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Eagle94-A1

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  1. Definately smaller, and without folks with strong outtdoor backgrounds liek way back when, probably not that outdoor oriented.
  2. I think the biggest difference between LDS and non-LDS units are the leaders. In LDS units, you are "called" or appointed to be a leader, whether you want to be one or not. So there may be no interest in doing a "decent job." In non-LDS units you have volunteers that, for whatever reason, have some motivation to be a leader. It can be their sons, it can be that scouting is their passion. The volunteers have the motivation to do a "decent job." I have a job, in which I am subject to having my schedule changed on a minutes notice, and yes I've stayed late without prior warning sever
  3. Unfortunately I know of one Scout who was having major family issues due to divorce. When his grades slipped, mom grounded him, including no Scouts. He attempted suicide because for him, his SM was the only adult that cared about him and what was going on. For him Scouting was the positive, safe environment. Once he recuperated and got help, he returned to the troop until mom and siblings moved. I hope he found another good troop wherever he went.
  4. 1) BSA goes with the lowest bidder, 2) When this fiasco started with SCOUTNET2000 in 1998, one of my fellow DEs, who worked in IT prior to and after leaving the BSA, tol dme this fiasco would haunt us for years because: A) Guy in charge had 0% IT background, he was a former SE B) Company being used was known in the IT field at the time for lowballing their bids, making hteir money with fixing the bugs.
  5. I had a conversation with the new Scouts last meeting. i told them EVERY time they get something signed off for advancement, ESPECIALLY AFTER BORs ( all caps emphasis), they need to make a copy of their advancement sheets and store them in a safe place. Told then about what happened to me, book splitting and then going for a swim, as well as what happened top a friend, council had his records so messed up that he was listed as a First Class Scout when he was going for his Eagle. Told them in both instances, the copies from the book worked because THEY ARE THE OFFICIAL RECORD OF THEIR ADVANCEM
  6. While not as dramatic as Stosh's 2 stories, one of my Eagles was over in Iraq and the plastic tension thingy on his tent's guy line broke. He fixed it using a taunt-line hitch. His Gunny made him teach everyone in his platoon how to tie that not so that when it happened to someone else, they could fix the problem. And everyone knows the story of the Eagle who was a NASA shuttle commander and his square lashing story?
  7. My understanding is that National is still pushing year round Cub Scouts. I guess they want Cubs to be like Boy Scouts. I don't think the PTB realize how adult leader intensive Cub Scouting is, and that a break from Cub Scouts is needed for the adults. My pack does do activities over the summer. It varies from 2 events per month to 1 per month, depending upon pack leadership.
  8. In Christineka's defense, she did say that her family is LDS, and there are some modifications to the Boy Scout program tailored to their church. The youth are automatically enrolled in Scouting and are expected to be in the church's units. And if memory serves, it is extremely discouraged for them to join other units. So voting with their feet may not be an option. And we also know that just like non-LDS units, there is a wide variety of adherence to BSA and LDS policy with LDS units. I actually discussed the challenges I faced with one LDS church in my district with a very active LDS Sco
  9. First off, if it sound like I am criticizing anyone, I want to apologize. That wasn't my intent. I know different troops do different things, and I am trying to understand what's going on and getting some clarification. Second off, I am a program freak, and firmly believe that if you have a good program, they will come. My troop didn't have a CS pack for the bulk of my tenure as a youth. We survived becasue we had a very active program. Really broke my hear to find out that my troop folded after Katrina. So program is right up there. Third, I honestly believe that the key to everyt
  10. Currently 3 camp outs are needed in order to get First Class, so if he's been only on 1 camp out, he should not be First class, let alone. Star. As for pushing to Eagle ASAP, those of us who have been in a while have seen too many cases of "Eagles" who couldn't tell you about a single thing they did for any of their MBs. In one instance, when an EBOR that denied one Scout the Eagle rank because his family "pencil-whipped" the MBs found out that National granted his appeal, Not only did the district's EBOR resign in protest, the entire district advancement committee did so as well. I
  11. Live class with internet used fro communication: Good. Internet and computer based MBs: bad
  12. Gotcha. We're fortunate in that the camproees are actually rather good in my neck of the woods. Except for the year it was MBs, specifically the Scouts had to chose from 4 MBs to work on. Several units skipped out, and the district learned their lesson when most of the Scouts complained.
  13. From some literature I've read, January. But I know that national supply, and a lot of council stores do Inventory int eh late December/early January time frame. GHonna be interesting. And thanks for the italics! As for LDS units and 11 year olds camping, it's a national thing. They are limited to 3 campouts per year. That may need to be changed since I think 6 are required for FC now. Sorry I glanced at the new requirements.
  14. Isn't it listed in the MB requirements?
  15. 2Cub. But do you invite Webelos to meetings, camp outs, etc? Are there any district/council activities that encourage Troops to bring Webelos to? Are there any service projects and other CO activities that both the pack and the troop participate in? I ask because in my neck of the woods the district and council camporees encourage troops to invite Webelos ( you get points towards your score). Most packs and troops work together on Scouting for Food and our district's Memorial Day Service Project. What about Scout Sunday?
  16. The document is a comparison chart from what is currently listed in the Boy Scout Handbook to what will be in the new Boy Scout handbook. I have the 2014 printing of the BSH, which actually was reprinted from the 2012 printing and prior to January 1, 2014. So, Cooking is not listed in the current handbook, but was updated in the 2014 Boy Scout Requirements book So if this is a comparison of what is currently in the book, to what WILL BE in the new book, and Cooking isn't listed under the new requirements, Me thinks the need books needs more editing before coming out.
  17. Why join my troop? It depends. The main questions the Scout should ask are 1) Are you meeting my needs, and 2) Am I having fun? We are a "hiking and camping troop" with boating thrown in during the summer. We are doing some outdoor activity every month, except January. That's becasue of all the Crossovers we get in December. So we have a lock in with a trip to the climbing wall, and some other activity. Why we exist? Old pastor saw a need for the Scouting program in the church. He viewed it as an outreach program. New pastor is A) and Eagle, B) father of a Scout, and C) Loves the o
  18. Could it be that "OUTING is three-fourths of ScOUTING." ? Or maybe "ScOUTING IS OUTING!" ? Sorry I couldn't resist quoting Green Bar Bill.
  19. First Aid MB was no longer required for First Class in August 1989 when they did away with the time requirements, Skill Awards, etc and came out with OPERATION FIRST CLASS. As for the Webelos Adventures aqnd doing them like MBs, I know of one mom who is going to have some challenges with the process. She is very outdoor oriented (hey you know you got a keeper when she's willing to go backpacking on the AT for the honeymoon ) and took the hoodlums on a hike. After the hike, she decided to see what could get signed off for the Wolf and Webelos. There was even a little "debate" over who
  20. (sarcasm on) "I love it. LOVE IT!" ( sarcasm off) It's not about advancement, it's about the Scouts learning something and growing. My oldest spent a week at summer camp, and didn't earn a single merit badge. NOT. A. SINGLE. ONE. One parent freaked when I mentioned this. Sai dsomehting about wasting the camp fee. BUT did my son learn some things? Absolutely. Did my son have fun? Absolutely. Did my son grow? Absolutely. Proudest moment for me was when he took one of our homesick Scouts under his wing and helped him out. This is his 2nd year at summer camp, and he handled it like a
  21. I know our troop has a program, maybe too good a program as A) we are getting scouts from multiple units and B) We are a hiking and camping unit. The youth have been slack on advancement up until recently. But that's because most don't care, they want to have fun. All the older ones now want First Class so they can go to Philmont next year. Funny thing is, withthe exception of the 30 days of exercises for Tenderfoot, and the 1 mile orienteering course for First Class, all they really need to do is get the stuff signed off. They have the KSA for the advancement. One thing that seems kinda
  22. IMHO, part of getting them to understand MBs is using the Webelos Adventures in a very similar manner to MBs, i.e. get "experts" to work on them with the Cub Scouts. As for what the ranks are, I'ld focus on the "how they are earned" part more than what they are. And I second whomever siad First Aid MB required for First Class Scout.
  23. I want to say it was mid to late 1990s when the ban went into effect. here is a 1990 camporee patch http://www.ebay.com/itm/East-Carolina-Council-1990-Camporee-Tar-Heels-H2292-/201371801269?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ee2b1d6b5 I want to say this was the last official CSP from my council with it http://www.ebay.com/itm/MINT-CSP-East-Carolina-Council-S-5-/291502226712?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43dee2fd18 This troop got into some major trouble with national and the council with this one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/East-Carolina-Council-2005-Jamboree-Troop-12-SMY-JS
  24. One I heard about was the camp director placing the live lobsters for the SM's dinner with the Scout exec in the staff shower house. Took a while for the staff to clear out the showerhouse. Staff in response put his Jeep in neutral, pushed it to the area between the main camp and the HA base, put it on 4 jacks, and used the four tires as orienteering markers for him to find. That ended the pranks that year at camp. Another one I heard was the cranky P.I.T.B. camp medic, who happened to be a heavy sleeper, was duct taped to his cot by several staffers he ticked off. They then proc
  25. Japanese type 30 for me. I got one like the middle one in the photo. http://milpas.cc/rifles/ZFiles/Bolt%20Action%20Rifles/Japanese%20Rifles/Bayonets%20for%20the%20Arisaka%20Rifle/Bayonets%20for%20the%20Arisaka%20Rifle.htm BUT I am saving up for one of these beauties http://www.khukurihouseonline.com/Content/Catalog/Browse/ProductDetail.php?PID=a9a1d5317a33ae8cef33961c34144f84|5b484f
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