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  1. Tired_Eagle_Feathers

    Per WSJ -BSA may declare bankruptcy

    I don't really have an opinion on the national leadership of Scouting, but I will say that this is clearly just a way to dump/force negotiations on sexual abuse settlement claims. This is the way businesses legally shirk their financial obligations. Not really a fan of it but this is what businesses do. Doesn't sound incompetent to me in that regard.
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    Why all the slap-stick in Cub Scouting?

    It was never a big part of scouting when I was in scouts. About the only time we really encountered it was when we went to a regional event with other troops. I was not raised with a faith, and neither are my kids. This is becoming more and more the norm, and I expect that eventually Scouting will catch up with it to stay in existence, like they have with girl Scouts and gay members and such. Religion is rapidly fading in the United States. By 2035 there will be more people who claim no religious affiliation than people who claim a Protestant faith. And by age, it's even starker. Already 35% of 18-29 year-olds claim no religious affiliation. There are other ways to learn skills without resorting to goofiness. We went on their Webelos invite and we had the "pitch" from the scoutmaster. Seems like a very active troop like mine was when I was young, doing high adventure kind of stuff. I don't know how it's going to work out in practice, but as a kid there wasn't much opportunity for centralized buffoonery because each patrol was busy with its own tasks during the trip. This is pretty much my take on religion in general also. Our faith is in moral action.
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    Why all the slap-stick in Cub Scouting?

    I am more of the "pick and choose" kind of Scouter. I like Scouting as a whole, but for me, I'm in it for the scoutcraft. That's what turned my crank as a Scout, and what I want my son to learn. Now frankly, I have considered just "leaving it", and we'll just go camping as a family. I was talking with my brother-in-law over Thanksgiving and that is what they decided to do. He tried Cub Scouts with his son but found it to "chaotic" and decided they would just go camping as a family. I think Scouting as a whole is a great organization when it hearkens to its roots in scoutcraft and leadership. There are many aspects I'd like it to dump, like religion and goofiness. These things were not a part of my Scouting experience growing up. It's probably a pack/troop specific thing. But there are enough positive aspects of Scouting, like scoutcraft and leadership, that make me want my son to continue to enjoy doing those things under the auspices of Scouting while ignoring the parts we don't want to do. Even when I was a Scout, I thought Cub Scouts overall did a disservice to Scouting, and now having been in it I believe it even more. Even 35 years ago kids grew up fast. Today they grow up even faster. I think by the time a lot of kids get to age 11 what they think Scouting is about is "wussy", and thus they don't go on to Scouting. When I was a kid in school you never let on that you were in Scouts. It was considered XXX (rhymes with "hay"). But our Scout troop was exceptionally hard-core. Some of the hardest work and activities I ever did I did in Scouting. I think these kids have their perceptions skewed from Cub Scouting. Our last pack campout my son and I basically had our own little campout at the pack campout. We had our own campfire. We opted out of the pack meal and cooked steaks as part of doing our Cast Iron Chef work. Instead of going to the pack campfire we sat around our own fire and roasted marshmallows and ate s'mores. While the rest of the kids were running around playing we worked on lashings. I've always heard, "Be the change you want to see", so we are. But frankly, we're just marking time for the rest of the year until we can get into real Boy Scouts and hopefully leave the goofiness behind.
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    Why all the slap-stick in Cub Scouting?

    Nah, we're going to do our own thing. This weekend we have a pack campout. The pack does not plan any activities for the weekend other than meals and the campfire. So, my son and I are going to do our own thing. We are going to plan our own meals, and have our own campfire, and cook our own food, and work on lashing projects, like making a table. It's going to be cold, so we'll want an evening campfire we can actually sit next to. For my son and me, sitting around the fire is a time for relaxing and chatting, maybe singing songs. It's not a vaudeville act. The other thing that really grinds my gears is when they make it "audience participation" so you are pressured to join in with the theatrics. And it's not just campfires. There's hardly a thing that goes by without us "giving a hand" or "big round of applause". See: Dad Joke. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dad_joke
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    New girls in Scouting

    I'm surprised they didn't go with MT and FT.
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    New girls in Scouting

    I think the acrobatics the organization is doing to try and not say the word "girl" is preposterous. You can be a girl Scout and not a Girl Scout.
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    Why all the slap-stick in Cub Scouting?

    One of the things that irks me so far with my son's Cub Scout experience (I was never in cubs, just Boy Scouts) is this pervasive idea that everything has to be comedic, or slapstick cornball to be "fun". Even during the BALOO training they emphasized that there should never be a dull moment during the campfire and if there is the leader should jump in with some kind of space-filling cornball thing to keep it "fun". At the last district campout last weekend my son opted to go back to our campsite and have our own campfire rather than go to the big group campfire. He finds the cornball nature of the group campfires off-putting, plus he would rather sit next to the fire and tend it himself than have to sit 30 feet away from the campfire and listen to kids incoherently mumble their way through skits. Plus it was chilly and we wanted to actually sit next to the fire. When I was in scouting campfire time was about sitting around the camp fire and cooking and shooting the bull with your friends. Why all the emphasis on the cornball? Why isn't camping and scoutcraft itself considered fun?
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    Tell me about backpacks.

    My dad was poor as a kid. They had to borrow a bucket of water from the neighbors to flush their toilet. As a scout and made his own pack. Had a wooden frame.
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    Tell me about backpacks.

    We are supposed to be getting an REI here next fall. I think the actual solution to my carrying weight problems is to sneak all my gear into my son's backpack.
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    Tell me about backpacks.

    I remember when I was in Scouting that when I first started out I wanted to put every little cool thing in my pack that I could. In the end I tried to see how little I could put into my pack. When you think about it, you are really only going to be gone for a weekend. About the only thing you absolutely have to bring is water. Once we took Wilderness Survival, it really changed the way we approached food on hiking trips. We did not want to bring cooking gear beyond our own personal mess kits. And even those were sometimes forgone for a simple plastic plate and a fork. We didn't want to clean it nor carry it. Not to mention when I was older I had to look after the younger kids. I remember packing out one trip with my pack on my back and another kid's on my front. I don't know if I have it in me anymore to be able to go on hiking trips with my son when he gets into Scouting, which will be a shame. But if I do, it's going to be very spartan packing. Hard enough to drag my 280 pound, 48-year-old self up a trail.
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    Tell me about backpacks.

    I found this. I guess internal frame packs are the thing now.
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    Tell me about backpacks.

    So I dug my old backpack out of the attic and discovered that the nylon straps are disintegrating. The frame is aluminum and the bag part is fine. I can probably make new straps from leather. I looked online at REI and all the backpacks today look like a giant duffle bag with straps. Not at all what I grew up with. How do you attach a bed roll, sleeping bag, and tent to these new kinds of backpacks?
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    New girls in Scouting

    The South, particularly the rural South, is still very "outdoorsy". My question is, why weren't they (or were they) doing Girl Scouts before?
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    New girls in Scouting

    Looks like I was mis-informed.
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    Where to find all the rules?

    Thanks for all the resources!
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