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  1. JoeBob

    Most and Least Popular Merit Badges

    Reminded me of a 10 mile hike my troop did from Young Harris GA to Brasstown Bald (Highest point in GA). It was a balmy 65 when we started, and the SM INSISTED that we take jackets. Huh? We had 8 inches of snow on the ground when we topped out. We were in cotton sweatshirts and tennis shoes. As sweep, I had to pick up two scouts who laid down in the snow and claimed it was warm. The weather front had iced over the macadam road to the summit; so when we reached the end, we had to glisade down the iced road to get to the truck. Sit, slide down until you hit the snow bank on the opposite curve. Crab walk over road, do it again. I still remember the piercing pain in my toes as we warmed up next to the pot-bellied stove. Worse than anything that winter warfare training (Jack Frost 77) threw at me later.
  2. Is it a safe assumption on my part to guess that you've never taken NRA Instructor training? That can re-define 'boring' for you if you get a poor instructor. Ever handle a .50 BMG round? Know how heavy one round is? Want to carry 50 of them on a day hike? We pass inert cartridges of many calibers down the line. I've never seen a boy fall asleep when one of his peers chambers an 870. (Dummy practice rounds). How stupid are movie heroes who walk up to a confrontation with an empty chambered shotgun, anyway? And to the Hollywood intellects who cycle the action a second time a few moments later without having fired a round? Hey, are you going to leave that shotgun shell just lying on the ground? Aren't you going to need all your bullets for the next scene? That's litter. Pick it up! Give 6 or 8 boys practice/toy weapons and have them move about the room without sweeping anyone while the rest of the crowd keeps an eye on their muzzles. Musical chairs will never be the same. The purpose of firearms safety training is not to punish, but to prepare. Dazed bored boys are not getting the import of the training, so we make extraordinary efforts to keep them engaged and entertained. As for adult hot air? I promise you that I will never have to explain to the mother of a wounded scout that her son, Billy, was accidentally shot because Little Johnny did an inadequate job with EDGE while teaching Billy gun safety. Retraining Little Johnny and offering to refund her son's dues doesn't seem to be enough. Firearms are like nothing else we do in Scouting. One needs to recognize a higher responsibility; that there are even adults that should not be allowed to participate in gun safety training.
  3. Our troop requires two 3 hour long sessions that take the place of the regular meetings prior to going on the Shooting Sports weekend. If a scout doesn't pay attention and/or fails the written test, we don't let them near a loaded firearm. The basics of gun safety are best taught in a tightly controlled environment where a boy's attention isn't distracted by "Enough about safety; when are we gonna shoot!?" So far, none of our instructors have ever been swept with a loaded firearm.
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    Proud of our ceremonies team

    Funny. The witch hunt for a 'Secret Society' has created a secret society. Inito
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    Candle Lanterns

    I'm a big fan of candle lanterns. Especially in the winter. A single candle can add an amazing amount of warmth to a small tent. You can dry out gear, sit around comfortably, read (remember books?) and just be cozy in your tent while the weather storms outside. If you suspend a candle lantern inside, you need to use a carabiner or metal clip to isolate the hot candle lantern hanger from your cord. Don't want to melt through your suspending line and have the candle drop. Unfortunately, every Scouter that I've ever run into says that candle lanterns are an 'open flame' and barred from scouting as such. Hope I'm wrong.
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    You must send the letter in order to have any chance of closure. That way you will know that you have done everything that you possibly could do to help right the course of Troop XX. Not sending your explanation will bolster the Webelos 3 mentality, "I asked him for an explanation, and he never got back to me. So he must have had personal reasons." Retaliation? These folks have driven you from your home troop. What could they possibly do more?
  7. That line of storms blew through here earlier. https://www.ajc.com/news/local/breaking-deadly-incident-newton-county-boy-scouts-camp/tVwr8m3HqQE8KN7moES4DK/ Bert Adams was aggressively thinning the trees when I was last there. It's mostly towering pine trees 100's of feet tall. I can vouch for the fact that cutting 90% of the trees makes the remaining 10% of trees more susceptible to wind damage. Without the rest of the grove to dissipate some of the wind speed, the single trees get whipped around by the full force of the air. What's the solution? No trees? No shade? Dang, that's hot! Heartfelt prayers for the family of the 14 yo Texas scout and all involved.
  8. Merry Christmas, y'all! I put this in the 'Issues and Politics' forum in case some of you wanted to suggest that we say 'Happy Holidays' instead of 'Merry Christmas'. Masticate my hiney!! 1- I wish that every girl scout troop finds enough female members and adult leaders to successfully launch their own scouting adventure. 2- I hope that all Scouters find satisfaction in their efforts, and that their visions of Scouting's gifts are fully realized. I appreciate that you are giving of your time. 3 - I freely share with all Scouters who are carrying forward with the new vision of Scouting, that I am jealous of your zeal; and no matter how misguided that I think that you are, I do wish you success. I just could not do it any more. 4 - If you should find your stocking full of switches on Christmas morning, remember; it makes good kindling. 5 - Nevermind... My 19 year old daughter is home from school tonight and cajoled me into watching what she remembers as a her favorite Christmas movie with daddy : 'Die Hard'. It was great! Beethoven wrote some great sinister rifts. In the spirit of 'Die Hard', "Yippe Kye Yea, Mother Pluckers! And to all a good night!" Legal Caveat: In case any of you should ever quote anything that I have said in this post and use it against me in a future thread, I shall deny that I wrote it and claim that my account was hacked.
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    Per WSJ -BSA may declare bankruptcy

    Really, @FireStone ? Moderate voices on the forum have been drowned out by the cacophony of "Times change. BSA must change, too." We politely disagreed. Once it became obvious that closed minds were not listening, we retired to a less vocal status with the caveat "We'll see." Now we are seeing. Part one. In 1,542 posts, I've never whined about being treated unfairly; or chastised the moderators for allowing viewpoints differing from my own. My beliefs are strong enough to withstand scrutiny, disagreement and criticism. I truly hope that National's abdication of its strong leadership position leads to a more localized version of Scouting. But I fear that councils where abuse occurred will not escape being payees to settlements within their bailiwick. Funds will diminish. There is no way to spin this as good news for recruitment numbers. I lurk on this forum not with morbidity as drawn to a train wreck; but with hope that somehow Scouting will pull it off, and survive to teach and inspire youth as Scouting inspired me. I don't think that any of the changes recently imposed can be reversed; BSA as I knew it is dead. Please prove me wrong. Firestone, several impolite responses come to mind that the Scout Law prohibits me from saying. So I'll leave you with one piece of advice: grow a sense of humor; you're going to need it.
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    Per WSJ -BSA may declare bankruptcy

    Yep. I find myself bemused that Irving is blaming their Chapter 11 considerations on the one thing that is NOT their direct responsibility. Diminish nature and the outdoors in the core program - No harm - No foul. Gay Members - No harm - No foul. Gay Leaders - No harm - No foul. Diminish God - No harm - No foul. (Did we really need Mormons? Guess not...) Bechtel (Did we really need Bechtel?) - No harm - No foul. Undercut the value of Eagle - No harm - No foul. Add girls and eliminate boys' safe space - No harm - No foul. Sexual abuse lawsuits... Oh the cost! (We didn't do it! We've put YPT on steroids! We're blameless!) The foul cost! Money pouring down the drain! Dastardly foul lawyers! Punitive damages most foul. And fowl droppings.
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    Per WSJ -BSA may declare bankruptcy

    See Liberals! There is a Santa Claus! Can't you just hear the wine-coolers clinking together?
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    Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

    I can't do 'Susans', but I can do SUSA. Especially if we make Mr. Potato Head our national spokesman: Then he can be the savior of Irving's membership numbers, the Re-SUSA-tater. I can sink no lower...
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    Boy Scouting in WW2

    My father drove a Higgins boat during D-Day. He said it was just like 'Saving Private Ryan.'
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    Stepping Down

    What Eagle Dad said. But make it a couple of years. Every time I visited, looked in on my son, or showed up to speak at an EBOR; the boys or fathers would sidle up to me and say "We miss you." Okay. Too soon to be back here,
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    Need for tree identification

    To know which trees are best to hunt under. Persimmons and locust bean pods early in the season. Red oak acorns next. White oak acorns once they start falling, the whitetail's favorite mast.
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    Eagle Board of Review - Ethics

    I'm of the opinion that this candidate failed on the Scout Motto: 'Be Prepared'.
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    Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

    Let's differentiate from Girls Scouts by sharpening our nomenclature: Female And Male Scouts: FAMS. Or has family camping already trademarked that?
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    What would you do?

    Lyft and Uber offer ride alternatives to absent parents.
  19. Free volunteers cost so much less than paid lower level staff. Free labor equates to higher salaries in Irving. (Back to your hole, JoeBob! Back!"
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    Fitness Goals for Scouters

    I used my role as Scoutmaster to motivate myself to stay fit. "I gotta set a good example for the boys!" Whenever we had a physical challenge ahead, I'd scarf down a handful of chondroitin for the knees, and happily soldier on. I liked being able to make 2 trips up Mount Yonah hauling water(1000 feet of elevation in 2 miles), paddling solo on the Flint and the Blackwater as lead or sweep, and coaching the younger boys halfway up the wall in the climbing gym. I think that that is what being a Scoutmaster is about. Not to say that I never doubled up on s'mores, and heated my own hammock afterwards; or had a 4th hot-dog, when 2 would have sufficed. In my world, only about 10% of Scouters over 35 would be considered fit. I just really wish that more Scouters would push themselves to set a better example. I wonder if part of the friction I have with District and Council bigwigs is them being intimidated by the difference in our levels of fitness. (Probably not; that sounds like my ego talking.) I'm 6'2", 210 lbs, and 64. I have a physically active job, so I can still suck it in and display a sixpack. (It's actually an 8 pack, and the two on bottom are 16 ouncers.)
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    Fitness Goals for Scouters

    Which one of these District level scouters do you want your child to emulate?
  22. Weapons platoon, Alpha Company, 2nd BN, 75th Rangers, Ft. Lewis, WA You?
  23. The Skunk Polecat As Told by the French-Canadian Trapper. I'm hunt ze moose, I hunt zee bear, Sometimes, I hunt zee rat Last veek I take my axe, Forego to hunt zee skunk pole-cat. My fren' Bill, he say Ize very fine fur, somtimes ize good to eat. So I tell my vife she get fur coat, Same times, I'm get some meat! So I valk two, tree, four mile, An' I feel vun awful smell, An' I tink dot skunk she gone an die, An' fur coat, she gone to hell. By an' by I get up close, I raise my axe up high, An' dot gosh dern skunk, she up and trow Spmeting-—Plunk—right in my eye! Sacre Bleu! I am I blind! Jese Chris! I cannot see. I run aroun and roun and roun, An bump in beeg oak tree, By an' by, I light out for zee shack. I'm tink one million skunk polecats They climb up on my back. My vife, she meet me at zee doer, She sick on me my dog;. She say, "You no sleep here no more, You go sleep wis hog." So I go out by dee hog-pen. An' say! What do you sink? Zat gosh dern hog no stand fer dat, On 'count zee awful stink. No more I'm hunt zee skunk polecat For to get his fur or meat. For if his pee she smell like zat, Jese Chris! What if he sheet?!?
  24. @Sentinel947, I was all ready for you to hit on one of my personal hot buttons: bad personal example. When one of these rotund individuals (from a folding chair pulled out of their camping van) implies that this old Eagle Scout, Airborne Ranger, Scoutmaster isn't up to standards because I don't have beads... I need ViseGrip pliers to hold my tongue.