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I'm going to quote the second Doctor,aka the Hobo, ''I see you've made some changes. I don't like them.''

BW, In Calico's defense, he's in the same school I'm in: see a problem work to solve it. Challenge is that sometimes there are too many problems and not enough folks. Also another thing to consider, some units are smooth running ships with an abundance of leaders who can help out on the district . Other units, are barely surviving. My son's troop is growing, but we are having growing pains.

I ditto what Chisnos said. While they are suppose to work on one badge at a time like Huey said, because we are transitioning from one program to the other, adapt, improvise, and overcome. We are going to make mistakes implementing this new program.

While I'm not the training chair, I do help with training. Especially since the current chair has 0 Boy Scout leader expereince, but is cathcing on pretty fast. since he is a troop committee member now. And I think that's part of the problem in my neck of the woods, you have the same people doing multiple jobs and we are burning out, becoming jaded, etc. Take the training chair, CM, troop MC, and training chair. I'm an pack MC, ASM, CSRT commissioner, and district at large, doing CS program stuff and helping with training since I was the former training chair until Cubs took up a la

Actually i think the societal norm of "they are children until 26 years of age" and the rise of helicopter parents is the reason WHY we need to emphasize the patrol method. I'm tired of dealing with High schoolers parents, and especially the college students' parents, trying todo things for their "children" when they "child" is perfectly capable of doing it themselves.

I think part of the negativity towards redoing training is time. I'm involved with 2 units, plus the district in 2 different capacities.I average 2 meeting per week, plus 1.5 weekend activities per month. That doesn't include round ups and service projects. And that's just Scouts. When folks do not have a lot of time, they will prioritize their activities. Doing training that you've already done and use is on the lower end of priorities. As for "repetitive ed" Yes the nmedical field does require folks to get recertified in certain areas every year to two years. But as we will see next

Traditionally. RT is where updates, changes to program, etc are announced. That's why I mentioned it as a resource for trained leaders to get updates instead of making them go through training all over again.

Forgot to add that Roundtable is where the updated info should be given out

With the exception of CS leader training, and that is only because of the new program, everthing taught today was taught back in the day. Actually I would say back in the day was better because there was more emphasis on the patrol method. Today's SM Specific and ITOLS was a single course with an added component, the model troop meeting. When I did mine, it was an all day Saturday session, one weeknite troop meeting session, and a 3 day two nite camping session. It was not broken down like today. You had to attend all three sessions because you were put into a patrol for the entire time.

You'd be surprised. My training dates to the early 1990s, and one SM in my district has his from the1960s! I'm still around. the link i provided had all of the training codes for myscouting.org . i assume, and you know what happens when when you assume , that my.scouting.org would use the exact list. Does anyone remember when the national training committee stated that the only way to be considered "trained" for the trained strip, traing awards, and for JTE was to have the most current training? Then people complained and they decided that local training chairmen (read district and c

If memory serves, LDS Scouts must be aactive in their church's unit. They don'tget a choice. Idon't know if there is a penalty or punishment if LDS Scouts transfer to another troopor not, but that may needto be done. .

http://www.scouting.org/filestore/training/pdf/CurrentandPastTrainingCodes.pdf

DO NOT USE TH NEW CODES WITH THE ORIGINAL DATES!!!!! I wastold todo that by aDE and while it provided a quick fix at tthe time, 3. or 4years late it. caused major problems. Let me lookfor thetraaingcode lnk

It's possible. Remember anything he's done since June 1st can go towards the new AOL requirements.

I had a Lakota sit in on a Indian Lore MB class I did at a local MBC. She wanted to know how to teach the MB andalso learn about the local NC Indians.

There are 7 required Adventures, and each one is suppose to take about a month. Although the Duty to God requirement can probably be done concurrently with the others. So say 6 months.

If memory serves, their is a camp staff YPT that day camp and resident camp staffs have to take every year.

Please, please, PLEASE KEEP AT IT (caps for begging ) I tried for years to get my current chapter to go local, It was slowly getting there, then stopped when I had to concentrate on Cubs. However, our lodge has picked up on it. Some chapters still go "Hollywood" but more and more are going local, including mine.

Unofficially, I've heard of packs "modifying" the date the Webelos Badge was earned. Want to clarify this as I too am against pencil whipping requirements. Because national did not grandfather Webelos like they are going to do with Boy Scouts, but instead gave a clear cut "earn Webelos badge by May 31 2015 in order to use the (old) requirements," one CM I know put in the badge for May 31, 2015 so that they could continue with the old requirements so they would not have to buy a new book for 6-9 months only. The Webelos in question were finishing up the Webelos Badge the first week of Jun

A few comments, and not trying to be a P.I.T.B. Officially since he didn't earn the Webelos badge before May 31, 2015, HE MUST USE THE NEW REQUIREMENTS FOR AOL (underlining and caps are emphasis, not shouting) Unofficially, I've heard of packs "modifying" the date the Webelos Badge was earned. In regards to the NEW requirements, it is suppose to take 7 months. Stuff he did over the summer can count since he became an Arrow of Light Cub Scout on June 1st. An aside, since the Webelos badge is no longer required, it is possible for a 4th grade Webelos to start work directly on t

Depending upon where the Scouts are at in their career, I may or may not suggest new books for my scouts. My son, since he is currently Tenderfoot ( waiting on 2nd Class BOR this month ) and will be 12 when the new books come out, I'm buying. For the 14 yo star who is almost Life, I would print out thr new requirements. As for teaching stuff, they put a lot of stuff online as supplements, I'd use thsoe

The purpose is for the Cubs to learn. One of the best methods of learning is doing. Why else would the books discuss how to do things under the requirements?

In regards to "ringer meetings," I admit I thought the SWAT team was AWESOME! Who doesn't like putting on kevlar and a crowd control shield, looking and hearing about the 40mm grenade launcher that they have for smoke grenades, or the unit's sniper who uses both a rifle and a BB gun ( taking out lights and breaking glass.) But in retrospect it may have been over the top. FUN, but over the top. Now the "wilderness survival" ringer meeting I can see as valid. We went over skills they would need for the upcoming camp out with us. Only thing we did differently than a standard meeting was

I admit, my troop growing up had "ringer" meetings for when we knew Webelos were coming. First 2 years with a feeder pack we would have the SWAT team come out for a visit. It worked the first year, and we did it again the 2nd year. However, after the SWAT team visit, and before the Webelos overniter, we found out the nite before that our gear was destroyed. We adapted and turned the overniter into a "wilderness survival" camp out. Webelos ate it up. Scouts had fun too, and it became an annual event. So much fun that we had ASMs in college driving in to attend. After the first "wild

The night my oldest son visited the second troop, and we gave advance warning too, some would politely say "organized chaos," others would say a "charley foxtrot." It was during the summer, so not as many Scouts were around. SPL was a last minute no-show, and didn't inform anyone until 5 minutes before showtime. ASPL was out of town, and only the SM had the agenda. Meeting was run by the next senior scout. He did his best to run a good show, but was not prepared and didn't know the material. After talking to the SM, he adapted to the situation, and did something that was needed to be done