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  1. 69RoadRunner

    BACKPACKING: Dinner

    Wal Mart around here has it near the baby food. Scouts are basically raccoons or squirrels that will eat anything left out. 😀
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    BACKPACKING: Breakfast

    "No self-respecting southerner eats instant grits." -My Cousin Vinny 😀
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    BACKPACKING: Dinner

    I might have to get the digital version of this book. It certainly sounds like several steps up from your usual backpacking fare. https://backpackinglight.com/book-review-ultralight-recipes-for-outdoor-explorers/
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    Tell me about backpacks.

    Finally, we're getting these Fozzils Bowlz as crew gear. Light, cheap and they unsnap to be flat. Choose your gear well, leave unnecessary stuff at home and you'll have a better time carrying a lighter pack.
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    Tell me about backpacks.

    Sleeping System Bag Philmont suggests using a 20 degree bag. Depending on how cold your scout sleeps, 20-30 degree bags should work well. Down bags are lightest and compress the most. They are more expensive, but with care, last longer than synthetic. A down bag must be kept as dry as possible, even more so than a synthetic bag. Ideally, the sleeping bag should be less than 3 pounds. Shop the sales, but the Kelty Cosmic Down bag is a good price for down. https://www.rei.com/product/896029/kelty-cosmic-down-20-sleeping-bag-mens Outdoor Vitals has good prices on down sleeping bags. I bought one for Jason when they had a big sale. Outdoor Vitals bag Dry Bag A dry bag that easily fits the sleeping bag is a must. Sleeping Pad Many pads come in 20” wide and 25” wide sizes, in addition to multiple lengths. Due to the limited floor space of two person tents and small size of scouts, the pad should be 20” wide. Backpacking pads are either closed cell foam pads or inflatable. Self-inflating pads tend to be too heavy and bulky. For scouts, closed cell pads are simpler and cheaper. If using an inflatable pad, the scout must be able to blow it up and bring a repair kit. These can develop holes, so another reason to lean toward closed cell. Inflatable is more comfortable for most people. That is more of an issue for us old people. Look at the weight of inflatable pads. The lightest ones are expensive. Nemo Switchback – highly recommended. Currently REI exclusive. https://www.rei.com/product/141846/nemo-switchback-sleeping-pad Thermarest closed cell: https://www.rei.com/product/810386/therm-a-rest-ridgerest-solite-sleeping-pad
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    Tell me about backpacks.

    Lightweight Insulating layer from that document: Insulating Layer This item might not leave the backpack, but we need to have it available, depending on the trek chosen and weather conditions. These can be either down or synthetic. Down is lighter and warmer by weight, but typically more expensive and loses more insulating ability if it gets soaking wet. This should not be worn as an outer layer during rain, so It shouldn’t get soaking wet. This should weigh a pound or less. A relatively inexpensive, light down jacket is available at Uniqlo. Jason and I each have one and it weighs around 10 ounces! Keep an eye out for sales and clearance items. Uniqlo light down jacket This layer is more critical depending on the Philmont Trek the crew chooses. There are synthetic options too, but keep it light and pack small! Insulating Layer 2 – Fleece Old Navy has a good, lightweight fleece hoodie at a good price. This works well with a wind jacket since fleece does not block wind well. Old Navy fleece hoodie
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    Tell me about backpacks.

    More from that document: Rain Gear Philmont requires a rain jacket and rain pants. Ponchos are not allowed. This is a tough subject as lightweight raingear can be very expensive. Many Philmonters suggest Frogg Toggs and Dri Ducks, which are often available at Wal Mart. These are light, inexpensive, but are not durable. They have several versions of Frogg Toggs. The lightest ones tear easily. Consider these, although I do not know the weight. Frogg Toggs are a little oversized so they will fit over insulating layers. https://www.froggtoggs.com/all-sport-rain-suit-16593/ My Trail Co. often has discounts on their rain jackets and pants. Don’t get the wind jacket or wind pants in lieu of rain gear. They are not waterproof. https://mytrailco.com/collections/mens-rain-gear Also, search sales for rain jackets and pants under a pound. A light rain hat is optional if the jacket has a hood, mandatory if it does not. A wide brim hat can work well in sun and rain. Windshirt (optional, but I found a cheap option) On a cool, windy morning, these very light jackets combine with the fleece layer to provide a great deal of warmth for the weight. These are usually too expensive to recommend for scouts, but I found a cheap option on Amazon. The sizing is shown in Asian and US sizing, so go up two to three sizes from Asian and do not tell your scout that they are marketed to women.  They look like rain jackets but are not fully waterproof and much lighter. Amazon wind jacket
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    Tell me about backpacks.

    External frame packs are good for heavy loads. Today, unless you have some specialized trip (hunting, very cold temps) or a very long haul before resupply, there's no reason to have a very heavy load. If you do some research and shop around, including cottage industry companies like Zpacks, Gossamer Gear, UGQ, Enlightened Equipment, TarpTent, etc., you can find light, compact sleeping bags and tents that fit in the pack. You don't have to look like the Beverly Hillbillies' truck with a Thermos, lantern and ping pong table strapped to your back. Take just what you need. Choose gear designed for backpacking. Here's my work in progress gear list for Philmont. https://lighterpack.com/r/1y08fv I shopped sales, so very little was bought at full price. I found cheaper options for my son. He had the nerve to grow 1.5 sizes between me getting him trail runners and our second hike! Here's part of a document I wrote for our crew: Here are places I use and others have suggested. Buying at the end of a season is usually a good way to find clearance sales. 1. Thrift Stores – you never know what you might find. 2. REI – I love REI, but do not buy things at full price! Get a membership and shop the sales. Big discounts are on their garage web site at https://www.rei.com/rei-garage They also sell returned items at https://www.rei.com/used Anniversary sale starts May 18. 3. Used Patagonia Gear – Patagonia is a brand with excellent quality, but at a high price. Even used, it is not exactly cheap, but you might find something https://wornwear.patagonia.com/ Their lightweight synthetic and down puffy jackets and fleece shirts are something to consider if you find a bargain. 4. eBay – I bought a nice synthetic insulating jacket (from Ukraine!) and my rain jacket at big discounts. You need to know what specific item you want. Browsing is very time consuming. 5. https://www.campmor.com/ - many discounts, 20% off your first item (look for that coupon on the top of the page). 6. https://www.steepandcheap.com/ - everything is discounted. 7. http://www.backcountrygear.com/ - many sale items available. 8. https://www.backcountry.com/ - many sale items available. 9. https://www.massdrop.com/ This is a unique site. They work with manufacturers to offer quality items at a discount. If enough people commit to buying the item, the discount is greater. I purchased socks and a titanium coffee mug here. The downside is that it can take a month or more for the items to arrive. 10. https://smile.amazon.com/ - not always the cheapest, but I have found deals here. I also like reading the reviews. Use the “smile” version of the site and pick a charity. It costs nothing to do it and you help a charity. 11. https://mytrailco.com/ I bought my son's pack here. Keep in mind the Backpacking Light 70 is frameless. This means you can’t overload it. I also bought a rain jacket, rain pants and other items at good prices.
  9. My son, and other scouts, really don't like swimming in the lake at summer camp. He chose to do the Hiking merit badge for that reason. I did the hikes with him. It certainly is harder than Swimming. Cycling might be done less often due to fewer counselors, too.
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    Cub Scout takes knee during pledge

    A scout has the first amendment right to protest without being punished by the government. BSA has a right to tell a scout that certain conduct is expected while in uniform and if a scout violates those rule, membership can be revoked. Doing this in uniform in wrong. Not illegal, but wrong. As was mentioned above, feel free to protest as your beliefs dictate, but not in uniform. I hope BSA lets the scout and parents know that this is not appropriate in uniform. This is an issue perfectly appropriate for discussion in the Citizenship in the Community merit badge.
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    Philmont 2019 Treks / Itineraries

    Should a mod move this to the high adventure section?
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    QRP at Philmont

    Are you hoping to communicate with another crew you have there at the same time? If Philmont uses those, I'm pretty sure they'd not want crews using the same bands.
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    Philmont 2019 Treks / Itineraries

    This is why we switched from white gas to canister stoves. I watched some of our scouts learning to use the white gas stoves and did not like the unnecessary safety risks. Add in the priming and likelihood of fuel spills and we moved to remote canister stoves. It made a big difference. My understanding is that both fuel types are available at staffed camps. Is that correct? What is the suggested canister size for a crew of 8? I'll have a tiny, light stove for adult coffee since a properly caffeinated scoutmaster is the number 1 safety item in scouting. That would be our emergency backup fuel source, although we hit 6 staffed camps on our trek.
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    Seabase 2020

    That is a bummer. Get the crew certified ahead of time so you can have more days diving.
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