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    • No need to apologize at all!  My post should've been clearer to avoid any confusion.
    • I always have a few scouts (out of my 11) that cannot participate, because of sports and jobs for part of the year. If they are SPLs, they are good at handing off the position to someone who can make the meetings/campouts. While a scout has limited participation, they do show up on occasion and contribute to the troop via a position of responsibility. Mostly it is training younger scouts first aid, how to cook, etc. The more I let the scouts run their own troop and let them make their own decisions, the more they get something out of the positions of responsibility. That is the spirit of the requirement.  In Montana, we have tourist season from Memorial Day to Labor Day, then hunting season in the Fall. My troop tries to camp in the spring and later fall to avoid these seasons, but it is getting hard on this old man to camp in the snow and cold. My troop does not close down for the summer. We still meet to prepare for summer resident camps and some and 1/2 short term camps. 
    • Gotcha. Thanks for saying that. I'm with you. It's incredibly frustrating. My wife has had enough of listening to me about it so I lay it off on one of my brothers and two of my sisters. Yup. I've probably spoken too much about this already, I guess. For not having to put together a full blown case to bring to court, with all the tedious, expensive and time consuming components of discovery and all, I couldn't agree more. It's a pretty slick 40%. Thus, I'm trying to go it alone. I'm an attorney, but not a litigator and especially not one who's done a bunch of sexual abuse cases. That said, some of the claimant attorneys were well into the process of bringing civil actions when the cases were stayed by the bankruptcy filing. If you get 40% from 25, 50 or 1000's of clients, that seems outrageous to me, especially if all it entailed was the client(s) filling out a form and submitting it to the court. That's an oversimplification to make my point, but still... I understand. I apologize if I overreacted, as well. Multiple things. I'm sure someone else will better detail what they are. Hm. Immoral because of...? Rate? Market willingness to pay it? Lack of access by all of society? As I've said before, attorneys aren't the only people with high rates or compensation tied to commission. I guess you have indictments for many sectors of the market economy? On the access to the best and the brightest, I tend to agree that it is unfortunate. Immoral? I don't know. A discussion for another thread or forum. As I've said before, this inequity stretches across medicine (some doc's are better than others and I'm not saying access is denied to those who can't pay), accounting, broking, architecture, construction, personal coaching, fishing guides, landscapers and so on and so forth. I drove an unsafe tin can of a car as my school commuter because I couldn't afford a tank of a Mercedes or SUV. (A Subaru Justy. Look it up. Effectively a Yugo made by Subaru.) I sold it when my wife got no more than bumped by a substantive vehicle and it looked like a beer can I smashed against my forehead after one too many. We drove an unsafe car because that's all we could afford. 
    • We are not accusing specific individuals.  It's the whole situation.  Anyone can feel emotionally connected and work their hearts out for $1000 per hour.  How about doing it for $100 per hour?  Ya definitely won't starve at that rate?  It's emotional for me because my sons worked as camp staff.   I think of their hard work ... often working wake-up to bed-time for minimum wage, effectively $4 per hour.   Or the lower level scouting staff that earns a fraction of their value.  ... OR ... The millions of BSA adult volunteers over the years that have not been paid and instead paid thousands to volunteer.  ... Think of it ... High point of membership was 7,000,000 youth (or so).  Over 100 years, say average one million new scouts per year.   Take 25% of that as registered adult leaders.   That's 25 million adult volunteers that worked for free.  ... CORRECTION ... that paid to volunteer and then paid again all their own expenses.  Now, consider the morality of billing $1000 per hour and convincing people you are driven by the wrongs done in the past.  
    • Absolutely agree.   The law can absolutely be a noble profession and extremely hard.   And some lawyers are absolutely just charging large sums when their clients can afford it and their clients agree.  I'm really not thinking this is the BSA situation though.  There is something completely immoral about this.
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