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Oldscout448

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  1. I can't match your resume but I was quite unimpressed with most of my IOLS instruction as well. I offered to help teach too but was told that my services were not needed.
  2. InquisitiveScouter covered it well. I would offer only two other reasons both from personal experience in the Order. Firstly, the OA gave me ready access to SPLs and JASMs in other troops, that I could go to with my problems eg; I have a patrol leader who isn't leading. Or my troops Scoutmasters minute is taking 15 minutes! You guys ever run into this? What worked? What didn't? The 20 year old ASMs were especially helpful. Secondly, in my little chapter it was simply expected that a scout who wore the white sash would be cheerfully, enthusiastically, serving his patrol and t
  3. I'm trying to figure out what to do with these staffers. Could we tell Will Smith they made fun of his wife? As others have pointed out there comes a time in most people's lives, when they realize that just because someone is in a position of authority doesn't mean their always right. I learned this important lesson about age 15. Before that I probably would have stayed huddled in my lean-to. Afterwards I would have been right on the staffs heels into the dining hall. The only way they would get me to go back out would be to drag me and then hold me there . If I'm going to die i
  4. I truly appreciate your reply. Although it did irk me at the first reading. Why is he telling me things that I know full well? Things that I have both taught and lived? By the third time though perhaps I'm getting a clearer picture. I am assuming that you have experienced people using "sash and dash" as an insult. Somehow insinuating that such are less than true Arrowmen. I had absolutely no such intent In fact I debated with myself on its use in the previous post. But as I actually first heard the phrase on this very forum , don't recall ever hearing it in the lodge and it describes rat
  5. Now that's an interesting idea. I confess it's one that hadn't occurred to me. Probably because very few members bother to attend the ceremony unless they have a relative or close friend getting sashed. I can certainly see these changes fitting in very well in a rededication ceremony. I understand that some lodges have such on a regular basis. And props to 'em. But I'm still contending that the Ordeal ceremony's primary and overriding purpose is for the candidate/ new member. When I ask new members, the few who want to do ceremonies mind you, what aspect of the ceremony they l
  6. Firstly let me say that I appreciate the link @acema606 Next I must say that I've never been so upset by any program change in my Scouting life, and that includes the ISP of the '70's! I see how the changes are intended to provide links and hidden clues to the Brotherhood and Vigil ceremonies. It's skillfully done.no doubt of it. It's absolutely dripping with symbolism. BUT, not one candidate in a hundred will notice them, much less understand them. The ceremonialists might if they've had a few years of experience. No one else. It's not unlike the hidden meaning in the counte
  7. challenge accepted my friend.
  8. Anyone know where I can get a look at them?
  9. and whiskey box ovens, buddy burner stoves, sit-upons... We stole shamelessly from the Girl Scouts!
  10. The only time I went sorta" Patch Police" and how it turned into a paycheck About 15 years back a tiny just bridged scout came to his third troop meeting wearing a red wool jacket with a felt bull on the shoulder. Just like the one I was sporting. So during a lull in the meeting, I asked him where he got such a great jacket. It seemed his uncle had given it to him the previous weekend. I gently explained that in scouting patches told a story about what the wearer had done, as well as where he had been, and the way that patch was positioned said that he had climbed either Baldy or
  11. I'm 99% certain I would have found someone else to sit on that board. Not because it irks me, just out of respect for the scout.
  12. Being typed I can't hear the tone of your post. Nor can I judge it's intent by your facial expression. But sure seems like a cheap shot at an honest man to me.
  13. I missed a dozen summer camps with my sons because I couldn't afford to send both of us while losing a weeks pay. Sometimes I managed to make it to the closing campfie.
  14. For a decade or so my sons had a friendly competition for the highest mountain climbed. Mostly though I think they wanted to beat their Dads best of 11,711. A few years ago I got an photo of a smiling scoutson #1 standing in the snow, next to a sign proclaiming 18,500 ft. He was somewhere in Nepal.
  15. In the interest of accuracy, here is the statement to which I believe you refer. @yknot I'm just not seeing what you seem to see. If anything It's the opposite.
  16. Welcome! I hear ya brother, when I was an SPL many was the time that I wished I could go back to the simple life of the Quartermaster. I suspect that you are making the same mistake I did in the beginning. Trying to do it all. That's what makes patrols and patrol leaders essential in a larger troop. Properly done the PLs do 90% of the work. First question Where does the SM stand on this? Your're going to have to work together on this.. Does he, or any of the other adults have experience in a multi patrol troop? I'm not saying he should do your job for you, but a wise lead
  17. The biggest difference in working with Richlite or Micarta is that you're basically cutting hardened glue. Chisels dull very quickly, normal hand saws are useless. I usually work it with carbide tipped blades, hacksaws. files, and silicon carbide sandpaper. 220-320-400 grit. 600-800 if I'm going for a high gloss finish. The stuff is nearly indestructible, but as for me give me highly figured Cocobolo or Desert Ironwood every time.
  18. While I am quite certain that Qwazse doesn't require any help in this "debate", I find I cannot let your final sentence pass without comment. It's one that gets used a lot and frankly, It's insulting. The implication being that unless someone is in favor of your solution to a problem, then they are supporting the problem. The idea that Qwazse, or any of us on this forum, is supporting or complacent with child abuse of any description goes way beyond the pale. Edit: FYI I have no need whatsoever to list any qualifications (survivor, recovering alcoholic, etc) in order to give voice
  19. They didn't need to abandon the cooler. For a small percentage I would have given it a good home. Unless of course the three sixes were Iron City!
  20. It was quite common to see the adults smoking a pipe or having a beer after dinner, when I was a tenderfoot but that was over 50 years ago. The word went around in the early '80s that we needed to set the best example we possibly could for the scouts. So no drinking and if you absolutely have to have a smoke, kindly take a hike over the hill a quarter mile away. I knew a few SMs who ignored these rules and were quietly relieved from duty as a result. One event I'll never forget happened in '79 I had to forcibly take a large knife away from a very drunk 14 year old, who was staggering arou
  21. A recent National Chief came from my lodge. He wouldn't or more likely couldn't talk either. I've always wondered exactly what goes on at such high and exulted levels, guess I'll never know. Oh well, I'm much happier in the woods than in a boardroom
  22. I feel obliged to point out that mathematically if you cut a corner off a totin chip card, which is a rectangle, the resulting irregular pentagon now has five corners. As you keep cutting off corner after corner you eventually arrive at a circle which has either no corners or infinite corners.
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