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Without the spinning, I think.

Ok then. More adventure, more advancement... more fun, less arguing. @MattR @desertrat77 @John-in-KC @LeCastor @NJCubScouter

Good reminder. I'm sure many of us continue to slip up on the naming conventions but with the GSUSA is currently suing Scouts BSA over this, we need to be careful. Thanks.

??? Sorry, I am a bit confused about what this is about. You apparently corrected the misunderstanding of terminology in another thread?

Yes I was...but more than a week later maybe just water over the dam?

@Navybone welcome to scouter.com. Political protest in uniform isn't that an oxymoron? Back in the 60's, I can recall a few uniformed scouts remained seated for the pledge and national anthem. Talk about Brave. They were quietly protesting the Vietnam War. Later, they were instructed that scouts may civilly protest but not in uniform. Maybe the policies need further explanation. https://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2018/10/23/can-packs-troops-teams-or-crews-participate-in-political-rallies/ My $0.02, P.S. An old scouter told me, Scouting is where you ask a scout what he was thinking and you get an answer.

Agree. Please elaborate your thoughts on teaching citizenship and civil (scoutlike) protest to scouts. Can a scout write a letter to the editor about this issue and sign it. T. Jones, First Class Scout?

Should scouts be allowed to protest while wearing the uniform? A time and place...?

Wasn't this done 3 1/2 years ago? Tufts (University) study confirms Scouting builds character in 6 areas. (2015) https://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2015/10/22/tufts-study-confirms-scouting-builds-character-six-critical-areas/ https://sites.tufts.edu/campstudy/ Baylor University research study 'Eagle Scouts Merit Beyond the Badge" (2012) https://www.baylor.edu/mediacommunications/news.php?action=story&story=113239

I think that is the root problem - adults afraid to confront. at the unit and council level and hence no quality control. I have seen scouts arrive with used uniforms complete with previous, unearned rank. The SPL or SM has a brief talk and problem solved.

Thanks . Let's stay away from personal attacks particularly on a youth.

Can out-of-council Scouters bid to serve on EBOR?

Seems a phone call from National to her Council is overdue.

Where are the uniform police when you need them?

Arggh. Sorry, I misread, thanks for correction.

https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/92-103.pdf "Long-established policy limits the award of the Silver Beaver to adults 21 and older who are registered with the Boy Scouts of America as volunteer Scouters."

@PinkPajamas welcome to scouter.com . IMO, the more common aquatic activity need is BSA Lifeguard .

Good analogy. IMO at the start of this Eagle Path that Scouts BSA generously provided and communicated, she should remove all insignia not officially earned and get to work. My harsh $0.02,

Hah! Thanks @Eagle1993 I appended Skye08 queries to ScottishNaomi's similar topic here. @Skye08 please review posts here at your leisure. @MattR @desertrat77 @John-in-KC @NJCubScouter @LeCastor

@Skye08 welcome to scouter.com. Perhaps a weekend stay with grandparents?

Good idea. { Poof } Done.

@BryanInOakland welcome to scouter.com

I'm a big fan of boiling water and then mixing ....one bowl and mug to rinse.

Topic locked pending moderator review.

As moderator @MattR stated in his OP. This argument is over. The BSA decided. It's time to be Obedient. For those that want to keep arguing there are a few options: 1) Accept the change. Be curious and see how this change plays out with an open heart. Girls are scouts and they're in the BSA to have fun with their friends in the outdoors. Change is always rough but it keeps happening. 2) Leave. Stand by your principles and realize it's time to move on and find another way to volunteer your time. BSA troops have changed and there's no going back. 2.1) Don't engage in these threads. For those that still want to be a part of the BSA but still aren't happy with girls: Understand that complaining about girls in the BSA has a negative impact on those girls, or their parents, that are reading these threads. Learn to let it go. 3) Fight it. You can PM me, the other moderators, or @SCOUTER-Terry if you don't like this decision. I'll be honest, we're tired of watching these threads. You can also just ignore this and keep complaining. Well, you can try but you're just going to make yourself bitter. And we'll remove your posts and ban you from this forum if you keep it up. Note the last sentence.