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Eagle94-A1

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  1. Every council does things differently. I have been told by folks who have went to resident camp that the staff by this point are not as energetic and have negative attitudes, programming is done last minute, and that even though there are paid staff, they still want parents to volunteer to lead activities. One person would rather day camp to resident. Another actually goes out of council to resident b/c it's closer, and they have much better program. One council has a paid staff for their day camp, offer multiple weeks, and offers a discount if you go multiple weeks. However they charge
  2. Barry, You hit the nail on the head. No need to apologize. Heck I vent here a lot, especially the past few years about this troop. Funny thing is, just as I try to move on, something like this happens, and I'm sucked back in.
  3. @ I think part of the issues with having broad, national recruiting policies is that every situation is different. Some troops have a feeder pack, some don't. Some packs have a feeder troop, other don't. Some schools systems allow Scouts in, and other don't. Closets I've found to a national policy is the Webelos to Scout Transition Guide. It's a guide, and I personally am glad it is as there are some things I do not like about it. What do I not like about it? 1) It focuses solely on Webelos IIs and not the Webelos as a whole. Because of various situations, i.e. late birthdays,
  4. As you all know, the troop's decline has been several years in the making. I and others have tried to help, to no avail. In addition to the SM, I also talked to one of the parents who took all the training except ITOLs, and she's looking at that. Don't know what her official role is, but she was the Pack's CC at one point. So she has a little Scouting experience. We specifically talked about recruiting and how important it is to get back involved with the pack. This was back in March. And while I was talking to her, our CM was talking to the SM about the same thing. Last week, both of our troo
  5. Well I think the SM of the troop that has some challenges just got a wake up call. Hopefully things will change. Long story short, oldest son's troop has a camp out coming up. They have an open invitation for Webelos to camp with them, but I wasn't going to take him because I hate taking him when the rest of the den won't be there. However, I now have to take him. So I asked and got approved to invite the entire Webelos group. Then I got this reply <i>[Eagle94-a1]it is in bad taste to recruit Pack members into another Troop. You may not agree as I have seen several posts i
  6. It is my understanding that a lot of the G2SS is based upon business practices, laws, etc, and not Scouting reality. So there are discrepancies between what is done for advancement or in reality, and what is written. Best example is the info about service projects. Those uner 14 can no longer use their little red wagon to transport stuff for service projects. But they can do PushMobiles at the National Scouting Museum, or use wagons to transport camping gear.
  7. From the title, I thought the conversation might be about a troop's lost and found bag after a week of summer camp. with 8 first year campers, we had a large bag, and it did smell.
  8. Not a lot of work. Folks just bring in cans. My oldest son and his brothers do the crushing if they are not already crushed. Storage can be a problem though. One guy donated 2.5 fifty-five gallon garbage bags full of crushed cans one time. He had been saving the cans for over 10 years. Edited: when scouts bring cans, they are already crushed. I have some folks not invovled in the troop bringing me cans. Hence my hoodlums involvement.
  9. We started doing the cans in January. We average about $10/month. Not a lot but every penny helps.
  10. Well, my son's SM knows how to handle discipline. Sending folks home. He actually sent the entire troop home 1 time, about a month or two before Oldest joined it. The lesson was learned and the older Scouts informed everyone, that the SM doesn't play and tell the story how they got sent home 1 time. We have not had those behavior problems. I think bad behavior is like an infectious disease: if it isn't treated immediately the rest of the troop sees it, sees it's not getting corrected, and imitates it so that it grows. Unfortunately the SM believes that his son is can do no evil and that it
  11. I know one of the things I think the new syllabus does not emphasise enough is the PATROL METHOD (caps for emphasis). It was oneof the things I harped on in that class. One person actually kept track of the number of times I mentioned the Patrol Method, as whenever I had questions, I tried my best to incorporate the patrol method into the answer. I admit I did use some of the older syllabus and ILS-T , as well as some previous training informatrion, into my discussions. I do admit, one thing I like about the new syllabus is that it is it no longer 'Death by PowerPoint." Problem I ha
  12. By any chance, do you have ANY of the previous WB versions in an electronic format? I would love to have copies. And I'll trade you an electronic copy of BA22 that I have for it too.
  13. When I went to PDL-1 as a brand new DE, one of the folks in my class was retired USAF and had her own plane. She would fly her plane around her district to service the various units. I think she was in ND.
  14. Well, most of you have heard about the troop falling apart in my district. You've heard mostly about the SM not following the Patrol Method and appointing leaders; meetings are being used as MB classes; not working with their CO's pack; not participating in district activities, etc. I don't know if I've mentioned behavioral problems, in particular with the SM's son, but several folks have left becasue of him. To qoute my son, "He's a bully constantly picking on people." When he was a Webelos I saw some of this, and know for a fact that when the troop was electing leaders, no one would vote for
  15. In all fairness to national, Bill was in the 67-69 years of age when he retired the first time. So I wouldn't call it being "benched." But yeah, I agree with folks not loving the outdoors working for national. Heck my old boss in supply was one. We were a pilot for allowing supply run summer camp trading posts. I had a few years expereince on camp staff, and my boss had none. It was a major P.I.T.A. trying to get her to understand what goes on at a camp and how things in a regular store won't work at camp and how ideas she had were not feasible. It was only after being assigned to jamboree
  16. You mean like Green Bar Bill's WB syllabus? Why does it seem like the folks at national want todo away with everything Bill did?
  17. Boyled, 1) WELCOME TO DA FORUMS! 2) I'm sorry you have a dysfunctional troop. 3) I'd follow the 10th Doctor's ( or is he the 11th now) advice and "RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!" I've seen first hand a troop like yours. SPL, PLs, and other PORs assigned by the SM. SM makes all decisions. etc. Only difference is there is no conflicting orders from ASMs. And I can tell you first hand the frustration you will encounter if you attempt to make suggestions for change and are ignored. The troop I know about was on the way to being the best in the district. SM was finally in the position to
  18. Same here. Reminds me of my DD's dad. His dad died after taking his old troop on a weekend canoeing expedition. They had just finished loading the canoes and gear when he had a heart attack.
  19. Bad Wolf, Unit level stuff shooting sports is only for Boy Scouts, Sea Scouts, and Venturers. Cubs can only be done at the district/council level. G2SS states that limitation. All, As others have mentioned, districts are an administrative unit of the council. Districts exist at the whim of the council basically. So there is really no change.
  20. Ok I'm in the information management field, medical librarian to be exact, and I can tell you without a doubt that the search engine on scouting.org is one of the worse I've ever used. It's gotten to the point that I google what ever I'm looking for and add " and 'Scouting.org" to find whatever I'm searching for. And a database's search engine must be user friendly. There is a very good database available through my state's library. But it's not very user friendly. Heck I'm a librarian, can use the jargon to find information, and I still have challenges at time with that database. Hate
  21. Well I too am looking at necker options. We've used standard BSA neckers, and now National supply is out of the necker business, at least the ones we used (they are still trying to get rid of some, just not ours). Really hit home when we had 2 crossover ceremonies, and no neckers One of the priorities at the next PLC 'cause we have 1/3 of the troop without a necker, and are about to get at least 8 new Scouts in December, if not more.
  22. I thought Powder Horn was suppose to focus on HA planninng and exxecution? I woulld love too. go through th preWB21C course that focused nnot only onn leadership skills,bbut alsScoutcraft.
  23. I think it depends. In some cases, no. But if what you have done in Scouting reflects on youur field, then yes. A friend of mine incluuded Eagle, as well as a desription of his prooject: creating portable obstacles to help train search and rescue dogs. Asyoou can gguess,he's K9 oofficer. Another young man put his summer camp experrience, which was the camp coommisioer. It related to the customer service position.
  24. SSSSSHHHHHH, don't tell anyone, But I still got one of those in my big first aid kit. If they brought back tourniquets, they may bring back these. I like being prepared.
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