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    Sometimes being Trustworthy, and Loyal will appear to others as being unKind or unFriendly to others. Sometimes being Helpful will make you appear disCourteous and unKind. And I can go on and on. I do my best to live up to the Oath and Law. But try to insult or hurt My Scouts you need to watch out. I personally think allowing girls into Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts is the worse mistake ever, and one that is irrevocable unlike 1972's Improved Scout Program. I think it will hurt boys, and even the CSE made comments to that effect. That is why they want a separate girls program. But we al
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    I want to say that was put in for our LDS brothers who still use the old 3 year Cub Scout program in use prior to 1982 when Tigers were introduced. I know in my neck of the woods, once they join a den, they stay with them.
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    At one time I know Explorers, and later Venturers, could wear the Eagle patch until 21. Saw many 18-20 year olds in my post do just that. Way before my time, Sea Scouts could wear Eagle too. In fact they made a navy blue background and a white background Eagle patch just for them.
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    Any way you could scan those into pdf format and make them available? Bill's writing style made you want to read the books. The current style makes the BSHB boring.
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    Great Scott I'm not alone! Yes we had parents, now all registered as committee members, trying to change plans and work on MBs. The new batch of parents want everything advancement oriented. SSSSSSOOOOO I suggested to my boys, who were teaching that month, that they do Chess MB by the book. It was the boringest meetings. Only thing that got their attention was when it came time for gametime; playing chess. After that expereince, the PLC said working on skills is fine, MB are a heck no. If Scouts want MBs, they can find the time to finish them on their own. Mission
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    One thing to remember about ARC and BSA, there is a lot of collaboration with the 2 organizations. The BSA and ARC lifeguard programs are 95% identical. Only difference is the addition of G2SS policies, which are stricter. When I took BSA Lifeguard in 2016, for an extra $25 or $35 and taking the ARC written test, I could have been dual certified. Heck BSA Lifeguard classroom portion was watching ARC videos. Yes I would have been ticked. I was a certified YMCA Lifeguard, and still needed to work with a Lifesaving MBC to get teh MB.
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    Originally, Venturing, except for Sea Scouts, did not have ranks as they do today. They had "Recognitions, " i.e. Bronze, Gold, and Silver Awards, and "Specialty Awards," i.e. Ranger, QUEST, and the Sea Scout Quartermaster Rank. IMHO because advancement has been turned into a metric by national, and most Venturers could care less about awards and recognitions, folks at national implemented the current ranks. Don't know how popular they are still.
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    I find it ironic that her dad is pushing her two brothers, they are progressing, but not at the rate dad wants them to. Nor have they held elected PORs, only appointed ones. Yet there are others in the troop who are not being pushed, but keep getting elected and are advancing along nicely.
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    How many Eagles in 2016? Don't know about Summit, but there were 22-25 Quartermasters in 2016 if memory serves. As an Eagle and former Sea Scout (Ordinary rank) I can tell you QM was a heck of a lot harder than Eagle.
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    Already had a dad tell me his daughter will earn both Gold and Eagle. She's 13, so she has time to do it even if she doesn't want to. Dad is pushing older brother. And yes it's for college applications reasons
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    Agreed, distance is a challenge for adults.
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    A few thoughts 1) camping 300 feet away from other patrols and adults. That way are close enough in an emergency, but far enough away to be independent 2) Adults don't interfere except for safety 2a) Adults make sure it's a true emergency. Had an incident where one ASM jumped on a Scout's case because he thought the Scout was playing with fire, when he was cooking his meal over an open flame. 3) Let the Scouts make any rules like " no consecutive terms," have to be X rank for PL, SPL, etc. 4) Don't tell Scouts who to vote for. Yes, heard about that one twice n
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    HHHHMMMM, maybe I should start wearing all of my bling on my ASM shirt, and maybe folks will listen? Nah won't happen. I've parents who want "high speed, low drag" advancement. They want everything in Boy Scouts to be advancement oriented, and not fun. they want a 100% guarantee that their kids will be safe, and nothing will happen to them. Experience and training don't mean much to these folks. And Scouters with that much bling and still doing it wrong hurt all of us working on doing it right.
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    While I agree with you 100%, I'm playing playing Devil's Advocate. 1) Units have been doing it unofficially for years, and finally BSA agrees to it, why should my daughter suffer because we can't get enough new volunteers/girls/ whatever the reason is? 2) The CSE stated in their 20 questions video that "as long as they work out of their own book, it'll be OK." So if Coed dens, as long as they work out of their own book is OK, why not on the troop level? 3) The CO has no problem with coed, why should the BSA, espeically after the CSE's comments?
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    Re-institute the Knights of Dunamis?
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    Yes, one disadvantage with under 18 year olds is laws. Some of the things I did as a lifeguard back in the day are no longer allowed. I guarded on the ocean, lakes, did chemicals, etc. Now limitied to pools only and over 18 need to do chemicals. My brother at 16 was working PT as a cook. By the time he was 21, mastered cooking, and was a gourmet chef when the Cajun craze was happening.
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    There are troops out there allowing girls to tagalong. Ms. Ireland is the most widely known. There have been others in the past.
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    I've been out of the AIA loop for several years now due to Cub Scouts and trying to fix the troop. Last I heard was a new Brotherhood Ceremony back in 2015. If ceremonies will no longer use Native American regalia, one option I've seen is the "Black Robes." One of the guys who started OA Trail Crew came from my lodge, and is a historian by training. He has done a lot of research on the OA's history, and the OATC ceremony team uses his research. Long story short, the wear black robes with the sash. When my chapter's ceremony team was active, they would wear eplica black robes fro Brotherho
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    Well enough folks ignored BSA policy about girls that they are now being accepted into the movement. Ms. Ireland is just the most well know at the moment. What else would be new?
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    I have seen a Scout do a second project before. First project was so screwed up, that the benefiting org asked him and the rest of his troop to leave immediately with the project unfinished. Also Boy Scouts are no longer allowed to do projects for the org, despite 15+ years of working with them. He redid the project book and approval process for the second project. Don't quote me, but I thought I heard about a possible lawsuit against the BSA over the matter as the screw up WAS major, had potential legal liabilities, and almost shut down the benefiting org. Professional contractors
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    Theoretically troops are suppose to remain all male and all female. As I was told by several Scouters, having a CO charter 2 separate troops is not practical. Financially having 2 separate groups doesn't make sense. And since there will be a strong chance that volunteers will be working with boys will also work with the girls, it won't be possible to have busy volunteers deal with another set of meetings each week, another weekend of camping a month, and another week of summer camp. Just as packs and troops have ignored national with allowing girls to do things with no apparent repercussions,
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    I know of only one. A troop folded and went to Trails Life. It took the Scout and his brothers 3 months to find another troop that met their needs. He was on a VERY tight schedule due to A) troop folding and trying to find another troop and B) some troop irregularities. Those were not found out until AFTER he transferred and was going for his Life BOR. Board had to reconvene so that he could complete 1 of the new requirements and he earned Life at 17y 7mos. Long story short, old troop A) added age requirements to the ranks and B) didn't update advancement requirements. Whatever the requiremen
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    Well with the number of girls who have been "unofficial members" or troops over the years, I bet you that if they get lawyers like Ms. I has, they could argue that they earned eagle too. Sorry no exceptions
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    I disagree, you allow one exception you open yourself up to more and more allowances and exceptions. IMHO we are now allowing girls because some folks didn't want to follow the rules and wanted exceptions.
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