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Those were the standard (only, IIRC) BSA uniform socks through the seventies, up until the Oscar de la Renta uniforms came out in 1980 or 81. At that point we got the knee-high socks with the big red tops. And the red would eventually pull off.

He earned the merit badges before his 18th birthday. His Eagle BOR was after August 1. I don't see a problem with him receiving the palm. That the merit badges were earned before August 1, or that he turned 18 before August 1, is not relevant, IMO. If this had gone into effect 31 years earlier, I would have gotten a palm. But it didn't and I didn't. Such is life.

Recruit parents, aggressively as needed. Let them know you need their help in order to have a quality program for their sons. Also recruit within your CO. A good mix of both as mentioned above is ideal, IMO.

When I was a Scout, I would have straight up told him we want to move faster over rougher terrain than our adults are willing or able to hike. If I was held back by having to drag an adult along on every adventure, I probably wouldn't have stayed in the program very long.

Thank you for all the work you've put into Scouting over the years. I've got 21 years in Scouting, 13 (almost 14) as an "adult leader." (I put adult leader in quotes because I'm really just a Boy Scout who never grew up.)

Venturing requires at least one male and at least one female adult for coed crews and coed campouts. This was the rule in Exploring long before there was such a thing as Venturing. And it was as far back as I'm aware, the rule for coed Philmont crews. I assume if BSA makes Cub Scouts and/or Boy Scouts coed, the same rule will apply. As far as I can find, there's no rule against having an all-male youth crew with all female adults, or an all female youth crew with all male adults. But if you have boys and girls, you must have men and women. I've always found this mildly amusing. I

I was mildly opposed to letting women be Scoutmasters and Assistants back when that went down. I have since been privileged to work with some outstanding female Scouters who have changed my mind on the subject. But once we had male and female Scoutmasters and Assistants, and women in the OA I figured we should go completely coed. I'm surprised it hasn't happened long before now. The Girl Scouts are, I guess, the reason BSA hasn't done that. But GSUSA is not providing the program many girls want. And professional Scouters are all about numbers, numbers which have been declining since the

We have very few trained leaders. (Beyond the very basic training.) Our Council hasn't had NYLT in ten years. (Coming in August 2018.) No Wood Badge in almost that long. (Shooting for 2019.) Or Commissioners College in . . . maybe ever. (Scheduled in 2019, with the help of a couple of neighboring councils.)

I don't know if ILS-T is recorded anywhere. I know youth who've had it may wear the Trained patch under their badge of office. I don't want a bunch of people at NYLT who've never had any sort of orientation. I'm not going to kick 'em out, but I'd prefer that they've had some previous training. I didn't mean to side-track the conversation. I was just using that as an example of things we're doing at district or council level because it's not getting done at the unit level. We're working to improve our units, but in the mean time, we have a handful of people who are trying to pick up the sla

I agree. I was just thinking of ways the district could help. Thinking out loud, sort of. We have to do a lot of hand holding or we wouldn't have a lot of what we do have here. For example, ILS-T is supposed to be taught at the troop level. I'm helping teach it at as a council level event next weekend because very few of our troops are doing it. And it's a prerequisite for NYLT. I'm the Scoutmaster next year of the first NYLT this council has had in about 10 years. Sounds depressingly familiar.

Old pictures showing their journey through Scouting are very cool. This is from the same Eagle COH pictured above. These two young men started Scouting together and have remained friends. One has since moved away, but they each went to the other's Eagle ceremony.

Invite Eagle Scouts from your district and community. Whether they're involved in your troop or not, most are delighted to be able to attend an Eagle COH. This is from a recent Eagle COH I was honored to attend. Everyone on this stage is an Eagle Scout with the exception of the pastor (light blue shirt).

I've struggled with advancement records since I was a Scout in the eighties trying to get my Eagle when National had no record of some of my merit badges. I understand "out in the boonies." Most of my Scouting has been in rural districts. The District Advancement Committee is often just one person who deals mostly with approving Eagle projects and organizing Eagle BORs, in addition to his other duties as Scoutmaster or whatever. I'd like to encourage one person from each unit, or at least one from each town, to be a member of an actual District Advancement Committee. It would probably be

I'm on WB staff for the first time as Troop Guide. We just had our first staff training day. The course will be April-May 2018. Good group of people. It's something I've wanted to do for quite a while. I don't work with Scouts much. As a District Commissioner, I work with adults, who work with other adults, who work with Scouts. Yeah, I get to have fun with the boys, like running an event at our camporee or something like that. Several troops invite me to all their campouts, and I try to go when I can. But most of my Scouting is at Commissioner meetings, District Committee meetings

Got mine!

I'll be 49 in a couple of weeks and I recently ordered a BSA campaign hat. I'm going to be on Wood Badge staff in the spring, so I sorta need one. Been considering it for a while anyway.

When I was a Ranger, the "bearmuda triangle" was fromm the fire pit to the sump to the bear bags and back to the fire pit. Camping INSIDE that triangle was strongly discouraged.

I haven't even made it through the first page and I'm loving this discussion! Tonight at roundtable I'm talking about the Aims of Scouting, and lightly touching on the Methods. My audience will include a new Scoutmaster who focusses 80% of the time on merit badges (for a troop made up almost entirely of Scouts who just crossed over from Webelos about a year ago), and another new Scoutmaster who is experieced in Cubs but not in Boy Scouts. Some thoughts from the posts here will probably come up in discussion tonight. Mike Eagle Scout and former Philmont Ranger who has gotten caught up in t

WOW. Yes, IH appoints COR. Lots of professional scouters believe they're in charge. Sometimes they need to be shown otherwise. At every level, district, council, area, regional, and national, there is a Key 3 of one professional and two volunteers. The three are (at least theoretically) equal - at the same level on the organisational flowchart. You need your District Chairman in this, or you need a new one. You also need the District Commissioner. District Chair should have a working relationship with the Council President. Sama goes for the District Commissioner with the Council Commi

I'm with qwazse. But I do think you should consider the concerns brought up by David CO. I'll add that yes, you can have a den in one town that is part of a pack in another town. It's one of the things that was discussed in a class on rural Scouting at a recent Commissioners College. Mike District Commissioner in a fairly rural district.

I've met National Commissioner Charles Dahlquist several times and he was wearing one each time. Once I saw him wearing two.

I agree. My opinion (influenced by Philmont policy when I worked there in 1988 & 90) is that shoulder loops should match badge of office. I'm a District Commissioner and wear silver loops. But in addition to that, I've recently become a Crew Committee Chairman and an Assistant Cubmaster. I have purchased a set of the lighter green loops for a Venturing uniform and a set of blue loops for a shirt I'm going to put the Asst. Cubmaster badge on. I'll still wear my Commissioner insignia and silver loops most of the time. But when functioning specifically as a member of a unit, I'll wear

I have not read this whole thread. Been meaning to get around to it. Just commenting on a thing or two I have seen. Age ranges - I was in Scouts before the New Scout Patrol was a thing. Or at least it wasn't common in troops in my area and we never had one in my troop. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the concept of sticking all the youngest guys in one patrol. I see pros and cons. Not sure where I stand on the idea. Younger Scouts learned from older Scouts in their patrol how to set up tents, how to build a fire, how to cook, and so on. When I started out, we had 40+ Scouts at

I'm thankful I have not encountered this. I started in a rural district where there were not near enough volunteers to fill all the positions. When I started volunteering at the district level, they were happy to have me. When I moved to Circle Ten Council, I wanted to get involved and was immediately put to work. Within a week of moving there I was an ASM and a UC. I showed up at a district committee meeting just to see how things work here where there are lots of people and was immediately assigned to one of the operating committees. (WOW, they actually had a training committee, a camping co

How can such a great thread give me such a headache? The district is an extension of the council, as someone posted above. I live in a geographically large council. I drove 4 hours one-way to our council camp last weekend. It's hard for council people to be everywhere, so they have District Executives and district volunteers to help them cover the ground. Roundtables and training courses are a great place to exchange ideas with other scouters. I can read the material for myself without having to go somewhere to have someone tell me about it. But talking to others, asking and answering