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  1. 4 points
    Some of you have read about the litany of challenges I've been facing with troop I'm involved with. Some I am going to try and "Knock it off with them negative waves." and focus on the #1 and #2 reasons I am involved with the troop, my sons, and something positive. Oldest son spoke with his PL at the meeting about taking to time to check on tents and patrol boxes. PL said go for it. When middle son found out, he decided that would be a good thing to do as well. Since he couldn't ask his PL, he assumed it would be OK since he is APL. They found issues with the brand new, only been on 1 troop camp out and borrowed for a family camp out( that turned into a troop camp out after the families went whitewater rafting). BUT they took responsibility for making sure their patrols have what they need for the upcoming camp out. That is what I want my sons to get out of Scouting, more than even earning Eagle: seek and take responsibility to serve others. As for youngest, he finished up everything for his Parvuli Dei religious award. All he needs now is his DL and CM's signatures, and off the application goes. I needed this today.
  2. 4 points
    I didn't say boys, I said good old boys, and you know what that means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_ol'_boy And I will add that any access to minors comes only with the permission of mom and dad, they are not the enemy. Scouting does belong to mom and dad and siblings, and we all have our roles and opportunities within the organization. I have three children in Scouting and I absolutely have influence in our troop. I have more influence than older Scouters whose children grew up and left decades ago, because it is my family and my kids. Scouting exists today because of our membership. No kids, no program. I have a lot of influence as a current parent and Cub leader because I'm connected to Cubs, I can help Troops recruit cubs, I make introductions between our Arrow of Light den leader and Scoutmasters, I tell young boys (and a couple girls) that when they get older, maybe they'll be a Boy Scout, like that's the best thing ever. I help create opportunities for Troops to work with our Cubs, which helps give boys volunteer hours and lets young scouts see the upper level program. I have relationships with a lot of families with children because my family has children. Our Lions now, if we are doing things well, will be new Scouts six years from now. So I am thinking 10 years ahead, not 20 years behind. All of this is very valuable to Scouting. Now, is that bad? Because the organization cannot run on old Scouters alone. We have to work together and if you don't like working with families, you'll have no one to work with. Here's an article about sexism in the middle east: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/may/02/majority-of-men-in-middle-east-north-africa-survey-believe-a-womans-place-is-in-the-home
  3. 4 points
    I think sharing a similar sense of humour is important in a relationship. In which case, luckily, it seems qwazse and WinsconsinMomma are not in a relationship, as far as we can tell.
  4. 4 points
    It might be a much more valuable and Scout-like lesson to talk to boys about what they should give in a relationship, more than what they can get. What makes a relationship a win-win for a husband and wife, and there's a lot more to it than he's the paycheck and she's the maid. If I heard that you were teaching my boys about your vision of spouse selection we'd be having a conversation where I'd be asking you to stick to the Scout Handbook. You are welcome to have that conversation with your own children all day long but it's not your scope of practice to train mine in that subject matter. I have some suggestions for my children about choosing a mate, but they are for my family only.
  5. 4 points
    Rural India and the Middle East are extremely sexist. In addition to this dowry burning, in parts of rural India women are expected to burn themselves to death, and celebrated for it, when their husbands die. All of this is treating women as property https://www.smh.com.au/world/india-burning-brides-and-ancient-practice-is-on-the-rise-20150115-12r4j1.html https://scroll.in/article/874185/decades-after-india-outlawed-sati-a-temple-to-a-victim-in-bundelkhand-draws-scores-of-devotees I think it serves everyone better to make sure the boys and girls can manage their own cooking and chores. I think demeaning the criteria is better than demeaning women.
  6. 3 points
    If the Patrol Method is dead in any unit, it was dying long before Family Scouting got here. Units I see today still effectively using the Patrol Method are doing so because they fostered a PM culture over many years and continue to do so. Units that stop using PM likely had other barriers to continuing on with it long ago. I don't know they story with your local unit(s), but as a possibly over-generalized comment I think blaming Family Scouting for the woes of any particular unit's shortcomings or failures is a cop-out. Patrol Method has been a struggle to maintain for many units for decades. Units that wanted to keep it going have done so, in spite of the hurdles. Blaming Family Scouting, a programing initiative that is primarily focused on the Cub level, for any failure of the Patrol Method seems misplaced.
  7. 3 points
    Here's the thing, it's not funny. My husband had a Chemistry professor who told him something like, "the taller they are, the more fun they are to ride." Is that a joke? Is it funny? Is it Chemistry? This is the kind of garbage that goes around and it's inappropriate.
  8. 3 points
    For some reason reading this exchange I've found myself humming a certain Monty Python song. All together now "I'm a lumberjack and I'm ok...."
  9. 3 points
    While I like the convenience of ordering online, I suggest you not teach this to the Scouts. I suggest you teach them the skills of planning, pricing and buying "the old fashioned way" for a few reasons. Partly so they know how to do it without the aid of the computer/website and spreadsheets that calculate everything for them. But also because preparing for a campout should be a patrol activity. It is an opportunity for a couple guys to spend time working together to achieve a goal. It is interesting and often funny to watch a few 13 year olds shopping for a menu they prepared. This often involves someone lobbying to add chips or cookies that were not on the menu and someone else realizing that they have not collected enough money for chips or cookies. And if that doesnt convince you, please consider this quote often attributed to Baden Powell - the Scoutmaster should 'never do for a boy what the boy can do for himself'. In this case, it seems like you are solving a problem that doesnt yet exist and that may or may not actually be a problem for the Scouts. If they find meal planning and grocery shopping to be a hassle they will find a way to improve it. And knowing teenagers that way will surely involve technology.
  10. 3 points
    USA Archery Level 1 instructor level training is all you need (minimum) in order to be an Archery merit badge counselor: "Archery. Archery activities must be supervised by a BSA National Camping School–trained shooting sports director or USA Archery or National Field Archery Association instructor, or by someone who has been trained by one of the three; or alternatively, the activities may be supervised by someone with at least Level 1 training in the operation of an archery range from USA Archery, NFAA, or an equivalent."
  11. 3 points
    I always wash my things thoroughly after outdoor activities (I am not a fan of mud or grime), so my first sash has remained pretty clean and bright through the years. A clean sash may be a sign of a lazy Arrowman, OR it may simply be a sign of a fastidious one.
  12. 3 points
    Call the DE or Committee Commissioner, explain the situation and ask if they know of a troop that can loan a couple of tents, stoves and cooking equipment. There may even be a Chartering Organization with a defunct troop looking to move their equipment. Barry
  13. 3 points
    We teach our scouts that leadership is not only about making good decisions, but taking responsibility, reflecting, and accepting the consequences from our bad ones. The scout in the first case, appears to be applying those leadership lessons, while the scout in the second case does not. Was it is his marijuana? And if so, he had it either to smoke or sell? If I gave a SM conference to the first scout, the discussion would be long and focused on what he has learned in scouting about being a man and a father. If I gave a SM conference to the second scout, the discussion be about the Scout Oath and Law. Both scouts need our kind and helpful support. My $0.02,
  14. 2 points
    Wow, I've not heard my scouting experience put in the context of a half century. I gotta think about that, lots of mix emotions.
  15. 2 points
    Firstly, I fail to see what the cultures in India and other middle eastern nations have to do with criteria for choosing a spouse in America, unless perhaps the region in which you reside has a significant number of immigrants from such areas. As far as I am able to ascertain no one here has called for suttee, or dowery, or even the acceptance of sexist and demeaning jokes or stories. Secondly, scouting belongs to the scouts. Not the siblings, not the parents, not even the Scouters with half a century of experience, The scouts.
  16. 2 points
    Been there, done that. Get lots of head bobbing and it never gets done. Gets to the point when parents just drop at the door and go. They want to have their Scout in a great program but they don't want to have to give up any time or effort to support it. I call them out in emails, in Troop Meetings, Court of Honor's, you name it. When enough events get cancelled, maybe then they will step up. I should not be working more hours in a week at my volunteer job (Scouts) than I do at my paid job.
  17. 2 points
    A new Webelos leader, yay! Welcome to the club; we have the most fun position in all of Scouting! I may be biased of course. There are a few things I suggest you read as soon as you can; fortunately much of it is online. First of all, read the entire Webelos Handbook start to finish. Of all the books for you to be familiar with, that is the most important. Then there is the Cub Scout Leader Book, which goes over all the basics of the Cub Scout program. The print copy can be found at your local Scout Shop or here https://www.scoutshop.org/cub-scout-leader-guide-646725.html and the digital copy can be procured here https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HM7JVHT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_ep_dp_aqrTBbCZM688E The Webelos Den Leader Guide will have everything you need to plan and execute your weekly den meetings, and it is also full of useful information and aids for the program in its extensive appendices. Print copy available at your local Scout Shop or here https://www.scoutshop.org/webelos-den-leader-guide-646724.html or you can get a digital copy here https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HMFF853/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_ep_dp_VprTBb72MZ4P8 These last ones will go pretty deep into all the rules and regulations, but they DO matter, so you'll want to be somewhat familiar with them at least as you begin, with the hope being you'll have a solid grasp of their content as soon as you can invest some time in reading them thoroughly. And fortunately, they are all available for free online. They are the Guide to Safe Scouting https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/gss/toc/ the Guide to Advancement https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/33088.pdf and the Guide to Awards and Insignia https://www.scouting.org/resources/info-center/insignia-guide/ There is even a full webpage on the Scouting site dedicated to Den Meeting resources. Find it here: https://www.scouting.org/programs/cub-scouts/den-meeting-resources/ Obviously you don't have to read all of this TODAY, but whenever you have the time, try to work your way through them all. If you can be comfortably familiar with all of these resources, you will be miles ahead of many other leaders. Good luck to you!
  18. 2 points
    A rare creature that some of us have actually seen. Unlike of course the mysterious Unit Executive which is a mythical creature which has only been rumored to have been seen by some scouters that say they caught rare glimpses of one, but it was always a foggy nite and if you ask me their tales are often a little far fetched.
  19. 2 points
    No, blanket announcements of "I need a volunteer to . . ." don't work very well. Conversely, putting people on the spot is not my favorite technique either. One has to be a little devious but if you know the adults you should have a good idea of who may or may not be a good candidate for the position you are seeking to fill (or task to be accomplished). It takes some skill but get with that person one-on-one, talk sincerely about the need and how you think that person would be a great asset and nine times out of ten you close the deal - no public shaming required.
  20. 2 points
    G2SS May 2018 All Scouts registered in troops are eligible to participate in troop or patrol overnight campouts, camporees, and resident camps. Patrol Activities—A Scout patrol may participate in patrol activities. Two-deep adult leadership is required. Patrol Leaders Handbook (2010) Most patrol activities take place within the framework of the troop. However, patrols may also set out on day hikes, service projects, and overnighters independent of the troop and free of adult leadership as long as they follow two rules: • The Scoutmaster approves the patrol activity. • The patrol activity does not interfere with any troop function. So yes, the rules have changed (didn't find a 2017 Patrol Leader's Handbook on-line). Now, when I was a Scoutmaster I had the boys ask to do an outing that wasn't necessarily allowed by the G2SS. No, not rob a bank but things like laser tag or paintball. What I told the boys was that those activities were not sanctioned by the BSA but if they wanted to plan it out and even invite me, I'd be game but I made it clearly understood to them and their parents that it wasn't a Scout activity. Would I do that today for an overnight activity? Probably not. But a few years ago, I had one patrol (older boys) do a "patrol outing" of sorts where they camped out of earshot and sight line from the remainder of the troop, we were hosting Webelos Scouts, and the boys absolutely loved it. I made the mile walk around 9:30 PM to see if everything was kosher and then again around 7:30 AM just as a check. It really fostered youth leadership and they talked about that outing for years as one of their favorites. You have to know your boys and I'm a believer that the more you put trust in them, the more they will reward you for that trust. I'm sure it was a liability issue for the BSA but it's sad they took the patrol option away.
  21. 2 points
    That's the age I went on my first week long scout summer camp, with my parents, dad the scout leader, mum running the stores, and looking after me. My memories of it are patchy at best. I know I knocked around with another couple of leader's kids, and the farmer's field we were in had a damp bit that may have been a pond in winter, and a hollow tree in it. I would guess the scouts were all in patrols, as they usually were, and did all their cooking and stuff themselves, as well as coming together for activities and games and so on. I guess it's possible, probably even, that I wandered over to the patrols, they let me poke the fire, and kept an eye on me. It might not have been the ideal, but it was what it was, it was that or not enough adults to run summer camp. Oh, and lest we forget, Baden Powell took his 9 year old nephew to Brownsea for his experimental camp, though if memory serves, he was designated as BP's "orderly". So taking kids on camp is nothing new.
  22. 2 points
    I’m still not seeing anything except some inartful phrasing on Bryan’s part to suggest that anything beyond Cubs is going to have a family-camping focus. The core Scouts BSA program is not changing. Besides: Most teens I know would rather lock themselves in their room for a year than go on “scheduled fun family time” with their parents and siblings.
  23. 2 points
    Are you referring to temporary patches as worn on the right pocket? Well, I just sew them on when I want to wear them on my uniform. When I want to switch out the old patch for a new one, I remove the former with a small seam-ripper, then I sew the new one right on the pocket (by hand so that I can still use the pocket). The whole process takes only 10 - 20 minutes depending on size of the patch. So far, none have ever fallen off my shirt. So, my experienced recommendation is: the ol' needle n' thread.
  24. 2 points
    Even if there were studies that showed that girls were, on average, paid more attention to organizational details, that doesn't remove the worth of the patrol method for the girls. Firstly, because averages are just that. There is also a broad distribution, for both girls and boys, of instinctive organizational skill levels. Some girls are a lot less naturally organized than some boys. Also patrols are not merely about learning to be organized. They are also about learning leadership in a kid-sized setting. They are about having the opportunity to try, and to mess up, and to overcome those mistakes --- all in a kid-sized setting. I would argue that the differences between boys and girls mean that single gender patrols are the way to go --- so that the girls don't end up doing the cooking while the boys do something else. Of course, since the troops won't be coed, neither will the patrols.
  25. 2 points
    Agree on Family Scouting Sadly many have lost the focus of Scouting in the rush to "Family" scouting. Scouting was NEVER intended or designed to be a "Family" event or activity. The dens were designed to be "patrols" with the Den Leader as the patrol leader. They are supposed to do things as a group WITHOUT Mom and Dad and family being involved. Go off and do stuff that they experience from THEIR perspective. Over time the family camping, the siblings, etc have lessened that and made it more the circus that Cubs is. Now we can see that creeping into Scouts. We have more focus on advancement and less focus on the journey and the experience. Unfortunately I expect the planned extensions for Eagles will not be the only coming change to requirements.
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