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well if you are adding food joints to. then MOTHERS restaurant for an Everything Po'Boy. Regarding WWII Museum, I went there twice when it was still the D-Day Museum, and still have not seen everything. MUST GO BACK FOR A FEW DAYS Me personally, I'd rather go next door to the University of New Orleans' Eisenhower Center and go through their archives.

While many pros are Eagles, there is a substantial number who have little to no experience, especially at the national level. When I was a DE, while many had Scouting experience, the ones that stayed around usually didn't. At my national owned scout shop, neither of my managers had any Scouting experience as a youth or adult, save being an employee. Until I started recruiting friends to work with me, no one had any youth experience, and 1 coworker had experience as a den leader only. And that moves up the organization. Other examples would be the marketing folks BSA have used in the past. An

Bit of a drive, approx 1.25 hours away, but Salman Scout Reservation is in Perkinstion, MS and is the council camp. City Park had a campsite called Scout Island, but do not know if they still allow camping. I haven't camped there since 1985. I believe the National WWII Museum has an overnite program. I'd call and find out. Another option, see what affilaited COs with yours are down there and work out something where you stay there and/or do something with the other troop. Other things to do in New Orleans are the Museum of Art, Audubon Zoo, and The Aquarium. There was the Old

Actually William "Green Bar Bill" Hillcourt was a Scout in Denmark, earning teh Knight Scout rank, their Eagle Scout, and went to the first 2 WSJs as part of the Danish contingent.

IMHO we got too many ASMs in my sons' troop. And some have the knowledge, skills, and abilities to not only survive in the outdoors, but also work with the Scouts. And some do not. One thing I am seeing having so many adults: adults thinking camp outs are covered so we are not having enough adults with the KSAs attending. We are ending up with one or two experienced adults and a bunch of new parents with nothing but Cub Scout experience.

Trust me, being a Boy Scout is nothing compared to being a male nurse. Only thing harder is being a male certified nurse midwife. Yeah, we have one of those at my hospital.

Growing up, as a PL my mentors were the two SPLs I served under, and the older Scouts in the Leadership Corps. When I was ASPL, it was the SPL, and sometimes when they were home from college or military leave the former Scouts I worked under. I can count on one hand the number of times I was mentored by an adult. It was when I was acting in the SPL role, and it was the SM doing the mentoring. The more adults involved in a troop, the more problems will arise.The committee doesn't need to be involved in supervising the leaders. They need to support them by getting the resources they need to

No, not my intention at all. And I want to apologize. In rereading my post, it comes across as very negative. Part of that is the ADD. One problem we suffer from is our minds are going a mile-a-minute, and we can switch from one topic to another, and it makes sense to us. But when expressed,it makes no sense. Part of it is my own frustration with this situation, as you will see. So How did I go from "That’s the thing. Growing up my Webelos den did some of that, basically what was allowed at the time." to "Grant you, the PLC came up with the ideas,...." to "...why I like boy

Sadly, my PLC only meets twice a year, and one of those is the annual planning conference. Current SPL tried to have them 1 per month, but encountered some challenges They did meet twice in his 6 months. Part of the issue is the Scouts. They are use to a smaller 1- 2 patrol troop. Plus they are use to adults intervening. part of it is the adults. The ones that want to attend don't have the time.

That’s the thing. Growing up my Webelos den did some of that, basically what was allowed at the time. When Webelos got to do more, my troop started doing the above. Grant you, the PLC came up with the ideas, but for a troop without a feeder pack for a long time, it was extremely successful. I guess that is another reason why I like boy-led, it not only works, but a lot of times it works better than with adults interfering.

Question for ya @WisconsinMomma, what was the Webelos program like for your 13 year old? Did the DL treat it like a continuation of Cub Scouts, or started treating it more like a Boy Scout patrol? I ask because it seems from my experience that how the DL treats the Webelos is what makes the difference. Dens that begin transitioning Webelos I see have better rates of Scouts staying in the program, adapting to Scouts better etc. I know the dens my older 2 were in did just that, and there are no problems with them. Ditto with new Scouts who were in one of my Eagle's den. Cub Scouts in a good

Regarding learning, as my grandfather onme told me, 'the day you stop learning is the day you die." i would not consider a 13 year old a new guy. most of the PLs growing up were 13-14. I was ASPL at 13. And really, Anyone First Class or higher, regardless of age, should be able to handle themsleves, and teach others. dad should not have to double check. Going off on aside, I honestly beleive the problem stems somewhat from society.Let's face it, some people consider 25 year old children. At work, I have parents contacting me not only for their high school aged children, but also colleg

This is the Tale of the Two Eagles. Once there were two Eagles. The First Eagle was the son of a "Double Eagle," or an Eagle Scout and Explorer Silver recipient. "Double Eagle" dad pushed and pushed and pushed his son to earn Eagle at the ripe old age of 13. Since the Silver Award was no longer around for Exploring, dad did no pushing for that. Since the First Eagle met his dad's expectations, and thought his journey was over, he quit Scouting at 13, only to rejoin many years later when his own son became a Tiger Cub. Now the First Eagle had a cousin. Both "Double Eagle" Uncle and Firs

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or causes $1500 to $2000 worth of damage and gets the troop banned from staying at the location ever again. Yes, that happened in my old troop back in the day.

Back. Here are some examples of what I am talking about We have a committee member who is also a Wolf Den Leader. However he was a WDL, was fully trained as such, and got that the Webelos program of Cub Scouts is meant to transition both Cubs and their parents into Boy Scouts. He camps occasionally with us, but leaves the Scouts alone until the medical issue with his son arises. Only when it is a health and safety issue, specifically the medical issue his son has, does he get involved. He doesn't pack his son's clothes, go behind him when he camps to make sure the tent is up properly,

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I wish it was as simple as sending a SAM up their exhaust pipes. They have a Gunship in their corner that provides suppressing fire on occasion (why I don't know because he is ticked off at some of their antics, and I bet his APL son didn't tell Gunship the situation he encountered this past camp out). Plus they are good at evading radar, nap of the earth flying, etc.

I got mixed emotions on the flag issue. If the purpose is just to get the flag and keep the SM ordering it and adding to the costs, I have an issue. If the purpose is to surprise the SM with the retired flag b/c he is stepping down, I'm cool with it. My troop did just that.

Wanted to give an update. Still waiting for the meeting. We lost 2 good Scouters last nite. One is moving out of state, And I hope I got him to believe in the Patrol Method. In the 3 years his son has been in the troop, I've watched the son mature and grow up. Dad didn't really believe in the PM in the beginning, and I had to reign him in at times. But I think once he realized if adults get out of the way, the kids perform. Sad loss for the troop, and especially the son's patrol. He was PL and had a lot of new guys he was working with. We also lost one because of the helicopters. He's doi

Understatement. We had a group that started pushing back, but as the adults did more and took decisions away from them, they appear to have said "The heck with it."

David, First off, THANK YOU for doing the COR job likes it's suppose to be done. Sadly, in my 25 years as a Scouter, i can count on one hand how many did what they were suppose to do. All, This exact situation, having experienced Boy Scouters go back and help Webelos is something I too have seen done. ASM saw some challenges with the WDLs, and ended up becoming the WDL. Unlike David, the COR is a paper one with that pack & troop, so when the paperwork came across, it was signed automatically by the CO. One reason why I was thinking of going back to Cubs, to work with the We

Ah ringer patrols. True story, we had one troop put all their older Scouts, specifically all the ones who went to Philmont that summer into a single patrol. It was quite humorous in that they didn't do to well, and were in fact the lower half of the patrols. That was a few years back. Closest we had to a ringer this year was a combined patrol. Long story short, one patrol had the bare minimum to compete, 4 Scouts, and the other patrol had only 3. They merged into a 7 man patrol for the weekend. Last year one of the two merged patrols was 2nd overall while the other patrol was in the top 5

I agree partially Stosh. I agree that you need to get the Scouts' input as to what events to do. They know what they like to do. I disagree with him in having them run events. That's because i feel the event is for them and they should be having fun. BUT I would not stop them from helping if that is what they want to do. In fact I had two JASMs from 1 troop run an event at my camporee due to mobility issues with their adults. I did camporee for 2 years. First year it was thrown together in 2 months since the person in charge dropped the ball and quit. I used the Scouts in my troop,

National did just that, in the 1970s, and look what happened.