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How can she earn MBs and rank in the BSA if she is not a boy Scout? Even female Sea Scouts, who need to do MB skills for some of their advancement, do not earn MBs, and they are members of the BSA.

Question. 1) Either youa re a member or you are not? 2) How can she earn the AOL if she was not a Cub Scout, but a "tagalong" 3)If she earned the Chief Scout Award, how can she not completed rank and MBs and not be recognized?

I KNOW scouts do better and learn more when they go at their own pace. I was pushed by both my uncle and cousin to get Eagle before high school, and was well on my way too. Like HT's son above, I got sidetracked by the adventure and fun of Scouting and earned Eagle at 18. I was active, did lots of things, but was having too much fun to focus on MBs as they became boring. My oldest is 14 and Life. I think I "pushed" him twice. Once was to honestly earn a MB he was given at an MBU, and the second time to do the one requirement for Cooking MB, meals not requiring refrigeration, and show the

I going the cheap route. Wife told me she would cremate me, put me in a knee sock, and bury me at camp. I said " YES PLEASE!" 2 pairs of socks are in the safety deposit box just for that purpose. BSA will do anything to make money. That's why they went after all the local mom and pop shops that did troop T-shirts and whatnot over the years. Funny think is, As late as 1998, they were allowing folks to use BSA designs and logos for free. I have a DVD somewhere of BSA images I got for free, including several versions of the Venturing logo.

Me neither. And I have seen it happen . The youth was given Eagle on appeal to national, and the entire district advancement committee resigned in protest.

I may have to go to New York after all now.

I admit I got mixed emotions on the paperwork. One one hand it is a good planning tool, far better than the one page form I had back in the day, can help conceptualize the project, and give you experience for later in life. Like filling out government grant applications for projects at work. On the other, some of the demands and expectations are ridiculous IMHO. And as others mentioned the amount of paperwork involved. I read one Eagle Workbook, the one our DAC uses as an example, and I bet the Scout spent easily 3-4 months putting it together.

In one case I know of, yes I would trust him with my son. I was in a unit that had a dad who did something really stupid 20 years prior when he was 18. He learned his lesson, and was a model citizen since. He was willing to do anything and everything to help out to make sure his son didn't do anything stupid like he did. When we got desperate for a leader and was asked, he was up front and honest about it. We told him to try anyway. He was rejected. While he can not register as a volunteer, no one can stop him form being around his son. Here's the crazy thing. Even though he cannot regist

Don't know about the pocket rocket, but compared to my Whisperlite, the noise of my Trangia and Batchstovez 2.0FE is astounding. Instead of jets on afterburner, I actually hear birds, cats, and my hoodlums.

What if the parents are registered as Cub Scout leaders and the siblings are Cub Scouts? Yes, we had that happen. ASM brought his TDL wife and Tiger to camporee. When I brought it to the adults in the troop's attention that Cub Scouts, except Webelos checking out troop, were not allo wed to camp at camporee, I got so much pushback that the family was "family camping," and that the Tiger would not be an issue, I said the heck with it. DE brought this on by allowing a Cub event at the same time and location as camporee. I had bigger issues to deal with, especially since I had to redo a camp

As a former pro, I can concur with all of that. In fact I would not recommend the job to anyone. Before I became a pro, I asked a well respected Scouter if I could use him as a reference. He said, "sure, no problem. What's the job you're going for?" When I said to be a DE, his immediate response was " HELL NO! HAVE YOU LOST YOUR [expletive deleted] MIND? ARE YOU INSANE?" He then went on about all the stress DEs face, said he could not do that to me, and would not be a reference. Part of me wishes I would have listened. Worse job ever. Part of me is glad because the best thing out moving

Good questions. The assumption is that because it is a 'family camp out" with each family responsible for themselves, they do not have to follow BSA rules. But I bet if an accident happens, things will hit the fan.

My troop does not allow consecutive terms for any elected PORs. Appointed are a different matter. But there is now a push by adults to change the rules so that you only get 1 term of office in a position. That's because the other adults say same the same people keep getting elected, and it's a popularity contest. My opinion is that the Scouts know best who will get the job done, and vote for those Scouts. One person upset has a son who, when he ran for PL voted for the other person. Another son ran for PL and was not elected. Due to extracurriculars, he has been to only 1 meeting since electi

Seen it too. Irony is that the Council VP of Camping was complaining to me about Cub Family camping and how the families bring everything but the kitchen sink. This was while loading up his truck with all of his gear for a display promoting Boy Scout camping. I was the one promoting Cub Scout camping, and everything fit either in my backpack, or in my hands (trifold display). Grant you, my pack is 85-90L but it beats hi extended cab pickup. Although I admit, the family that brought their RV to Webeloree b/c mom was pregnant was the worse thing I saw.

AH that is why the whitewater trip is a "Family Trip:" each family is responsible for themselves. Another reason why I am not going. As a BSA Lifeguard, I'm going to be responsible regardless of what they call it. And yes, I mentioned SSD and SA, as well as G2SS rules to the adults when it first came up. And that is why I was told it's a "family campout.' And after the last canoeing weekend, which turned into a family camp out, I'm not dealing with it. Glad the canoeing weekend will be the same as the backpacking weekend for the older Scouts. As for siblings/children and dogs, kinda

Don't know. I have no connection with one batch of Scouts, and I don't want any with them either. If we keep getting more like them, and their parents, I can see myself leaving.

One of the ASMs is pushing a family camp out to go whitewater rafting. Scouts suggested another major trip instead. both are being considered BY THE ADULTS (emphasis) as a possible family camp out. since 'we can only do one."Wife has said she does not want to camp with the troop. Even she is frustrated with Boy Scouts doing "Family Camping" as she is tired of the complaints from me and the boys. We may be doing our own trip instead. Only one who does not have a proper backpack is the youngest. He has a 30L daypack, which could at least carry his stuff.

It is very tempting. Part of me feel obligated to my Scouts to keep pushing though.

Yes. I didn't know anything about it until Monday, 3 weeks after the fact. Interesting thing was there were multiple signs my youngest posted saying do not touch.

Incident at Christmas party was brought to the SM's attention, and mine, Monday night. Scout was doing something he was not suppose to be doing. He says my son punched him in the back and told him to stop, while son says he slapped in on the back to get his attention and tell him to stop.

A youth protection issue. That was legit. The 12:30 AM call was not. It was a CM vs CC issue that definately could have waited.

While my wife's threat of divorce after 6 weeks of marriage was what finally took the blinders off my eyes, I can tell you I could not support a family on a DE's salary. Fine and dandy when single. But no way i could support my family. And one thing to think about is the hours. DEs are on call 24/7. Yes I had calls as early as 4:30 AM and as late as 12:30 AM. My volunteers gave me the best wedding gift: they would not disturb me between 10PM and 6AM for the first year of marriage. Job is stressful. I've seen folks have nervous breakdown. I know folks who got ulcers and other m

I'm tired of the helicopter parents. After the wanting of a guarantee that nothing will happen to their Scout, a veiled threat to several of us at the meeting, I don't want anything to do with the helicopters or their sons. My house, which has hosted several troop functions, is no longer available after an incident at the Christmas party at my house. And my sons are not to have anything to do with the helicopters, nor their children. A conversation I will be having with the SM Monday.

I hope Venturing, as well as Sea Scouts, do not go away. Had a conversation with the hoodlums. They are not happy with the way things are going with the troop. Part of me wants to start a crew.

I think a bunch of us are thinking of leaving. I am getting tired of all the drama adults cause.