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  9. SR-7A anyone?

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    • It could be. It just means making the effort to change the script. The lore isn't the only thing that makes the OA what it is. Sure it's rooted in Lenape history and style, but what makes it special is the mystique about it, the secretiveness, the ceremonies (the act of carrying out the ceremonies, not necessarily the exact lore behind them), etc.  Swap any cultural lore into an OA ceremony and to me I think it would be just as cool. Imagine an OA based on pacific island culture, island ceremony, dance, and regalia. I think that would easily be just as impressive. I'm not saying to just appropriate another culture, but I think that the OA doesn't need to be entirely dependent on a specific brand of cultural lore to maintain the image of a brotherhood, an honor society, or a somewhat mysterious secretive group.  Keep the brotherhood, the honor, the core of the organization, and instead of wrapping it in Lenape, wrap it in something else. Or create something else around it. Maybe this is actually an opportunity for the OA to recreate itself in an image that the OA can say is entirely their own. 
    • This is the type of stuff that makes me think of giving up being a Scouter. When I have to expend more mental energy figuring out whether or not I'm following the ever increasingly complex rules than I expend thinking about programming... the cost/benefit ratio is way out of whack...
    • I've had Scouters try to jump through hoops before to get around G2SS rules by saying - we'll, if I do it and it's not really Scouting - is that OK.  My guess is that's what they are trying to get around.
    • I think I missed something when I took the course, because it really didn't impact me or my patrol.  I will always remember that at the cracker barrel after the game, the staff kept asking us if we were OK.  We were baffled why they were so concerned. But, having gone back as a staffer and then also talking to lots of folks, I do understand it.  I think it's unfortunate how it impacts people.  The core message I'm OK with - check the natural desire to personally win against the much larger benefit the group gains by succeeding together. A little I'm reminded about the Mike Rowe topic.  I see the Game of Life as kind like Wood Badge throwing an elbow.  It's unpleasant, but it makes a point and leaves a memory. 
    • I found this interesting (from section I): "One-on-one contact between adult leaders and youth members is prohibited both inside and outside of Scouting."   A literal reading of this would mean that I can never again babysit my scout nephew, even if it's not a scouting event.  Yikes.  (Of course an even more literal reading of this means my brother can no longer take his scout son to school while mom takes younger brother to daycare.)
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