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  1. 69RoadRunner

    Sea Base Staffer Arrested on Drug Charges

    Yeah, when a staffer is having conversations with the fish, you need to be worried.
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    BSA amends female adult required with female youth

    At summer camp last year, there was a troop of all boys with just 2 female adult leaders. I have no problem with that, but saying 2 adult male leaders for a group with 1 or more girls is gender bias. Having different rules for men and women seems like something that will result in legal challenges.
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    The Frugal Camp Menu

    The cheesecake was tough because it needs to be cold enough out to firm up. But, when it's that cold, it's tough to mix, so I had to warm everything up. It was pretty good. It's a time balance thing. We want them to cook and they do. They also have other activities that are important. The cooking is only part of it. The cleanup is time consuming, too. There are only so many hours in a day.
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    The Frugal Camp Menu

    Our patrols cook Saturday breakfast and dinner. Lunch is usually something no-cook like sandwiches. If they cooked lunch, too, that would be about all we did all day. But they plan it and their grubmaster gets it. Sunday morning is usually a no-cook breakfast. But again, the patrols decide what that is and their grubmaster gets it. This past trip, there were 2 makeshift patrols and a shared grubmaster. He got unfrosted Pop Tarts and will probably never hear the end of that as long as he's in scouts. 🤣 We have our Iron Chef competition coming up in November and cooking is 90% of that weekend. They enjoy it. The adults cook lunch and we try to go all out to show them things that they could do, plus WE enjoy it. I did a s'mores cheesecake in a dutch oven. I've done chicken thighs with a pomegranate sauce, too. I'm working on ideas for this year. On our regular activities, the adults are a separate patrol and we eat well.
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    The Frugal Camp Menu

    This is fine as an exercise and training for life in college. 😄 Many, but not all of our scouts, if left unchallenged, would lean toward cheap and easy meals. We tell our patrol leaders to go beyond hot dogs and spaghetti. It doesn't have to be gourmet every time, but last campout, they made sauteed pierogies, kielbasa and onions and green beans. They did a nice job.
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    Which Northern Tier Base Camp and Best Time to Go

    Well, to be fair, there are high quality synthetic sleeping bags today. There are also cheap sporting goods store garbage. I personally prefer synthetic and merino wool underwear for everyday use. I think referring to modern polyester fabrics as plastic is inaccurate, but to each his own.
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    Ten "Essentials" for the urban hike...

    I have a bit of a different take. I would say pack the 10 essentials for all trips, unless, as others have said, you're going to a place where a knife or fire starter is prohibited. The reasoning I use is it gets you in the habit of having these things handy. Most, if not all, can stay in your day pack. I'm a counselor for the Hiking merit badge. I do expect the scouts to explain, beyond the 10 essentials, what is needed for a specific hike. If it's hot and water sources aren't plentiful, do you have enough water capacity? What clothing layers and footwear is appropriate? How much food? When my son did it, we did our 20 mile hike into Washington, DC on the Mount Vernon trail. He planned a stop for lunch at a burger place, so we needed to pack money. It was summer so we filled our water bladders with ice water at lunch. We knew we weren't going into any federal building, so a knife and matches were not an issue. A poncho was adequate shelter for that trip. We knew we wouldn't need it., but it's in the day pack. For colder weather, bug spray isn't needed, but it's just kept in the day pack. Sunscreen might not be needed if your're wearing clothing that covers the skin but it's in the day pack. It's important to communicate to the scout that you understand that these items might not be needed for a specific hike, but being in the habit of always having them in your day pack makes it less likely that the item will ever be forgotten. Plus, you simply don't know and these items are light enough. My 2 cents.
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    Which Northern Tier Base Camp and Best Time to Go

    That's what I need to find out from those interested in going. We have some who like fishing and others don't hate it, but it's not a priority for them. Moose viewing sounds great! Being able to choose your adventure has a great deal of appeal, too. We did Sea Base 2 years ago on one of the big sailboats with 20 people. This year we did Philmont. We're late organizing, but they want to do the Triple Crown with NT next year. I just looked at the packing list. How strict are they on synthetic sleeping bags instead of down? I get that there's extra concern about the bag getting wet, but I'd rather use a treated down bag I already own rather than buy another synthetic bag.
  9. The NT web site doesn't give a great deal of information on the 3 options, although they do make it clear that Bissett is extremely challenging. From the description there, I suspect Bissett would not be appropriate for the crew we'd likely take. I'd like to know more than what NT provides to help our crew make a decision on whether Ely, Atikokan or Bissett is the best choice. We'll have a range of physical abilities. We just did Philmont with a very young crew and although we did a lower mileage trek, they did it. Also, when is the best time to go? I know the black fly is the state bird in that area, but when are they less horrible and how about the weather? I know people use private outfitters, but the troop has decided on BSA. I asked a few NT questions in the past and have gone through those again, but any further advice is appreciated.
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    Philmont Gear Review

    Depends on the tent. My son's Duomid weighs 35 ounces, which is less than half a Philtent and sleeps 2. He left the inner attached, so he carried the whole thing and his tentmate carried more of their food to make it even. There are many 1 person tents that weigh even less. https://www.tarptent.com/product/protrail/#tab-id-2 https://www.sixmoondesigns.com/collections/tents/products/lunar-solo
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    BSA designates Philmont as a "No Adventure Base"

    We did a trek this summer. We saw some families at Ponil and later noticed the tents across the street from base camp. It's a separate program from the treks, not replacing the treks. It appears to be an attempt to get younger kids interested in the BSA program. I have disagreements with some of the things BSA has done, but this isn't a hill to die on.
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    Philmont Gear Review

    While I do understand Philmont's reasons for not allowing hammocks, it would be a way to not have to sleep right next to a stinky tentmate. 😴 If you had a crew of 12 all in hammocks, there are some Philmont campsites where you'd struggle to find 12 hammock spots.
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    Philmont Gear Review

    We've had 0 my entire time with the troop. It might be a peer pressure kind of thing. Hey, all the cool kids are doing it. I can rest in a hammock but can't sleep in one. SYOS (Sleep Your Own Sleep)
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    Philmont Gear Review

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    Philmont Gear Review

    The odorproof bags are, unfortunately, not odorproof to bears. The Opsacks have a poor reputation for durability, too.