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  1. Yeah. It's just a thought. I remember our local five and dime store had a four foot section for scout stuff. As a little boy, I remember looking at those things all the time. And the small section of knives and wood kits. By the way, thanks for the suggestion on the Magellan pants. I'm going to try some of the Magellan olive colored nylon switchbacks. I stopped buying BSA pants when I bought four of the centennial uniforms and the uniform pants all failed in the first year. The nylon switchbacks lasted forever. I'll try the Magellan and see how good they are. https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/magellan-outdoors™-mens-back-country-zipoff-nylon-pant?storeId=10151&catalogId=10051#repChildCatSku=102410529
  2. I'm not sure we connected on the idea, etc. It's not about access or 3rd party on-line distributors. It's about visibility in stores people visit anyway. It's about putting BSA stuff in stores that parents visit so they see BSA uniforms and stuff BEFORE deciding to have their kids in scouts. Right now, parents have to decide for their kids to be in scouts before they see scouting merchandise. It's also partially about asking what is the profit level of our council stores. I see them very busy in September with new cubs. But if you remove the patches and advancements from the equation (which could be done online or differently), I suspect the stores are barely breaking even. I'd really like to know the numbers.
  3. I was reading about Canfield's closing and comments about them losing income due to their BSA distributorship ending. http://www.omaha.com/money/canfield-s-sporting-goods-to-close-after-years-in-business/article_24f5e53c-daa0-11e7-868b-d3258181146a.html I remember when I was a kid that our local five and dime had a scout corner / section for stuff. I think that scout shelf marketed BSA to the moms that shopped there every week and helped show to those mom's that scouting was part of a normal childhood. When it was removed, it separated BSA from where moms shopped weekly. Now you only see scout shirts if you are in a scout shop or at a scout event. Now, you have to drive out of your way to a specific store to get scout stuff (or go online). The key is now you have to be decided to be in scouts before you see the materials. Before, you saw the materials before you decided to introduce scouts to your son. Heck, imagine three and four year olds walking with their moms seeing those scout uniforms. I think it would also help create interest in them too. I really wonder if we should return to the old model. Should BSA use established stores as distributors of BSA goods? Maybe Cub Scout uniforms and crafts at craft stores such as JoAnne Fabrics, Michael's and Hobby Lobby. Boy scout stuff at Cabelas, Dick's Sporting Goods and enough others to get a good presence. BSA would save on the physical stores and staff. BSA would gain huge visibility. BSA would still have their on-line presence. I just question the cost effectiveness of the stores. BSA has made several huge mistakes because of the weight and value they put behind the "BSA" brand. I think it was a huge mistake to make the BSA materials less visible in the community. If anything, you want the opposite. Get it out there far and wide.
  4. Told to Troop Guide: Dad makes me come here.

    Often, scouts say "my dad made me" when they are bored or stressed. Kids don't know always how to express themselves and often don't communicate the real issues. Parents often tell their kids they have to do something. Sitting at home online playing games is easy and automatic. But it's also not acceptable to many parents. Sometimes that comes out as "My dad made me". I know one scout who is emotionally and socially stunted. He's getting better, but he'll always be a bit off. When stressed, he'll say his dad makes him be there. But we can also clearly see the benefit and growth he's experiencing. We can also see that many parts of the program he enjoys. So, I take that comment in the context of his growth and the fun he does have.
  5. What is quality control in Scouting

    You are right. I never said it was perfect. It's just if you look for some documented element of BSA's program that exists for quality control purposes, it's the BOR ... and letting bad troops die. I really don't see other quality control mechanisms. JTE maybe, but it's mostly ineffective. Thorns and roses is a great tool when you can solicit real content. I just don't see it taught by BSA as part of the program structure.
  6. What is quality control in Scouting

    Quality control ? BSA quality control is to let scouts and families vote with their feet. Units die if they go astray and it drives parents away. If units go astray and scouts and their parents stay and the unit successfully recruits enough to keep alive, then it's a good quality unit. Nope ... Training ... BSA training is introductory. It's not meant to produce effective leaders implementing the same program in the same way. Nope ... Commissioners ... BSA commissioners are helpful, but not a day-to-day quality control. Nope ... BSA Oversight ... BSA exercises effectively no oversight of their units. BSA staff and district volunteers will NOT reach into the workings of individual units. Maybe ... COR ? ... Probably the closest chance to quality control, but there is really little mechanism designed into scouting for the COR to use other than generally watching how the program works. Yes ... Scout at the board of review ... The scout is supposed to give feed back to the adults at his rank BORs on how the program is working. Is it meeting his needs? Is it fun? Is he learning? What can / should change? What are the problems ? IMHO, the BOR is often poorly used as a feedback quality control loop. BUT, that's one of the main purposes of the BOR.
  7. I've heard that reason mentioned multiple times too.
  8. Does your Troop have dues?

    Every troop that I personally know has dues. Usually, it's more about knowing if someone is active then it is about financing the program.
  9. POR review

    I wanted to make one more comment. It's about philosophy. Scouting is person-to-person. Scouting is doing and interacting. I really fear checklists changing a relaxed talk into a bureaucratic performance review. Troop committees are not corporate human resources. It's a similar argument against MB workbook. As I believe the best MB counseling occurs sitting on the grass leaning against a tree, the best POR review happens with the SM at camp during sunset as part of a friendly relaxed chat. Not only do you NOT need a checklist. Checklists damage the experience.
  10. POR review

    I get scared when I see discussion of checklists and evaluation criteria. IMHO, this is more a power issue and a way for adults to justify their position and also a way to insert themselves into the process. I'd highly recommend reading GTA and then BSA advancement news and other sources. BSA GTA section 4.2.3.4 ... https://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/33088.pdf BSA Advancement news ... https://www.scouting.org/Home/BoyScouts/AdvancementandAwards/Advancement.aspx I think the best comment comes from the Feb 2012 BSA advancement news ... https://www.scouting.org/filestore/advancement_news/512-075_Feb.pdf "In any of these scenarios if the youth makes a reasonable effort to fulfill the duties described, the requirement should be considered fulfilled." IMHO, the best way to evaluate PORs is for the scout and the SM to talk about it during the scout's SMC. It's the natural time to talk about how the scout his helping the troop and the natural place to sign off on the POR.
  11. When does your PLC meet?

    4th Monday of month. No troop meeting that night. Only PLC. Otherwise, same place and time as troop meeting. Consistency.
  12. Making a good merit badge clinic

    I'm quoting Barry's post as he has a very good answer. He's exactly right concerning concerning the overall MB program purpose and approach. With that said though, Barry correctly describes the structure around a merit badge course without addressing the meat. The meat is what do you do in the course? Think of yourself as a presenter / entertainer trying to hold the interest of a crowd. They don't have to be there. They don't have to earn the badge. Will they be glad they spent the time with you? Will they leave energized about the topic ? Will they leave with more knowledge or new insights ? If someone asks them what they learned or about their experience, how will they answer? The worst thing a MB counselor can do is walk the MB requirements point by point. Find an approach. How you would want to introduce a new person to the subject A way to make the MB subject interesting THEN Map the requirements to parts of your course and your time with the scout. Extend and add as needed It's important to remember A MBC must make sure the requirements were covered in the same way a person must breath. Breathing does not mean you have an interesting life Breathing does not mean every breath is as deep and rich A MBC should find a way to inspire and draw interest to the subject I fully agree the MB program structure should grow maturity and independence and teach scouts to complete what they start. But similar, a MBC has a responsibility to be a useful resource to the scout. If the scout approaches you about a MB and you are a subject expert, fine. You don't need to develop a course. The one-on-one (or 2-on-1 really) nature lends itself to directly working together. But, if you offer a course, you owe it to the scout to do more than just walk the requirements one-by-one. You owe the scout an inspiring, rewarding experience. Otherwise, it's better to NOT offer the course as it will damage his whole view of the MB program and earning future MBs. Example ... Some of the most rewarding MBs my sons have earned. Archaeology ... Going to a state park where the park ranger showed the scouts in detail is archaeology dig site Photography ... Running around with cameras and later assembling collages of pictures Metal or welding ... Bending sheet metal and using a forge Chess ... Playing chess at camp at night during down pours Canoeing ... Weekend long canoe trip Archery ... Building and shooting arrows Oceanography ... Presenters were experts. Navy officer and deep sea researcher. A common threads Real authoritative expertise Great way to cover the topic
  13. Hello from Wisconsin!

    Welcome. Glad to see someone from WI not wearing a packer's jersey in their picture.
  14. I agree. The "constitutes an aid" is unclear. It's also not part of the "requirement". It's part of the clarification. IMHO, the 2007 G2SS clarified the "aid" in the next sentence. "Walking in from shallow water, easing in from the edge or down a ladder, pushing off from side or bottom, and gaining forward momentum by diving do not satisfy this requirement." It also appears in the changing direction section where it is "without any push off or other aid". I just don't see a Facemask as a big accommodation. It's similar to eye googles or a nose plug. ON THE GOOD SIDE !!!! ... I really wish BSA had more documents like what we see in G2SS and a few others where they parse the statements given to the scout for the adult leaders and staff. Then, they give clarifying explanations for the adults / staff to use to interpret the statements. IMHO, I think this should be done for ALL BSA requirements.
  15. I trust that you saw "without any aid". So I kept looking ... I have not found it yet. BSA Scouting.org - Summary of Aquadics Safety - http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/HealthandSafety/GSS/gss02.aspx BSA Scouting.org - Guide To Safe Scouting - http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/34416.pdf ... page 9. BSA Scouting.org - 2017 Aquatic staff guide - http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/2017_aquatic_%20staff_guide.pdf ... only refers to the change of direction must happen in deep water without any push off or other aid.
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