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  1. Here is the Unit Money Earning Application, point 7 states "At no time are units permitted to solicit contributions for unit programs". I have always held the position that grants should not be considered soliciting funds as the are saying "we have money, fill out this application and we might give you some". I doubt your council will see it the same way. Also, your money is your money, you do not have to give the council a 1¢. https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/34427.pdf
  2. It would appear that some these changes go against what is laid out the in the "RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA" https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/membership/pdf/Rules_and_Regulations_June_2018.pdf
  3. This sounds like the changes that the Northern Star Council has implemented.
  4. I remember have an email conversation with a high up in venturing from the national office on why there was an advancement criteria on the crew JTE scorecard at the time, when advancement is not a method of venturing. I basically got "it is what it is, we think venturers should be advancing"
  5. Here is a council charter renewal form. filestore.scouting.org/filestore/mission/pdf/523-027_WEB.pdf In short a council pays an annual National Service Fee of 3.5% of the total of the salaries of the professional and office staff, though some councils could pay closer to 4%. There is also a national charter fee of $1,000. This fee is waived if the form is submitted on time.
  6. The two people to contact would be your council's president, though your SE could have been the one to basically put him in this position, and the Area Director that your SE reports to, this is a BSA national position.
  7. First a bit of background. -I am an Eagle Scout and I have served as a district advancement chair where I approved Eagle Projects and as well as chaired EBORs, and I currently am a EBOR member for my district and serve on our councils advancement committee. I have reviewed dozens of Eagle projects either on the front end as a district approver or on the back end as a EBOR member. I have seen some really good projects and some that were "eh" at best. I was having a conversation with a fellow leader and his wife about the quality of some of the Eagle projects of late out of our district. I gave them the hypothetical example of a project involving planting a handful of flowers at the base of a flag pole at a volunteer fire department. I told them this would be an acceptable project if a few conditions were met: The candidate gave leadership to two individuals, one scout dug the holes and the other one planted the flowers. Flowers had never been planted at the fire department, so it would not be viewed as routine maintenance It passes the five tests laid out in the G2A during the approval process: The project provides sufficient opportunity to meet the requirement. The project appears to be feasible. Safety issues will be addressed. Action steps for further detailed planning are included. The young man is on the right track with a reasonable chance for a positive experience When you think of an Eagle project this is not what you would normally think of, but with the current rules in the G2A and the Eagle Project Workbook this would have to be an acceptable project. How do you get more out of Eagle projects yet stay within the guidelines that we have to follow? I think one key is with the unit appovers, they need to be urging scouts to do more. But what is "enough" and how do you define that without crossing any of the aforementioned guideline?
  8. Per section 9.0.1.3 of the Guide to Advancement: References: Must list all six (five if not employed). If not affiliated with an organized religion, then the parent or guardian provides this reference.
  9. Agreed, it was founded in 1915 but it did not become a full Boy Scout program until 1948. From oa-bsa.org/about/history,
  10. My background is I am an Eagle Scout and obtained Brotherhood membership in the OA as a youth. I have not been very active in the lodge as an adult but keep my dues paid. At the unit level I have served as an ASM and troop committee member, for the district I have served in several positions including district commissioner and district program chair, and at the council level I served on the very first venturing committee in our council. I currently serve as a district religious emblems coordinator and a member of the council advancement committee. I do not have any children in the program, though I do have a 6 year old daughter in American Heritage Girls, and to be fully transparent I am also the troop coordinator of our AHG troop. A troop coordinator in AHG is sort of a cross between a BSA committee chair and a scoutmaster or cubmaster, though I delegate most of the program duties in our troop to the vice coordinator. Let me start with the OA changes, these are the simplest for me. The OA was originally organized in 1948 as the Boy Scouts national brotherhood of honor campers (Boy Scouts as in the program, not the BSA corporate organization). In 1998 the OA became Scouting’s National Honor Society and became separate from the Boy Scout program. As the OA is no longer part of the Boy Scout program and is now Scouting’s National Honor Society I have no problem allowing in Venturers and Sea Scouts as youth members. I wish they would allow Venturing Gold Award recipients be eligible as for election, while not many there are some out there who did not pursue the new awards program. And if the Boy Scout, or "Scouts, BSA", program is going to admit girls I have no problem with them being eligible for election. As for girls in the program, this is where it gets a bit complicated for me, and a bit deeper than just girls in the program. I believe the BSA is losing its focus. In 1916 the federal charter of the BSA became law, and here is the purpose it lists for the BSA: Contrast that with the mission statement of the BSA: They are no where close to each other, when I envision how the BSA should be ran, I see the former. The stated purpose is boy focused. Allowing girls in to what I consider the "secondary program" of Venturing and Sea Scouts does not really hinder this focus. But to allow girls in the two premier programs of the organization, I am just afraid the BSA will lose it's focus on boys. How long can the organization drift away from its legal purpose as outlined in its federal charter before its no longer what it was designed to be?
  11. Found these on scoutstuff.org http://www.scoutstuff.org/nsearch/?q=district#?q=district&keywords=district&res_per_page=12&search_return=all
  12. Actually Eagle projects are considered troop activities, this changed either with the initial release of the Guide to Advancement in 2011 or with one of its revisions. This is from the 2017 revision:
  13. Just to give an update, the SM had a discussion with the scout and turns out the initial information he received was not quite accurate, the SM has no issues on how the project was carried out and signed off on the project as complete. The SM now understands that Eagle projects are troop functions and should there should be coordination between the scout and the troop.
  14. Is the Varsity program dead? Both the youth and adult applications as well as the BSA's program site now make no reference to Varsity. https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/524-406.pdf https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/524-501.pdf https://www.scouting.org/programs/
  15. The SM is planning on having a discussion with the young man and his parents to get there take as the SM only has second hand information. He was told by several scouts that were there that the scout was just a helper and his parents did all of the leading, and the scout had not met the beneficiary until after the project was complete. For the project itself it was a good project, they build several library boxes and installed them in the community. The SM has no problem with the scout earning Eagle, he just wants to make sure the requirements are completed as stated, nothing more, nothing less.
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