has the pockets right on the front of the thighs. I bought the ones she has now on eBay, just bought another pair in a size up, and am watching a couple more size 12s.
  5. Thanks! I'll pay shipping if you have them in youth 12 or 14. LOL! They fit her PERFECTLY. Most girls her age don't have that hourglass shape that she was born with. Everything is either too snug in the hips, causing it to ride down and show crack, or too loose in the waist, causing the same problem, and 90% of girls pants are low-rise, making it even worse. These ones fit her comfortably and are very flattering. She just looks so sharp in her uniform!! -Elizabeth
  6. My daughter has a pair of vintage BSA uniform pants like these ones. They are a youth size 12. They fit her better than literally any other pants she has ever owned. She has always been a bit curvy in the hips (even as a toddler) even though she is slim everywhere else, and getting pants that keep her booty covered has always been difficult. I'm looking at the new girls' pants with the roll up cuffs, and I think she'd really like those but I wonder how they would fit. She likes these pants and I'm getting her an extra pair on eBay so she doesn't need to save them for uniform wear. Does anybody who is familiar with the fit on these pants know how it compares to the same size in the girls' capris that are available now? What about other available styles of pants (current or retired)? Our scout shop is of course shut down so I can't take her down to try them on. She has outgrown all her long pants during the shutdown except these, and she's a little hard to fit so I'm kind of stuck. Can't take her shopping as all the shops are closed, and can't easily order pants online unless I know ahead of time how the fit will be. I wish I could find the same style in cub scout blue. They'd go with more of her regular clothes.
  7. Zoombombing is a good enough reason for me. An adult monitoring can't prevent it, but they can immediately deal with it. I "sat in" on our kids' troop meeting this week. I put myself on mute and turned up the audio where I could hear it and had dinner with my family while casually listening to the girls discuss cooking requirements for rank. It wasn't a big deal. There were a couple other adults there too, and I wasn't the one in charge of hosting, so I wasn't the one watching for hackers. A little adult oversight doesn't hurt anything, and has the potential to help a lot if "something" happens.
  8. That is super helpful, Barry, thanks. My daughter is in 4th grade. Her Pack only has 1 Webelos Scout ready to cross over soon, but for the 4th graders there are several; including two other girls aside from my daughter. I'm really hoping our place in the Pack will really help. This fall my youngest daughter joins the pack too, so we'll have an in with this one Pack for years to come. The Webelos den leaders are looking to me for guidance already because they are both very green and I have been a den leader for a while now (although I'm not currently in that role in the new Pack). I think getting the girls to go sign up as den chiefs will really help. Some of them have already expressed an interest in this. I know with my son, he ended up following his Den Chief pretty much everywhere he went - to his Troop, the OA, whatever - for the rest of his Scouting years.
  9. Well, I happen to know the leadership of the other Troop as we had the experience of being in a Pack with them earlier and determining then that there was zero chance I ever wanted my child to be in a Troop that had those leaders. I was willing to stick it out for the Cub Scout years until they ran off our Cubmaster and, actually, all the other kids in the Pack except their own child. We jumped ship when everyone else did. Which is also a main reason why we have two Troops in our city instead of just the one. They have visited our Troop. They appeared to have a really fun time. Our girls enthusiastically welcomed them, played games with them, and involved them in their activities. But the parents later tell us they picked the other Troop. No idea why, really. The other Troop has more experienced Scouts in that the older girls have been in Girl Scouts together since they were little. They are all working on their GSA and BSA requirements together. So I have no doubt that their kids are proceeding in their "Trail to Eagle" faster than ours are. If an Eagle Factory is what you want out of a Troop, yes, the other Troop is probably a better fit. Maybe that really is what these Webelos girls are looking for. We are really working on that. But there aren't a lot of Webelos / AOL girls in our city to pull from. Our girls have a plan that goes through this Fall, and the next yearly planning meeting scheduled for June. We are actually not doing too badly in terms of recruiting NEW Scouts. We started with 3 girls signing on with the charter in July and we are up to 9. But the only Webelos girls we've been able to attract are either our own children or the younger relatives of other girls in our Troop. I think what's going on is that our girls look, and are, still new to Scouting for the most part. The other Troop is linked to a long-established Boy Troop, and as I mentioned earlier, the older girls in the Troop are experienced Girl Scouts who have been together for years. We can't really pretend to be something we're not. The question is how to convey to the families that what we have to offer is worthwhile even if it isn't as flashy as theirs. I love this idea. You are right. We should put together a written calendar to give to all visitors to the Troop so they can see what's coming up. I also love the hand-written card idea for visitors. Our Webelos aren't going to be in the same schools with our Scouts, or riding the same buses. They come from all over town and Middle School here starts in 6th grade.
  10. Are people generally finding these available through the local Scout Shop now? When my daughter earned Protect Yourself that was awarded last Fall, her Cubmaster mentioned he had to special order it, but I don't recall whether it was through the local shop or online. She has now finished the Yo-Yo adventure. Paying shipping from the online store doesn't seem very thrifty when we live so near the Council Office. But I'd like to be able to advise the other adult leaders in our new Pack correctly on the procedure.
  11. Our Council made it very clear in a letter sent out today that their assets are entirely separate from National. I suppose any Council could also be named in a suit, but each Council is its own legal and financial entity, and not financially responsible for the actions of Scouters in other councils.
  12. I'm so frustrated right now. There are only two female Troops in our city. Most of the Webelos girls are choosing the other one. I suspect they have a more put-together look and feel compared to our Troop, as theirs is entirely adult-run and ours is run by a bunch of novice Scouts who have not been at this Scouting thing very long. We have a great group of girls, but they are learning as they go and, within reason, we let them make a fair number of mistakes along the way (and they are doing AWESOME at learning and doing better each time). I'm very happy with our Troop and I'm excited to cross my own daughter over into it next year. But in the meantime, I am at a loss as to how to adequately convey the value of a youth-run Troop over a possibly sleeker, more well-oiled adult-run Troop. Ideas?
  13. Well, although I want my daughter carrying her (currently Webelos) handbook with her to events where she might need it, I don't want her carrying it around everywhere. It's already falling apart. The back cover is ripped halfway off and there's at least one page in the middle that's missing entirely. I am buying her a book cover that's designed/marketed as a Bible cover. She picked something in purple, but there's a really nice one on Amazon that looks like a pair of boy scout pants - has pockets in front and even a compass attached to it. Almost all the reviews on it are from people who are successfully using it as Scouts BSA handbook covers. I'm sore about the going to only spiral bound books. I'm crossing my fingers and hoping that in the next year before my daughter crosses over that they'll bring back the hardback as an option.
  14. Yes, it is by council. There are “common” leading digit conventions but there will always be variations.
  15. That's how ours is, and we are required to have 4 digits, starting with 4. The District rep wasn't very happy when our committee chose troop number 422 (4/22, Earth Day) and chose not to put the leading 4 on our uniforms or public facing materials. As committee secretary I've started marking the minutes and other internal documents as Troop (4)442. None of the boy troops have to put 4-number numerals on their uniforms (they all start with the number 1 I think; packs start with 0, crews start with 2, and I think Explorer posts are 3)so I don't see why we have to do it. Only the crews actually use all 4 numbers on their uniforms. No idea why they do that. It's annoying and creates confusion, but we honestly couldn't think of any good 4 digit numbers starting with 4 that would have any meaning to our unit.
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