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    Traveled the world for the government

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  1. As I was working hard in the office, I had a chance to visit the toothoftimetraders.com site. Under the surplus gear tab, there are a couple of items they have reduced and good for any scout. Just recently, they added tents to the site. As the crews finish their treks soon, more gear may be available. Please keep an eye oven for goodies.
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    Patrol cook and chef kits now

    With all the recent talk about woodbadge indoors and whether units are using the patrol method, I was thinking about what patrols are using now for cook and chef kits. They are not offered for sale within the BSA. Philmont uses two large cooking pots for cooking, but what are your scouts using in lieu of availability of the cook and chef kits? I was never one for the aluminum mess kits that burnt food, wing nuts fell off and lost, and the bean pot always spilled. What are your patrols using for patrol cooking?
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    Bullying incident - need advice

    After a good read and advice given on this, I only have one recommendation for you. Stay on your son's side of this, let an "independent counsel" (sorry for the term) dig into the matter. If each party gets as upset as some parents at a little league game, that counsel will have to be able to answer for any findings. May be I missed it in the posts, but I didn't see a lot of detail for us to know more.
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    Units for disabled youth

    I'm to the thinking that what suits the scout is best for them. I was a scout in a troop with a wheelchair bound scout. We all learned to oversee it, cut him no slack, and he felt no different. It worked for us. I was a SM in a troop with one boy with cerebral palsy. Same thing. Probably a bad comparison and not to offend, but I would rather have those scouts in my unit rather than a bed wetter no one wants to share a tent with. That wetting problem seems to be harder than any physical challenge. I think it depends also on the adults and how the unit can cope with a variety, multiple, or extreme cases. They are trained, equipped, and mentally prepared to handle the situations. I see the benefit of both. Let the scout and parents decide, but keep the option available.
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    Sea Shell necklace

    As I was thinking about all the issues with the items above, I had to laugh at the thought of the oversized 6" ranks, to include Eagle Scout that I can only think are jacket patches. Imagine seeing one of those on a uniform. If those oversized ranks don't go on the back of jacket, and officially only one patch on the back I know, where the heck do you put them. I have seen uniform sized eagle scout ranks sewn or glued on packs, book covers, notebooks, pen sets, neckerchiefs, hats, and other items. I would never grab up another eagle scout and tell them to cut or rip it off the item as it was not allowed. It took years to earn, they are proud of it, gets younger scouts to talk about it, and has a better effect being seen rather than buried in box only to be replaced with a knot. My two cents.
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    Sea Shell necklace

    Like Chris 1 says above, don't tell "Heartland of America" or "Ozark Trails" Councils, they can't wear their mic-o-say necklace. You would be amazed what a scout or scouter would do for one little bead. OA can have some beads in there also. Cubs know this pride from beads and arrow points. As a roundtable commissioner, I gave out locomotive-engine beads to those "trained" leaders for their necklace. Each attendee to a roundtable received a bead/item. As necklaces got rather long, we found other ways to display them, like attaching to a coup stick or hiking stave. I've used beads and necklaces with scouts and cubs for years. Every event received a different bead, or item. This is similar to the "arrow of light" arrow with bands crested on the shaft. I like to use orange beads for tigers, yellow for wolves, etc. OA may get red or white feathers. On a final note, I find it interesting how many scouters fault the necklaces, quote the uniform guide, but still refer to class A or class B uniforms. Please don't be too critical of motivational practices when you can't understand what a field uniform is. I've seen really great scouts in ragged clothes and hand-me-down uniforms, and really poor scouters in highly pressed, correctly-placed-item uniforms.
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    Quick: Are Crocs closed toe enough for camp?

    Since it was brought up, our council's camping rules for camps specifically talks about Crocs are ok at the waterfront and showers. This is for council owned properties. It also says no sheath knives in camps. National doesn't chime in on either, but GTSS is a must with intent met. As I scouted in Panama, Hawaii, Canada, and Switzerland, I am still a proponent for a machete. How this differs from a sheath knife, I don't know besides size. We even used them to cut snow blocks in Alaska for igloos. We used to carry one machete per patrol. No thumbs or toes hacked off so far (knock on wood).
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    Lightweight Rain Jackets

    Frogg Toggs or retreat the jacket. I personally retreat my jackets when they don't repel anymore.
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    Policy on going through scout totes

    Inspecting gear with scouts present, able to correct deficiencies, and looking for cleanliness, compliance, and serviceability is totally acceptable and expected. Done on a whim, in secret, or as a good idea is not what we want scouts to emulate. This inspection is best done in privacy as easy as behind a vehicle with the parents at the pick up point. They can take the prohibited stuff, have knowledge of what the scout has, and in semi-privacy, stash the polka dot drawers without having a public showing.
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    Policy on going through scout totes

    Referring back to the original posting topic, it was about whether going through a tote without the owner's presence is acceptable. To be blunt...no. I wonder how that leader would react if scouts went through his gear while he was away. I bet he would go crazy. If there was an immediate risk to life, limb, or eyesight, maybe it would be ok only to eliminate the risk. Even then, not doing in solo or without owners present is wrong. In my 30 plus years in law enforcement, searches were always an issue. With the owner present can save a lot of time when you tell them what you are looking for. I won't get into the legalities of this leader. I was thinking how the first scout law applies to this situation. Seems the leader is not trustworthy in the eyes of the scouts. In my day as a smart-mouth scout, I probably would have asked him for me to go through his gear, or tell him we are putting two scouts to watch his actions. I think I have outgrown that attitude, maybe. The meds are one thing, but OMG a phone at camp, scouts BSA is going to crumble (sarcasm).
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    Religious Letter for Eagle Rank written by a parent

    This is a touchy issue with me as two brother scouts in the 70s, that recruited me, never made eagle as they didn't go to church. They were the best scouts around that I knew of. One even helped me when I broke my leg in three places...longer story for another thread. They had all the skills, BSA gear, summer camps, and OA participation. That one active attendance "duty to god" piece kept them out. It was disheartening to see them scout from 12-18 yrs old, earn all the good stuff, and turned away. No leader or adult came to their aid. That was the late 70s, but times change or do they?
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    First Aid Kit Gadget: Tick Remover

    Tick keys work around here. Almost as essential as well...the essentials. Its like a knife, ask a group of scouts to raise their hand if they have one, and all hands go up.
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    Keep the Mosquitos Away When Camping

    In the south, mosquitos were out even in January. Mild temperatures allow for easy winters and hearty bugs. While regular sprays work mostly, we used to put Avon "skin so soft" on and it worked great. I don't know if it is even around any more. While at a stationary site, a Thermacell is now the going option. Most campers and hunters in L.A (Lower Alabama) carry these and consider them an essential. Permethrin is sprayed on clothes for ticks and chiggers. Chiggers are the worst. This yankee growing up in Michigan didn't know what a tick or chigger did until entering Alabama. For those without this critter, chiggers are the number one evil. Seed ticks follow, and big old wood/dog ticks are easy. As for buying permethrin, as described above, getting it at a tractor supply type store in 16 or 32 oz and mixing it is the way to go. I have a 3 gallon sprayer that makes it easy.
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    Religious Letter for Eagle Rank written by a parent

    This is going to be touchy issue. My first response is for a parent/grandparent/guardian not to write the religious letter for their child. You already support the child and it shows if they made it this far. Whether an "active" church goer, or not, there are other ways duty to god can be displayed. One of the most generic in a troop could be the troop chaplain position. Used correctly, that could be the only duty done. We never asked denomination or attendance records of the troop chaplain. Level of devotion and duty is measured differently in everyone. Some showboats have to show and tell everyone what they do and when. I know some quiet professionals that are the best at their craft, as others always tell of their skills and efforts. You don't have to be in the first pew to believe. Some of the most religious people I've seen have been the most quiet and humble. It all comes down to what that scout believes and does. Their view of religion will grow, morph, and can change with age, life, and experience. What and how they deliver duty will change from time to time. No easy right or wrong in this topic, except for recommending the parent/grandparent/guardian seek assistance from a religious leader.
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    Cell Phones at Summer Camp

    This takes me back to boy scout sheath knives and hatchet on belts. We had similar issues back then. Although different and uses differ, my weathered experience tends to lean toward allowing them. The best thing I suggest is educate, enforce, and praise limited use of phones and electronics. I've seen units set aside 15 minutes of call times when parents and scouts were available. We have parents as "separated" and needing the contact as the scout. Phones are not going away, better to fnd a way to work positive into our programs.