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JoeBob last won the day on January 21 2016

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    Boat sales, sheet metal, photography, dad and husband.
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    Eagle '67. 2nd Rgr BN. Cub master. Retired SM.

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  1. An Example of a Sub Sub Forum

    Eh, testing?
  2. Silly YP police wonder why reasonable adult volunteers are hard to keep.
  3. Alas, poor GBB! I knew him,Stosh -- a fellow of infinite leadership, of most excellent woodskills He hath bore a pack on his back a thousand times, and now how adored in my imagination it is! My reverence rises at it. Here taught those skills that I have practiced I know now how oft. Where be your gibes now, your gambols, your songs, your flashes of merriment that were wont to set Irving on a roar? Not one now to mock your own grinning? Quite membership-fallen?
  4. "This above all - to the Scoutmasters' Handbook be true (circa 1968); And it must follow, as the night the day; Thou canst not then be false to any boy.”
  5. Naturalist-Environmentalist divide

    I bet that Al Gore could make another few million this week if he could actually produce some of the predictions made by 'An Inconvenient Truth'. "Snow will cease to exist.” Uh huh.
  6. Normally, I'd demure and support LNT; but I'm basing my comments on the July 21st 2016 Blowdown: http://bwca.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=forum.thread&threadId=955746&forumID=16&confID=1 The crews are still working to clear sites. The less used portages are passable, but close. Trees are down everywhere. Look at the far shore in the photo. That's a lot of standing dead timber. This storm affected only 25% of the area that the 1999 Blowdown flattened, but it was still scary: http://www.sctimes.com/story/news/local/2016/06/24/area-man-survives-violent-bwca-storm/86333972/ If you want some real wood to cut, something that BSA doesn't have much of these days, the BWCA is for you. Please be careful and train your boys in woods skills and first aid. The writer assumes no responsibility for missing fingers or hacked off feet.
  7. When you have mixed genders (female Venturers and Boy Scouts in my case), YPT can be interpreted to require 2 Adult Females and 2 Adult Males. BWCA rules cap the maximum party size at 9, so you have 4 adults and 5 youth. That ratio is a little steep in my opinion. My trip was obviously not an official Scout trip. We went as private civilians with one adult male and one adult female.
  8. Two more over the limit: I forgot about the joy of having NO cellphone signal and no recharging opportunities. The kids had to talk to each other and games in the tent at night weren't a factor. Your GPS on your phone still works fine; those satellites are still up there. I saved a Google Maps image on my phone for use offline that I had pre-marked with all of our campsite possibilities. It helped us not waste time searching the shoreline for legit campsites. I took 3 phone batteries, but only used 50% of one over a 7 day trip in airplane mode. It's amazing how little power you use when there's no network to ping.
  9. If your are more interested in the experience of the BWCA than the Northern Tier patch, it's more affordable and enjoyable to use a private outfitter. Pro: Route flexibility. The only reservation is your Entry Point and pick-up. If you get into a poor campsite one night, move on. Bad weather? Tent up for a day. Leisure. If you're in a good spot, linger an extra day and enjoy the wilderness. Work on Scout skills, teach a merit badge. Unstructured time for campers to bash around an have fun. My approach to covering distance is to get out of civilization. Once you're in deep, logging miles so that you can brag about paddling X number of miles is missing the point. Fishing. Plentiful Largemouth, Smallmouth, and Northern Pike. Walleye, if you know how to catch them, makes the best eating fish. Campsite improvement opportunity. Improve the fire ring seating, clear the landing area, cut back the latrine trail. Blowdown trees were everywhere. Folding saw and tomahawk were in frequent use. Teach Paul Bunyan before you leave. Hammocks! They pack light, sleep well, and not allowed at Philmont. Group composition. Without YPT concerns, you can take anybody you want, as long as you stay with in the BWCA rules. My dog was an excellent bear alarm. Con: No patch. You have to plan more yourself. http://bwca.com/index.cfm? Bear in mind that some portages are more difficult due to the vertical content. Three miles of flat and smooth is easier than one mile of up and down, especially if it's steep and rocky. Go prepared for the bugs. Avoid black fly season. Mosquitoes after dark can be brutal on the way to the latrine. Avoid marshy campsites. Our best was an exposed point on Disappointment where the breeze kept us bug-free for 2 days.
  10. Retaining existing volunteers would be an easier approach. I left because of the piles of paperwork and redundant time wasting training. Those of you who have been around long enough know. Y'all keep after it. I admire your patience.
  11. Possible Sale of Cabela's to Bass Pro

    Sale still pending. BassPro has lowered the offer. Gander Mountain has declared bankruptcy. It's not competition with each other, it's online shopping. If you like to handle your gear before donating your cash, support your local store.
  12. Canoe safety question

    If the river is rising towards the recommended max, stay away. If the river is high and into the strainers (standing timber, downed logs creating obstacles in the current) it's very dangerous. If this is a flowage that floods regularly (not as much debris), and is on the way down, it shouldn't be a problem. Some rapids that are a challenge at regular levels may be washed out and easier at high levels; but some twists in the channel that are usually calm at low levels, may become swirls, hydraulics,or pillows at a higher level.
  13. Please help?!

    Where's the fun in that? BTW: Beavah won.
  14. Tahawk - Nice! Even pulled me out of the Lurkers' Forum. I didn't want to hijack the thread into another anti-WouldBadger discussion. But the very fact that they waive any training or experience requirement and try to suck in ANY DAMN BODY THAT THEY CAN GET does emphasize that WB is about either indoctrination or money. If WB was once 'the pinnacle of Scout training', it ain't no more. Would you like fries with those beads?
  15. Training requirements for WouldBadger elevate the perceived prestige of the course. Beads are your admission into the 'Old Boys' club, so being a Wouldbadger is helpful if you want other scouters to talk to you as an equal.
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