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I did not get any esponse, but I have challenged them to actually stand up for the basic tenets of Scouting and to not just use their "support" or being an Eagle as some kind of additional reason to tempt people to vote for them. I do not see many of them living the tenets in their so called leadership positions. If they did, perhaps we might actually see something positive develop in Congress. I get the impression many of them do not understand how poorly they are living those tenets, if at all. Certainly few are serving with Honor, or "doing their best", if the results we have are any measure .
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We have myriad examples of poor end results when the first notice of overreach and ignornce appeared and we ignored it. Bringing it to the fore just makes it less of a total surprise when one of the ego meisters in charge gets such poor ideas. What the nay sayers never note in regard to the Jambo involvments is the almost free training and practice the Military gets in those events. Dealing with large groups in events and emergencies is difficult to stage, so the Jambo offers one way for that to happen. In 85 when "Bob" came to visit, the Army made themselves proud in their response and support. The speed and turn around of drying out thousands of sleeping bags and restoring order in flattened areas was beyond expectations. And, if our old friend Joe Price's story to me as to how he became a collector is partly true, the Military drew on early Scouting manuals and training to kick start and support the huge training needs. He was tasked in his position in a part of the support groups in finding as many of those Scouting resources for training support that he could, and so it became a long time hobby after the War. He told me once that the original Field Book by Hillcourt wa one of the standard resources, as were the early Sea Scout manuals. And the continued service to honor Vets on the various National Days is almost expected in many communities. The service to the Civil War reunion in the thirties or the flag postings in cemeteries we see regularly. Many instances of horable Flag retirements at Scout camps, and the Eagle projects that focus on respect for the military and its members. IF this actually is proposed, I suspect it will NOT be well received by Congress, even in this confused period of our history.
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Here is a link to a slide show of some of the statues placed, and that may still be there. It would be a great adventure for womone with the time to pursue an updated gathering of photos of those statues still standing across the country. https://libertysisters.com/index.php/nggallery/slideshow?page_id=117
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It appears that the decision is done; see letter.
skeptic replied to skeptic's topic in Open Discussion - Program
Not on purpose. It seems to me that we have something similar in process in D.C. -
It appears that the decision is done; see letter.
skeptic replied to skeptic's topic in Open Discussion - Program
Not yet, though it was on one of the common FB pages. Taking after the Gov and "leaking stuff". -
It appears that the decision is done; see letter.
skeptic replied to skeptic's topic in Open Discussion - Program
At least a buck. Then it can stop there. -
As I have aged to old coot or goat status, I find few things surprise or tryly annoy me. Not worth the bile. As long as the YP is in place and the Scouter means well and is focused on the youth growing, what is the big deal?
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And soon another bunch of phone solicitations and post cards about how we can buy a book?????
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Ones that likely will be shrugged off if answered with good options for growth and change.
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Fairly common; the rank and file most often have no clue, as those running the back play are not overly communicative to the peons. Still waiting for the announcement of our last camp which is supposedly in escrow, though no info is available for some reason. As some may remember, they sold our primary camp with no warning already. So we no longer have viable council camp property.
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Not sure it has anything to do with the Covid interruptions. Did they have to have any skits approved first? The newest attitude on such things is, from my recent experience, one of overly zealous concern with something maybe hurting feelings or hinting at stuff once just part of normal life interactions. Especially NO possible inuendo or suggestion of body functions, animal or human. In some instances we no longer are supposed to sing the old Region Twelve song, for example, as one of the early versions, and the ones most of us recollect has nakedness suggested. The old standby trainge elephant skit is not acceptible, nor the dumb two scouts arguing about belts, but not noting that is the topic, noting length. The JCPenney skit is no longer generlly allowed, nor the one with fish(suckers) hanging on a line. The really sad thing is that they are exposed to far worse daily on TV and in public where the four letter word is now so common few even notice. And TV programs often have so many beeps in them that it is simply tiresome. Just my thoughts, but I am of the lost generation when we still were innocents and still were neighborhood families.
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Not sure what the issue might be, other than surprise to you. IF she is properly vetted there should not be a problem, especially if she was not necessary as leadership for your unit at the event.
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Not sure what you are saying. It specifically states "respect others' beliefs" and does not mention anything about monotheism or otherwise. Pretty broad and subjective it seems to me. But, whatever floats your boat, as some say.
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It is often expected to identify if you are part of the group. At many COH's they even have all the Eagles gather around in some manner. For years at our Eagle recognition gatherings they would do some type of "who is the earliest Eagle here" type of thing. But, bragadocio is misplaced too often and can be annoying. But, Kind is one of the points of the Law. So, smile and go with the flow. I have learned after decades that it is not worth the sour stomach to let it bother me.
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Well; youo certainly hit the nail squarely. As one of our leaders growled last week when I mentioned the apparent sale of our only remaining camp; "If it means money, they do not care how it affects the units."
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There is a certain irony that National grew from the need to respond to the trenches where Scouting struggled to survive, but was locally vibrant for the times. And now, when we are back to struggles in similar chasms, they seem to be unaware of reality too often. Our local council seems too often to simply not get that most volunteers simply want to be kept in the loop. Our successes are almost all unit based, and seldom noted by Council, unless they find issue.
