Eagle94-A1

Remember there are options when yoour son looks for troops.

Sorry to hear about your son's troop. I know how it hurts when folks you worked with and looked up to folks who don't come to an ECOH that you invited them to. One of my cousin's is an Eagle. He got the invitation and said he would be there. I gave him two parts in the ceremony to perform. A few weeks before the ceremony, He backs out. Why? Because I am taking 1 course at his old university's arch rival. Luckily, one of my old SPL's was able to make it. He said he would try to get leave to make it, but no guarantees. He got leave and showed up. In addition to the very small part I put in t

Issue with the GTSS IMHO is that it is written by health and safety folks who are either using laws that reality should not apply to BSA ( remember when that little red wagon rule came out, it was based upon Department of Labor laws for business), or are heavily influenced by lawyers and our society's excessive demand for lawsuits. Heck I was even told to sue someone who helped me out when I was injured on the beach.

As a former DE who was contacted about a similar and asked my SE how to deal with it, I can tell you that "it is a unit problem." Good luck.

1) forgot to welcome you to the forums. 2) Love the VF-1J armoured Veritech that is your avatar.

Don't remind me about how easily folks get offended. Anyone hear about the girl who is suing her rescuer for rape? She said he touched her inappropriately and kissed doing CPR and she was not able to giver her consent. Now I read that it was a joke on one website, but on another it was real. And with the way folks are nowadays, I could believe it.

I've heard multiple reasons why they took the red out of the Boy Scout uniform. Some silly, i.e. someone at national didn't like red and BSA didnt want to look as if they favored one political party, to rational, i.e. subdued colors are LNT friendly. What I hated about the switchover was the lack of guidance and information by national and utter confusion and waste of money it caused. And Insignia Guide came out a year after the uniforms were unveiled and 9 months after the uniforms became available. Initially it said anyone wearing a Centennial Uniform (CU) had to go with the green on tan

Yes, scouting IS family. Glad you are better, and keeping you in my prayers.

Tahawk, I think that the problem is the powers that be have no consistency in their publications. Now do they understand how the various programs work. Remember the terminology they used when the Centennial uniforms came out in 2008? I loved how the adult leader inspection sheets specified the new shirts for Boy Scouts leaders, and the old ones for Cub Scout leaders. And do not get me started on the green on tan numbers and trained strips vs the white on red numbers and red on tan trained strips. In regards to trained strips, G2AI shows 3 different types For shirts with pocket sle

ROTF! Seriously though. I had one parent, buy a Duluth pack from a national scout shop thinking it would be appropriate for backpacking. I don't know if she asked for help, but I can tell you that not everyone who works for supply division knows what they are selling, or to outfit someone. I had one coworker who would send folks to me to help them out. And there is pressure to make sales. True story. My manager was furious at me because during a relatively quiet afternoon, I spent about 30-45 minutes talking to a new Boy Scout leader about camping gear. Talking about what to look f

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To quote the Doctor, 'RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!" I've had bad experiences with K-mart stuff. VERY BAD There are deals and programs out there. ALPS Mountaineering has the HIKERDIRECT.COM program. Coleman, which I am leery of, has a program. Other vendors have programs too. As for backpacking versus plop camping, let me elaborate. Yes indeed there are ways to get good backpacks inexpensively. I've mentioned facebook and ebay, But Government Surplus has been my friend for a very long time. But I personally like to give folks some time to look at, try on, and get a feel on what to

Don't know the economic resoources of your scouts, but a good backpack may be out of reach for a new scoout initially. My troop does the plop camping. But with a group going to Philmont next year, we are slowly integrating backpping skills and gear. Just because you have backpacking gear, doesn't mean you cant plop camp. Heck, my son found a fully stocked chuck box at a yard sale for $40. Most of the gear was designed for packpacking!

10th ed. BSHB 1990, states what a field uniform is and has an image on page 566. Also has a descriptio of the activities uniform, field uniform with a polo shirt. That's the 1997 printing, and i think the image was changed because the 1990 ed, first printing SMHB, uses field and activity uniforms, and has pics on pages 231 to 233. The image of the uniforms also includes the tan activity shorts with white socks that they stopped producing around 1995. And yes, I have a pair of the tan shorts.

Part of how you respond and replys comes about your relationship and experineces with your Scouts. I will call them ''hoodlums'' at times becuase of a movie reference. One family joke that I modified for my oldest when Scouting, has now been applied to all of the Scouts in his patrol and a few others. And they modified it to use on the Adults in on it. However, I woould not use the ''go away you horrible Scout'' on a new Scout who would think I'm serious. What's funny is that on one camp out, the patrol had a pool on when I would say it.:-)

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Thanks for the responses. I admit I got 4 selfish reasons for doing what I do : my Second Class Scout, my Webelos Cub Scout, my Wolf Cub Scout, and Payback. First 3 are obvious, but there is no way in Hades that I can pay back to the leaders how much their time, energy, and care meant to me. Closest is continuing their legacy.

My thoughts. 1. Make sure the Scouts have some sweat equity in the purchasing of equipment. I've seen good donated equipment abused 2. Once you figure out the gear you need, look at Craigslist.org, garage sales, etc to get stuff. 3. I love government surplus gear. As one of the ASM's would say, ''if it's designed for combat, it may survive Scouts.'' There are state programs where nonprofits and local government agencies can buy gear cheap. In NC, ALICE packs for $20, axes and saws for $10, etc. Good luck!

I know it is a very big deal. I knew going into this decision how important the troop is to the church. One reason why I wanted to talk to the SM and my friend the ASM/CM about it. I know first hand how important the relationship with the CO and units are, I do not want to damage that. The Church's relationship with the pack and troop is one of the reasons why I am glad my son picked the troop. All day I have been thinking about typing a letter, rescinding the offer to be SM, and emphasizing that I am formally relinquishing my job as a committee member and will serve as an ASM. Which I

How good a relationship do you have with the troop, and how much work is left to get AOL? If they are only waiting for the 6 months since completing 4th grade, see if the troop will let them visit meetibgs and go camping. Son's troop has an open door policy, and Webelos can go on any trip allowable by BSA. We had 2 Webelos do hiking while the troop worked on backpacking and hiking. Another thing if they are chomping at the bit. Cross them over as soon as they are 10.5 or in December.

Keep it up. I had a similar discussion between BORs with one of the patrols last nite. IMHO, our society has conditioned them to follow the adults' lead, and they have a hard time comprehending that they can do what they want, within BSA guidelines, as a patrol.

1) WELCOME TO DA FORUMS! (And yes, I am screaming at you at the top of my lungs like I would any new Cub Scout leader ) 2) Guide to Insignia and Awards is your answer, http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/Media/InsigniaGuide.aspx 3) Regarding stars, you got 2 options OPTION A. X Star on a CS yellow background for the X number of years as a Cub ( And if you have an old 1 year star on TC Orange background from when it was a separate program you can wear that OR add a year to the yellow background) Y Star on a green BS background AND a Z star on a leader

Update I had a conversation with the COR/CC. He is going to think about it and bring it not only to the troop committee, but the church board. The issue that may cause some challenges is that I am not a member of the church, nor of their faith. Scouting is truly viewed as an outreach program with the church, and the troop has attracted families to them. If I would be approved, I would be the first non-member as SM ever, and the troop has been around on and off, mostly on, for over 60 years. Believe it or not, I do not have a problem with it, and understand where the church is coming fr

Actually I read about a case where an SM was put into the Ineligible Volunteer Files after being seen in a bar, in uniform after summer camp. Thankfully he followed the appeal process and explained why he was in a bar, in full uniform, and was reinstated: it was the closest place from where his troop bus broke down that had a phone to call a tow truck for the bus, and parents to pick up Scouts.

MattR, National BSA has come up with some standards that approved providers agree to use for WFA. Here's a link http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/680-008.pdf