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  1. The hostel angle is just one of many to think about. The main thing is to hopefully have usage for local youth and small groups in some manner while also having service opportunities for the serious needs that abound. The church appears to already be decided on it being a place for outreach.
  2. Specifically VCC, Council 57. The city is Ventura, and of course right on the beach, as well as fairly easy access to the larger So Cal area. It is still in the early stages of local discussions, but some small uses may be allowed in the discussion periods. My thing is doing whatever we can to display the best of Scouting and just do it. That is the real challenge, not getting led from our primary reason to exist by ignorance and people with tunnel vision.
  3. So confused with tags and such. Just give me a basic forum and let me type. Anyway, we have an interesting possible opportunity locally with the closure of a major church with considerable property with its campus. The church is being run by the Methodist District and there are plans in the works for using the property for outreach. I have proposed that part of that be a distinctly inexpensive spot for traveling youth, Scouts or otherwise. Also, picture us developing a resource center with historical material that can be reviewed and possibly utilized in modern context, or a "How it
  4. So, another "go get the stick" distraction. Maybe we should simply "do our best" to save the basic and solid foundations and grow them with the youth in mind, no matter their variants in beliefs or other seemingly important distractions foisted by a messed up society. Just saying; these scenarios are fun, and even have some place, but our focus needs to be where the compass point meets the direction arrow.
  5. https://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2020/08/28/saving-grace-scout-creates-inspirational-worship-videos-for-eagle-project/
  6. It might be a great challenge to the youth to form their own teams to work at it from that all important side of the knot. But, only in BSA would such a marass of issues be on the board. It might even be interesting to have the same basic scenario, but in another scouting family or two in other parts of the world. Playing outside the box and realizing other shapes exist.
  7. After my parents passed, I was cleaning out drawers and collected a trove of coins, many silver. I checked the dates against an old coin catalogue, then took them to a local dealer and let him know I had checked the dates. Three, I think, of the silver ones were worth more as collector items than the silver, and he took that into account. I ended up with close to $400 in silver content, plus a few bucks for some older pennies. I still have a jar of the lead ones I think, just for fun. Had a smaller jar that I took to scouts and new boys were given on when we did our first review. Have ru
  8. Not sure where you might get an idea of this replacing Hornaday. Currently, from reading the announcement, it appears it is not yet a long-term award, though it could become one. But I see nothing in the article that would suggest it replacing Hornaday. If anything, it might become an additional qualifier in the Hornaday stable. And we do not yet see if there will be a younger boy, Cub, award, or if the muli-level World Conservation Award will have any play in it. Think positive and ask that the head of the EPA and the President earn the equivalency of the recognition.😇
  9. We get back to interpretation; but this does appear to rule out fencing. As noted of course, with proper supervision and equipment it is likely as safe as many other activities still allowed. I am confused by the last one: "Intramural, interscholastic, or club sport competitions or activities". Are they saying that scouts cannot participate in normal team sports in school or the various youth sports leagues? That is what it appears to say to me, which makes not sense at all. What am I missing on this one?
  10. The basic idea seems okay, but the arrangement of the pieces is out of whack. It should be starting from the youth side and the support then being available.
  11. I believe they are seriously moving in the right direction. We do not have all the facts, nor any idea about many of the peripheral considerations. What I perceive, partly based on some discussions at PTC last summer, is that a sea change has begun. Are there still people in National that may try to buck the change, or are too bull headed to understand the seriousness? Probably. But I have studied the history of the program for over fifty years and have many theses and studies and actual professional meeting and conference minutes and reviews. The first thing that makes me cautiously opt
  12. It isn't happening now, so lets move forward and work with our current options and stop making noise when not necessary. Be happy that for the moment, not all the doom and gloom is in motion. Certainly stepping, if slowly, in a better direction.
  13. So, I find myself wondering how the lawyers at the core of this suit, the ones that most of us see for what they are, would respond to a concerted effort by interested legal parties to dig back into their families and drag out fifty year old family related bad acts or poor responses to them. Just conjecture, and it is really not a Scout-like idea. Still, I really detest their distortions and attitudes. But they threw the first rocks.
  14. A new posting in my download from Bryan On Scouting. I found the disclaimer, show below, almost too much for common sense, but also understand the reason. Just a comment on where we are in our society now. Importantly, these answers are designed to provide information and should not be used to diagnose health conditions. Please reach out to a professional health provider for support in addressing concerns you may have. COVID-19 is an emerging, rapidly evolving situation. Any materials that the Boy Scouts of America provides are for information purposes only and do not
  15. I have taken 6 courses at PTC over the years, going back to 1977, and I saw almost nothing but positive family experiences going on. What they told us last summer when I was there again for the History program was that they were developing a program along the lines of the family options for PTC, but that would be done outside a family member in a training seminar. I got the impression it also would be eventually open to non scouting individuals.
  16. This has been an interesting read. I continue to be flummoxed by some of the truly negative comments, especially in light of the detailed positive report. Cost, other than the transportation if you are not near, is within the same range as our more local camps, and less than some. I would dearly love to be able to take our unit there, based on the report given, but for us, in California, it is prohibitive from the travel standpoint. I do wonder if the format I perceive in the report is what they are moving towards in the changes at Philmont. Their descriptions last summer of the dir
  17. This, IMO, is part of the problem in the hierarchy of local councils. In reality, the COR, in conjunction with the others within the council, have considerable power if they are coordinated. Each has a seat on the Executive Board, and a vote. Most either choose to not participated beyond the signing of adult apps and occasional troop visits. But, their job is to represent their CO on the council Exec board, and to convey the CO's concerns. Most councils appear to downplay that actual power and would prefer to not see the COR's attending meetings, especially ones dominated by an elite cliq
  18. I just noted that a lawsuit has been filed in N.Y. against the Girl Scouts for abuse. There is also one against a Rockefeller research center that apparently had abuse happen in a youth group study by doctors. So, the net spreads, and soon BSA will just be a small part. How long until the youth sports and Big Brothers and Sisters have their accusations?
  19. Sorry, but I find it foolish to blame ignorance, bad actions, and rude or worse language on a virus. Covid does not make people do these things. They make the choice, and use the idea of Covid stress as an excuse. JMHO of course.
  20. There are four books in my collection on Antarctic Scouting participation. Three relate to Paul Siple, and one to Richard Chappell. All are interesting and representative of Scouting involvement in some very advanced and challenging activities over the years. Others include the African safari told about in Three Scouts in Africa; another, included one of those African participants in Alaska, A Boy Scout in Grizzley Country; there is one about scouts working with rangers in a National park, another about a hike of some scouts on the Oregon trail to Independence Rock for its hundredth anniver
  21. It is interesting to me that this particular broad, yet detailed discussion is going on here right now, but that this same discussion has not as yet been offered by the BSA defense team. Further, should not this same argument, similar to what we have here, be published by some prominent public opinion sources? Of course, I have suggested similar things as far back as the first case in Oregon. I also remember there being concern then about the poor decision to force the release of the Ineligible Files to legal perusal, as we knew that it would lead to just what has occurred. Logic and
  22. Trying to review this, but cannot get a link for it, and the part shown does not fit screen properly. Where is this from?
  23. Part of the article on youth and world peace I have been rading; "“The Education of Young People – A Statement at the Dawn of the 21st Century”. The five organisations (World YMCA, World YWCA, WOSM, WAGGGS and the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies), which together “…actively involve in excess of 100 million young people” feel that the value of nonformal education is “…often underestimated and its benefits undervalued” and they call for recognition that “…non-formal education is an essential part of the educational process” and therefore that “…the contribution m
  24. No quibble with the tools as you note; just have issue with the, to me, foolish and narrow minded concept that the term "Scoutmaster" is out dated or negative, or somehow derogatory to the scouts. Surely we have more serious concerns, say for example, making the best parts of Scouting visible and prominent to the communities they serve, and doing it well enough that the crazies that are trying to destroy it just give up. There was a reason that the Rockwell Scouting themed paintings were popular and still are, or that major advertisers used Scouts and Scouting themes in their ads, or that in
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