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  1. How about scouts who brag about still being virgins? (Well, boys may not use that word with a straight face, but the girls in my crew never had such qualms.) Time after time growing up, I saw examples of older scouts who fessed up that they *weren't* being promiscuous. Their talk, changed my "locker room" talk. And, it was clear that there was no moral equivalence between permissive and restrictive camps, the latter being more certain to prevent more disease, increase the dignity of one's fellows, and provide our future with citizens capable of building and defending this great land. Are you saying that I should now castigate the scout/venturer who extols celibacy until call to lifetime heterosexual monogamy?
  2. Don't. Buy less. Charge more. Go over the list of stuff the unit pays for. Ask what should be cut. If you have a committee member that's skilled in rallying a sales force, suggest the boys ask him/her to coach them. Otherwise: file under "not my problem."
  3. Being surrounded by Venturers, I don't have a good answer for you. I've always made it the older scouts' problem to solve. (They're the one's glued to the hand-held devices anyway.) But, I'll ask the SM/ASM if they do anything in particular for this with the first-years. As an advisor, I should take it a bit more seriously. We've lost some fine young boys in our community to suicide, and social media played a role ... either by allowing them to erode their emotional self-control, or allowing them to drive a guilt train on their family as their last act.
  4. Oh, I remember now! LORD, printed in all caps, in English Bible translations signified when the Hebrew YHWH was used. For being a label, @@Stosh, it sure came with severe penalties for misuse ... as if someone important would take it personal. @@MattR, thanks for the background. I knew about the rope around the high priest. Didn't know it was associated with uttering YHWH out loud. It would have been nice to know what knot they used!
  5. To curb the heckles of confused Cub scouters ... there are ranks in Cub Scouts and there is an advancement method. But the scope of any rank is about one year to earn commensurate with grade level. Never more. In other words, your chances for AoL are not diminished if you never bothered to earn Wolf or Bear ranks. It's just a warm-up to Boy Scouts' seven year challenge. I'm wondering if some girls out there just don't see GS/USA's recognition program as a similar marathon? Do any of them see the MB program as more concrete, and that makes it more appealing?
  6. It's like my kids have an evil quadruplet! (Although their sport is soccer, and grandkids haven't arrived, yet.) I think scouting gives a person the ability to focus on obtuse goals and think outside the box. (That includes taking weekends at a time time to build deep friendships.) I think sports gives the person the ability to focus on narrowly defined goals and think within parameters of time, space, and regulations. (That includes commitment to work lock-step with complete strangers -- either on the same or opposite team -- on a weekly basis.) I'd say the same for band or theater. We need both.
  7. The reason for the plummet in numbers are several. However, the one thing we know could offset it: about a million boys who could ask to join or start a co-ed crew at any time. One thing that did not happen: millions of boys over the past two decades remained in their unisex program. Lowering the age to 11? They lowered it to 13, numbers are still declining. When I have a chance to meet a regional or national officer, I'll ask his/her opinion of lowering the age from 13 to 11, although I bet I know what the answer will. Besides, there are plenty of scouters out there who feel that helping venturing only hurts their troops. And ultimately, activists won't be satisfied because venturing doesn't allow girls to earn Eagle and reap the "benefits" of all of those trappings.
  8. 1. Depends on the culture of your den. If you're all about everyone getting every piece of bling possible, yes. If you're all about boys diving in an having fun where they can, no. 2. It's the scout's responsibility to catch himself up. He can get help from his parents, if they are available. A den chief, if one is available. The DL if they are available. 3. If the remainder of the requirements cover all the requirements for Bear, yes. If not, no. 4. It really depends on how much you all still practice Bobcat skills, and if that will help the boy feel at home in your den. I think that it's fair to tell the boy and his parents that it would take a lot of work to get the Bear award, but don't worry. The whole den next year will start on Webelos, even if they never earned Bear.
  9. This chart is as good as any http://www.scouting.org/Home/CubScouts/Leaders/About/ThePack.aspx.
  10. Rabbinical scholars, please advise. My understanding was YWH (that is, the word using the equivalent Hebrew consonants, Semites often didn't waste ink on vowels) was never left blank in Biblical scrolls. At a certain point in Jewish history priests wouldn't dare say it out loud when reading it. In any case, @@Rick_in_CA, I have always taken the DRP to apply a very broad definition of the word and use that to make clear that Hindu and Muslim scouts were welcomed among us. That is how I still see scouters use it. Of course, much of our problem is that a scouter in one part of the country picks this stuff up and uses it as a cudgel on someone trying be a decent scouter in another part of the country.
  11. Um, no, they can't. It is a reference whose origin is lost in the primitive cultures of northern Europe. Missionaries and practitioners imbued it with particular meaning because that was the closest available word for the construct in vulgar speech. Christians and Jews do not accept it, neither do they own it. No one gets baptized into any church or synagogue with even the slightest orthodoxy by saying "I believe in God. Full stop." It's simply an inadequate specification of the creed of Abrahamic faiths. There are many theists who vociferously argue God is not a person. Their use of the word in such context is correct. Christians may argue that such folks are mistaken. But they can't say that folks have no business capitalizing it in a non-Christian context.
  12. More obvious than a medal, a knot, a necker, a slide, and a (gasp) shoulder patch? How about piercing ... a silver tattoo ... maybe a drone-suspended halo? If they could earn them while serving as adult leaders, I wouldn't mind them wearing them. But, I'd rather be on the same "clean slate" as my SM.
  13. Your examples show us that co-ed programs can be fun. But the majority of Americans don't look to the rest of the world for role models. In that sense we are a much different animal. Asked and answered with our venturing program. After a steep incline in from its inception in 1998 with ~180K members to 2005, when it had 300K members on its roles. It's membership has declined to 148K. That's right. The BSA's premier coed program has 20% fewer youth now than when it started two decades ago. That's not a bump in the road, that's a sinkhole! Had the exponential growth (which, I believe was somewhat artificial for a number of reasons) been maintained and brought us to 800K active youth members today, the discussion would be much different. But we are observing the opposite: when given the choice, American boys and girls will not join a co-ed scouting program in large enough numbers to indicate that such a program is nationally desirable. A lot can change in a decade, and if my crew quadruples in venturers, and my district quintuples in crews, I might become more optimistic. But right now, as much fun as I get from watching young men and women work together in the outdoors, I have to admit that mine is just a niche program with pretty green shirts.
  14. It would be a good idea if there weren't, for every one of her, hundreds, if not thousands, of boys who want a single-sex experience. All we see here is a youth who is officially a member of BSA, who qualifies to earn BSA-issued awards that are known to be as, if-not-more, challenging than Eagle, with a petition of no-cost signatures. Elsewhere we see the occasional cluster of girls mastering First Class skills and earning merit badges. In my district, there are hundreds of Girl Scouts in their late teens. Currently, there are four female venturers. There is no proof that there are any more girls who would be committed to the BSA at the Cub or Boy Scout level. We do know that there are boys and their leaders who will abandon cubs and troops at the slightest membership change. Add a girl, lose a hundred boys. How is that fair? We yanks are all kind of like Missouri, the "show me" state. Talk is cheap. Let's see an escrow account of 10,000 girls' dues and registration fees held in earnest for when they may sign on as members. Let's see troops and troops of GS/USA partnering with BSA troops for weekly meetings and hiking and camping together. There are one or two examples out there, show me 1000. Let's see thousands of scouters having fun cobbling together co-ed programs within the bounds set for them. Let's see the meteoric rise of independent scouting organizations whose policies are inclusive.
  15. The most striking American experiment we have is venturing, the singular co-ed program that has had the most rapid membership decline of all of BSA's programs. Even the Brit's are just now coming around to serve as many boys as they had before going co-ed. More discussion here: http://scouter.com/index.php/topic/28648-how-has-the-addition-of-girls-affected-scouting-in-other-countries/ All evidence points to BSA's membership decline accelerating by going fully co-ed at least in the near term.
  16. Interesting note: thanks to scouting, I got wolf-whistled. Our scout house growing up was next to a sorority house. Both were old mansions, with plenty of lawn space between the two, and we only used the basement of our building, entering from the back where shrubs divided the properties. So most times (meeting nights for us being school nights for them), each party made no nevermind of the other. Except one late-spring evening where I was doing some project at the building, I was leaving a little late and heading down the street in front of both houses. Some of the women were on their porch -- I suppose waiting for a party to start. One of them whistled after me. Not exactly knowing the rules of decorum for such things, I waved and moved on. Lesson's learned: Buddy system. Take the other street home when the college girls are out. Don't forget to say, "Thank you ma'am." Uniforms catch eyes. One wonders if I were with a female scout buddy, would we get the same reaction?
  17. Your unit can make arrangements with the ranger at one of our camps to put-in upriver, and he'll deliver the boats to the launch and recover at the landing at noon or day's end (depending on your float plan). I think you can also use climbing gear if there's a qualified COPE and climbing instructor. Not sure if there's a surcharge. Health and safety paperwork is involved. Maps, compasses, GPS, are standard fare at most camps, and council has a collection on loan. Not sure if anyone ever gets charged for using them. Don't know about the track. It's so easy to make one from scrap lumber. Never thought that anyone would want to rent one.
  18. I don't think the pun translates ... Scautismo per ragazzi ... I'll leave that to the linguists. She said she read everything on her SM's shelf in advance of coming to the U.S. Fortunately, she landed in one of the few neighborhoods in this district with an active crew. However, I would not put it past us, if the crew did not exist, to let her hang out at troop meetings ... membership standards notwithstanding. How would you all respond to an female international student -- registered as a scout in her home country -- knocking at your troop's door?
  19. FWIW, the only youth I've met who has read (a translation of) Scouting for Boys cover-to-cover is my female exchange student from Italy.
  20. In what age is it better if a lexicon depends on who's saying the word? Oh, never-mind.
  21. The young lady in the article has a venturing shirt and World Scouting neckerchief. That pretty much qualifies as inside influence.
  22. Well, there is no doubt that my direct influences are from scouts from other countries who find us utterly perplexing. My position, specifically, is that BSA should be quick to recognize "first class scouts" regardless of sex. But, I also believe that a lot of parents who look for a program specifically for boys will take their business elsewhere if BSA caters to special interests. This may result in a net loss of youth being served for a decade or more. So I can respect BSA's tentativeness. More importantly, detractors who argue, without proof, that girls are being harmed will only leave us wondering about why they aren't being helped by any adjustment made. If the total pool of scholarship dollars for girls is smaller than for boys, prove it. Then, prove that distributing scholarship $ due to Eagle awards to women who earn that award will make a dent in that imbalance. Finally, any external detractor of BSA's exclusions should put his/her efforts behind the model youth organizations that meet his/her approval. Any other action seems like trying to use boys as unwilling tools for social engineering.
  23. Adults can provide the "muscle". Son #1 needed to mobilize a whole community of skilled and unskilled labor. I made coffee and doled out sandwiches. Son #2's project was the geekiest one I've seen - dozens of youth with laptops cataloging books, SM and I hauled off to a corner where we did something involving craftsmanship. So, yes, it's possible that adults get heavily involved. But it sure is fun when it's just your buddies. So, I encourage boys to pick projects that can involve a wide mix of people from the community, with priority on mobilizing their friends.
  24. I'm still looking for proof of denied opportunity. Yes, GS/USA has set itself up so that hiking and camping monthly is not a priority. So, young women feel like they are being denied the opportunity to do that. They tell me as much. But, the vast majority aren't about to change anything. Careers? The only reason so many Eagles are noted for their distinguished achievements as adults is because of good marketing for 100+ years. If an award has only been available for 40 years, even the best marketing will not be able to associate it with half of today's distinguished women. NOW-NYC cites disparity due to scholarships awarded to Eagles, implying that fewer scholarships are forthcoming to Gold Awardees or girls in general. I'm not feeling it. My daughter raked in more scholarship $'s than my boys. The young lady in question wants opportunities. Well, look at her green shirt. I have a little book that lists the very distinguished awards that can be earned with it. Even if her petition fails, she has several great paths to success ahead of her. I look forward to seeing her as an officer in the Northeast Region.
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