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  1. I say again, "nonsense". Let me add, "rubbish", and "give me a break", and "stop building mountains from molehills". Tradition has its place, and this is one that deserves to remain.
  2. Yes, annoying, but real life. Little has changed in the way the world works. The only difference in the way in which people respond to asking for help, is the myriad ways they can ignore or "forget". Today, we have supposedly better communications, but we all know few people pay attention to email anymore, and even texts are easily missed or put on the later burner. This can simply be a learning experience for your son, and maybe a reminder for yourself. Follow, follow, and then check. Do not expect one reach out to do the trick. If it is important, do it personally and then follow up a
  3. Nonsense. Push the hype and try to panic weak minded Chicken Littles. That is not what we teach the youth, or it should not be. "On My Honor". Honor is all that we truly need as we wend our ways through the self-centered crowds to the exit of the maze. If we have our compass, we will be fine.
  4. In a little more than 4 years or so, Troop 111 has quietly done what most of us only talk about too much, but for whatever reason fall short much of the time. THIS is what National should be doing, but just as 111 is doing, just that, doing it and quietly putting it out there for the community to see, and maybe take away some of the media's tarnishing. This unit grew out of a pack. The two primary leaders took their cubs and began the slow evolution, through Webeloes that were already doing some of what the troop now does, and moved the younger boys into a new troop, focused on this program
  5. Like the Teal book an BP over-reaches, many of the comments from the lead in to WWII by prominent people simply shows early misconceptions many had. Go 5 year forward, or less, and those same positive views were expunged and contradicted by most of the parties we bludgeon today with this "evidence" of poor judgement or what ever we might call it. BP also wrote glowingly about some African tribes and their leadership, even going so far as to use beads from the wooden strand, I believe from a Zulu Chief, as representative of leadership skill. Some suggest he stole the strand, while he suggest
  6. And then we have the cost of a visit to a major amusement park where you spend half your time standing in hot lines and buying over-priced food, as well as the entrance and parking. I admittedly no longer have the patience or focus to make a chart of say a dozen various youth activities and their average annual costs. But, as you have noted, Scouting is "still" overall a bargain. Much of the yelling is partly due to simply the "fact" that the organization has always been a comparative bargain. And the uniform, while nice to have and hopefully most will at some point, is not a requirement.
  7. Well here is an absurdity on its own. Are there ANY verifiable indications that anybody "can control the sexual identity of someone?" I do not think you are likely to find any such believable or provable method. Just saying. Of course, this whole thing is beyond the pale anyway, as the fact is, that there is no absolute way to keep warped personalities out of the program, no matter how many barriers are put in place. And the fact that the percentage of vases, compared to overall membership numbers, is lower than all, or almost all other similar groups makes the situation even more bazaar.
  8. Take a look at this most recent posting from FB in the Chumash District of VCC. The co-founder of the troop like to say, "Get 'em out there". And they do, and share it with others if they ask, with proper training. This troop is three years old, started with two groups of Web's and some dedicated parents, two of them Eagles. The youth, as cubs were already doing small scale trail work. Now, they are working with serious stuff, and the FS loves them, as should the public. But they do not look for kudos, they just serve; they "Get 'em out there!" https://www.facebook.com/groups/5739545300
  9. To the ambulance chasers: At some point the turnip patches will go fallow.
  10. I am a natural skeptic, and I take only about 10 percent of what I see on these pages as something to more than peruse. Having been on this board longer than most, I watched the drama between a number of posters that became sometimes almost abusive, and often hard to fathom or believe. The tendency of too many of us, and I am sure I have so exhibited at times, is to become bull headed and not willing to "listen" and "consider". This in turn leads to stalemates and often jaded attitudes and eventually to lack of involvement. But it also often becomes a crusade by the few, the ones that are
  11. I find myself wondering where are all the "champions" or "connected" supporters of Scouting at this point? Those people that call on BSA to be on hand for public events; those people that reach out to BSA for service and that benefit from all the Eagle and other projects? Where are the loud braggart pols that line their public image with their support of Scouting or even that they were or are Scouters or Eagles? Where are the legal experts that should be able to combat the overreach of the lawyers that only want to grow rich off the mistakes of a group that has given so much to our society
  12. Looking past the very murky comments by some here, I cannot comprehend the idea of removing Character Building from the program. Of course, the lawyers and some of their litigants missed that boat a long time ago, or we would not be in this position now. Of course, in almost any other country that is part of the World Organization, this would not be able to be happening, as they have more rational legal systems that do not allow this kin of BS. Lets face it, we live in a society that has far too many people that have learned to play the blame game, and a legal system that exacerbates
  14. Perusing the JOTI special Jambo info I found this. There seems to be some very clear explanations regarding certain elements of youth protection in it. I am not suggesting it is better or worse than BSA guidelines, just that it appears to address issues, in verbal form anyway, in a substantial way. Just as in YP, it is only as good as the willingness of someone to adhere to the intent. Here is a link to the event noted: https://www.jotajoti.info/joti-special-edition https://www.scout.org/sites/default/files/library_files/Code%20of%20Conduct%20of%20WOSM.pdf
  15. Not seeing any ads, so not sure to what others refer. I do keep ad blockers on my computer though.
  16. https://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2020/03/16/how-to-conduct-a-board-of-review-through-videoconferencing/?fbclid=IwAR0GCH57DrgBZcGvlb9dGk089hrEM2_Ac6TH47Z4HV8PrgVfOuY0E4qFF80
  17. I just followed the link from Schiff, but it may have taken me somewhere not on subject completely. There were a full compliment of the golden patches; the hardest to find are Schiff and Philmont, and the most common is the one in the OP query. Have to go look at the historical stuff, but think there was also a SOR version. In one of my books I have the complote set. At the 75th, they put out a very large assortment of similar patches for many different events. I believe I finally tracked all of them down and also have them in my "stuff'. Have a bag of Centennial items that are just that
  18. I have a copy of that in my stuff. Keep saying I am going to find someone to play all the various records and save them to modern files for easy use. Have a number of them. Similarly with my 15+ pieces of sheet music. Get someone to play them and record. I have only heard about 4 or 5 of them. I have heard the Ives record. It is typical Byrl.
  19. Good thoughts, and certainly of import. The larger question is how do we "actually" screen our applicants? Other than hearsay from friends and acquaintances, how do we make an educated and rational decision to even go to the actual registration point, and how do we do a "non" official interaction? None of the safeguards are foolproof, no matter how much we try to make them so. The worst actors are often also the most tenacious and scheming. I know we generally discuss unexpected individuals coming forward with no direct apparent connection to the unit or its members. But, since we encour
  20. Somehow I ended up with far more here than intended, and I am unable to figure out how to fix it, as the edit feature is not obvious to me, if it is there. The only part I was trying to feature was the Screening discussion, not the other material. If someone can fix that, I would appreciate it. Or, it can just go dormant on its own I guess. Thanks.
  21. Our CO has put all the state precautions into effect. That includes trying to keep a small distance, six feet, between individuals that ARE meeting. All group gathering are postponed, including our weekly church services. Much is precautionary, but in the case of our church, half or more of the congregation is in the higher risk categories. And many groups that use the facility are already higher risk individuals such as the Anonymous groups. So here we sit.
  22. Before I sign the actual application I do review it for being complete. As part of that I read the "reflection", partly as consistent with my final conference before the board. Personally, I on occasion suggest a rewrite so that it is a bit clearer and to perhaps proofed for major grammar or spelling issues. If they choose to not, that is their option. But, as I explain, this reflects on them as well, and so they should attempt to do it well. Just my approach. The main thing is that it is "their" thoughts.
  23. My question would be what is the badge, and why the change. Is it important in order to better understand and learn? If so, then how hard is it to just begin anew. On the other hand, if the badge is generic and the change is insignificant, you might push the rule of starting before the change. Is it worth the discussion or possible friction? Weigh it and decide the best approach, but I would hope it will not become a point of contention. Good luck.
  24. Can you expand on this, maybe even have a photo of the award? Hiking on a ship? Did they have their fit-bits?
  25. Neckers are not required at all, if I understand. It is an option. Many units have a formal and field (dare I use that term) necker, the formal one for COH and such, and the informal basic and larger for actual use int the outdoors and so on. Related to this thread; who remembers the old BL column that encouraged making slides? Years ago, I think it was at the 85 jambo, I saw a Scouter with a full collection of all the BL slides, most that he made himself. Coo. My favorites are one from the 1960 jambo with the patriotic scene, and the first non-official slide I got, a white fdl w
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