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From talking to pros, my impression is that National doesn' t have a clue. I mentioned how AOL dens can Cross Over December 1st 2018, and they need a plan and prepared to be ready. Comment I heard was that if the program is not ready for January 1st, everyone can stay in and earn more activity badges until the program is. If my pack decides to withhold my youngest son's AOL and Cross Over ceremonies until a girls program was established, Scouting WILL lose my son. He is starting to get bored waiting for folks to catch up as it is.

Yes, every troop is different. You should have seen it somewhat at summer camp and camporees. But as you pointed out, you really see it when camping with someone.

It's Perkinston, MS but it's 30 minutes of Picayune, MS is Salemen Scout Reservation. 1600+ acres of devoloped and undeveloped camping. Forgot the state park's name, but it's in Houma, LA. did SM fundamental camping portion there. Give me some time to get unwind and get my scrap book. I'll post what I can. Need more coffee, especally after the lcok in.

This is really appropriate . This weekend, I spent time with the SPL trying to help him out and get organized. We had a nice long chat, and he got 1.5 months planned out and detailed. One thing I found was the WOODS WISDOM book the troop got back in 1993. I've seen it before, and suggested using it as a model to base his meetings on. But it ain't Green Bar Bill. Not only is the instruction based upon different ability groups, instruction appears to be taken away from the PLs. Multiple times I read getting parents involved in teaching and/or attending camp outs or activities.

Mixed emotions of the notoriety. One one hand it may be good that they get the views of use unit serving Scouters who will have to deal with issues as they come up. On the other hand, I have seen how some Scouters have been treated when they questions about the professionals. Best case is they are removed from district and council level positions and ignored. Worse case I've seen once was their membership revoked.

I'm one of those who has spent a lot of money on Star Wars. I now have kids. My kids were introduced to Star Wars by me. They know, "HAN SHOT FIRST!" They watch Clone Wars. They have read some of the children's Star Wars books. Thye have build Star Wars models.They were pumped. The prequels were ok with them but the last 2 movies have been, "Meh" They thought Leia's "Mary Poppins" act was ridiculous. The older 2 especially noticed a lot of the plot holes. They were not impressed. While they like the series overall, they are not fantaics anymore like I was at there age.

Sorry I've been out since since Friday. Work was crazy, and just back from the troop's lock in. I meant more and more family involvement.

10 minutes is the window for AED use.

There is also a drone AED out there. I asked a friend if it would be feasible for Philmont, and he said drones would not.

What are some ways of doing this? Folks in my troop are out of ideas. We've had 3 parent meetings and it's been in one ear out the other. We've had individual sessions with offending parents, and they keep on doing what they want. We had Scouts walk away from their interference, and let the parents do dishes, cooking, etc. Only thing I can think of is having the Scouts start complaining at BORs. And I do not know if it has been brought up at BORs; whether because the Scouts are afraid to comment, or the ones getting ticked off have not advanced. The thing that surprised me, until I found

With my troop, that is why call the whitewater trek a "family camp out with each family responsible for themselves," so they can do Class IV rapids. HEHEHEHEHE. That's why my middle son is pushing hard to get First Class ASAP, as well as working out. He wants to go on the AT this year after doing the 18 mile prep trip with his brother last year. Only reason why he couldn't go last year was he wasn't First Class in time.

3rd edition VOLUMES (emphasis) 1 &2 . IT WAS AWESOME! ( ok I'm shouting now ) Lent it to a friend whom I thought could use some help. And he moved unexpectedly without returning it.

The problem is that when the family joins en masse, they cause problems. We have one family that refuses to let their son go camping or any other activity unless one of them go. Summer camp? Yep, mom went. This weekend's museum visit. Again Mom will be there. The dad is the one that wanted 100% guarantee that nothing would happen to his son. The other family does like to camp. problem is they jump in and do everything for their Scout. And the let their Tiger go crazy.

Yes, setting boundaries is a problem with this troop IMHO. part of it is that when the troop was dying, The SM and a MC would be the 2 adults. Problem was that sometimes a daughter or grandson would show up. and even before that, the troop did a yearly whitewater family trip. Then after the troop as resurrected, at one time there was not enough adults involved. So the current SM would at times have to bring his daughter when he had her that weekend. No one sees the problem with with that. When I brought it up once before, I got nailed by multiple parties. Since I had bigger things to deal with

4H has multiple programs within it, but they are all coed as far as I know. at least around here. My sons are involved in the 4-H Envirothon program. It's pretty intense, at least the group we have. And it is very adult driven? In all honesty, I have no clue to other programs that allow boys to make their own decisions, and learn from the consequences. Talking to the oldest, as long as it doesn't get too bad, he's staying. He's got friends in the troop, and is Life. But he knows other troops are out there.

@AVTech 1) WELCOME TO THE FORUMS!!!!!!!! 2) To answer your question, you need to go back to previous threads over the last 2 years, with an emphasis on posts since April. Long story short, we have parents, who are now registered committee members, who don't care a fig about the Patrol Method or youth led. There have been major issues with them jumping in and interfering with the program to the point that the older Scouts have walked away in frustration. They are bringing siblings along on camp outs, even if they are not suppose to be there i.e. District camporee. And now, with

Anyone else get a "Voice of Scouting" survey on families being "welcomed" by troops? I did, and I was completely truthful: the inclusion of "family camping" is hurting the Boy Scouts, because adults are taking over planning, limiting choices on where to camp, and are bringing siblings which interfere. There are only two trips my sons are looking forward to this year, and possibly a third. Summer Camp and the AT trek are the two confirmed, and possibly the AT prep trip, depending upon location. When the PLC met for the annual planning conference, because the Scouts were not fully prepared,

Note to self: NEVER lend out my SMHB 3rd ed Vols 1 and 2. It won't come back home. What I find interesting about these pics is that BSA is now promoting the Troop Program Features, where instruction is divided into 3 ability groups. Grant you, my old troop used WOODS WISDOM, as a basis for our meeting plans, but taught by patrols. PLs, knowledgeable Scouts in the patrol, but most often older Scouts in the Leadership Corps did the instruction.

My understanding is GBB wrote the syllabus for BA22 ( that's how we abbreviated Brownsea Double Two in my council) I do not know when the program officially ended, but the New Orleans Area Council, now the Southeast Louisiana Council, conducted their last BA22 weeklong camp in 1988. Why double two, I've hear different stories. One I was told orignally was to honor the original 22 Scouts at the 1907 Brownsea camp. One later is that it was suppose to be the second attempt at Brownsea getting Scouting back on track. As for variations, yes there were. My council had 4 patrols divided e

Correct. Cub Scouts is 3 years long. Then they got to a NSP for 1 year, limited to 3 or 4 camp outs and no summer camp. Then they are in a regular patrol. It use to be they were a Boy Scout until 14, then became a Venturer automatically, but now I think they stay a Scout until they Eagle or quit.

I was fortunate to have an SM who was a long time Scouter, and allowed us to use what we learned at BA22. When I staffed JLTC, SMs were suppose to attend a precamp conference. about 1/2 did. On the final day, there was a graduation ceremony that SMs were invited to attend, less than 1/4 showed up (it was on a Saturday). Purpose of those two events was to get the SMs behind the Scouts. When we had a post conference meeting to see how folks were doing, the #1 complaint was that the SM would not let them run the troop like they were taught. The troop locally that was dying until last year a

My philosophy is once in a den, he stay's with the den. I had one Cub in the same situation, and he stayed with us. I had another Cub who quit before he failed. He later came back to Cub Scouts in another pack. He was put in the grade specific den there because A) He was not involved with my den at that level and B) His schoolmates were in that den. Unlike school, you and you son have a lot of options with Cub Scouts.

BA 22 was the forerunner of the Junior Leader Training Conference and today's NYLT. It was intense!

We had a mom asking about MBUs, especially since some were being advertised. Both the SM and I told our stories on why we discourage them: folks are generally given the MB. She kept going on and on about MBUs, and we both kept telling how locally they giveaways. She didn't see a problem with that.

Depends on the unit. In the 'High Speed, Low Drag" and "One and Done" Advancements units. probably no one. Those units will high standards and expectations, all of them. sadly my unit is in the middle of these two. We are working on getting those expectation high. Once upon a time, a Scout was expected to "master the skills," and "the badge represents what you can do, not what you have done." In the troop I grew up in, yes the older Scouts could do them as they were the ones teaching the skills to the younger Scouts. In fact, one of my Eagles as a 20 something Marine was stationed