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The kid probably passed out with his foot on the accelerator. The trailer may have very well saved his life. I know far too many young adults for whom it ended differently. -
LOL ... Yes. "always" is too extreme. ... So ... For the last 20 years or so... and my council definitely ... Your whole experience is why the BOR instructions include "review". If someone has already checked the dates, signatures, etc, then the BOR "review" part is mostly moot. With ScoutBook advancement reports, "review" is even more almost moot. -
By Eagle94-A1 · Posted
That is incorrect. Councils verifying the records of the Scout prior to the EBOR is relatively recent in BSA's history. Like since the late 1990s/early 2000s. Maybe even later as my memory is going. But I do remember I was denied my Eagle because the council records were messed up. Had to use my BSHB and the signatures in it to correct the councils records, and get my Eagle. Same thing happened to several of my friends, as well as several of my Scouts. And I do not know of any council checking Eagle project paperwork. In none of the councils I have been in, have Eagle Project paperwork. That has always been the responsibility of the EBOR. Now paperwork is the responsibility of the council, and they do check it. BUT the unit leadership now has access to those records, and can correct them. In my neck of the woods, unit leadership usually double checks the records prior to printing the application, and sending it to council for their approval. Which IMHO makes council approval redundant now. -
For Eagle ... that was always done at the council office by the person who confirms the scout is ready for an Eagle board of review. ... they check things like are there enough days between each rank ... did the scout get the eagle project proposal approved ... was the eagle project completed and signed off by SM and beneficiary ... were all the merit badges recorded. Is the scout currently registered in the troop? By the time the EBOR was scheduled (for our council), there no "requirements" to check. For lower ranks, the unit advancement chair should do the same thing. Are there enough days between ranks? Did the MBs get signed off by a registered MBC? Did the SMC happen? BOR checking "requirements" is about paperwork being right and not "quality" of how the scout fulfilled each individual requirement. If there is a question about quality, then the BOR separately addresses the quality issue with the SM / MBC after and outside of the BOR.
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By Eagle94-A1 · Posted
Sadly the Powers That Be (PTB) in their more public communications do use the term "celebration" as well as saying the EBOR is not a "interview. https://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2018/11/07/an-eagle-scout-board-of-review-isnt-a-job-interview-its-a-celebration/ While they briefly mention, "While part of the board’s responsibility is to ensure that requirements have been met...," they later state " This candidate is by all intents and purposes an Eagle Scout when arriving at the board of review...Therefore, make the Scout’s Eagle board of review a celebration of their achievement." My question is, how can you "ensure that requirements have been met," but consider the person "an Eagle Scout when arriving at the board of review?" Now, I know that by asking questions about their experiences in Scouting, you can see if they really did the work.
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