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  1. I am so sorry to hear of this. The fact that the child is your own son does make this a bit more complicated and delicate of a situation. You may want another adult perhaps committee chair another ASM or Charter organization rep to stand with you or even take lead in lead on this situation. You may even want to call in a district executive or District commissioner to consult. As I think we all know, voice of this age can the very immature and make extremely stupid choices. they do not think of or realize the possible ramifications of their actions. Although the boys I'm sure will say they were just joking around, and didn't mean anything, the fact of the matter is that those actions easily landed them with felony charges and even permanently on the sex offender registry. They need to understand this. This goes well beyond inappropriate and unScout like Behavior. Each boy should really be extremely grateful that you did not immediately call the police and press charges against them. Accessory to sexual assault is still pretty serious. Parents of each of the boys needs to be involved as they are minors. From what I have read, it is my understanding that you do not wish to involve the legal system at this point. As a parent this is your call, and I believe I would probably made a similar decision. The boys should know however that had this incident happened on a scout activity, there would have been no choice but to immediately report it to the Scout executive and police. Do not, I repeat do not, have the SPL give any details if you have him apologize in front of the Troop. This in itself it's not the Scout Way and maybe against youth protection. We do not single scouts out in this manner. Having him apologize four acts that were not in line with the Scout Oath and law is probably sufficient. Just be careful, so that it does not appear your actions as scoutmaster have anything to do with you being the father.
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    Alternative Camping Structures

    My Explorer post in the 1990s used 1 or 2 GP-mediums.
  3. Oh and ILST twice a year at 3 to 4.5 hours each = 6 to 9 hours. But it is all worth while.
  4. Weekly: Troop meeting (2 hours) Misc. Planning, calls, and emails. (2hrs) Monthly: Troop camp out (5pm Friday-noon Sunday) (43 hours) Roundtable (2 hours) Troop Committee Meeting (1-2 hours) Annual: Summer Camp (1 week) High Adventure Training (University of Scouting= 8 hours)+many others for a probable total of 20 hours per year Scout Show, (planning, prep, setup, attendance, and cleanup. ) (12hours minimum) Order of the Arrow. At least 2 weekends per year Then, you can have a bunch more if you get involved in: Commissioner service Multiple units District Council Training staff Activity such as Camporee, University of Scouting, NYLT Staff, Wood Badge, Popcorn Sales, OA Chapter or Lodge. (particularly in elections or ceremonies)
  5. Advancement requirements are exactly the same. Scouts in LDS (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) units do not pay registration fee, dues, or for most campout costs. They are only allowed one fund raiser per year, and there are restrictions on the types. It is not important to know the specifics, but you may want to clarify what the troops does. This may help ease the shock of annual registration fees and unit dues. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints troops do not camp on Sundays, therefore the leave camp Saturday night. For those who are not members of the church, the change to camping through Sunday likely won't be an issue, but it may be a problem for members. Talk to the parents Boys join the troops on their 11th birthday, and become a member on "Eleven year olds" which is basically run as a separate patrol with limited interaction with the rest of the troops. Scouts are only allowed 3 nights of camping while age 11. Eleven year olds can NOT attend summer camp. Many boys in Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints troops do not have much experience with the patrol method, or youth leadership. Not many Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints troops are involved in Order of the Arrow Adult leadership in Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints troops are selected and called by the bishop (paster). This means many Scout Leaders do not have a youth in the program and did not volunteer for the position. So you may want to explain your troops needs for parent involvement. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints troops are typically quite small with only 1 or 2 patrols. So a troop of 40 or 60 or 100 Boys may be a surprise. All boys age 11 to 18 in the church are registered in Boy Scouts, this means a larger percentage are there because they HAVE TO not because they want to. So they me be surprised how engaged your scouts and parents are. So there are some differences of which to be aware, and to explain to prospective scouts and parents. But there is nothing too hard to deal with.
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    Boys-only weeks at camp

    @shortridge then I really hope you don't belong to Heart of America Council.
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    Boys-only weeks at camp

    So if I read that right, only one of the two properties will allow girls at all. And they get segregated 21 camp on One session. So that's 14 out of 15 for all boys and can only go to 1 camp on the last session which in my experience is the least desirable. The last session being mid-july will be the hottest particularly in Missouri, and the staff often is tired worn out and not nearly as enthusiastic as in earlier weeks. And based on my understanding of requirements for Mic-o-say no girl will be eligible this year and won't be able to become full members for another couple of years. Presuming my understanding is accurate, if I were involved in a girl Troop I would feel slighted. But maybe that's just me.
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    "Classic" Scout Socks are now a thing?

    They want $17 for those socks. And I thought the $8 or the standard uniform socks was way overpriced. I guess if I want that vintage look I will just have to use my vintage socks
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    "Classic" Scout Socks are now a thing?

    But do they count as official uniform socks with the Centennial uniform? What do you mean grandparents? I remember those socks fondly and I'm only 40. The socks that mine Scouts grandfather or we're green used garters and had red or green tabs.
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    Eagle Scout Extension for new 2019 Scouts

    A 16 year old boy who just joined knew how much time he had and if he could or could not earn Eagle in that time. It would be his choice and I don't think more than a few in the country, if any at all. The real point is that National it's allowing those who were not in the program before mostly because they were not allowed, to have 24 months to earn eagle. It is simply giving them the opportunity. There will always be those who just miss a deadline or cutoff date. In my crew there are two girls best friends that do everything together, one turns 18 in January the other mid February. So one has the opportunity to go for the extension and her Eagle while the other does not. I also know twin Eagle Scouts that missed out on getting Palms because of when their Eagle boards were even though they had plenty of merit badges but did not qualify for the retroactive Palms because they turned 18 just a couple of weeks before August 1st 2017
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    Eagle Scout Extension for new 2019 Scouts

    I don't see a reason to add requirements. As it is National essentially added the time requirement of "24 months from joining to Eagle" I think that is enough added work for an 18-19 year old.
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    Eagle Scout Extension for new 2019 Scouts

    https://www.outsideonline.com/2196356/why-girl-wants-become-boy-scout of June 28,2017 lists her age as 16. So if the articles are correct it seems she will turn 18 in May or June of 2019.
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    Eagle Scout Extension for new 2019 Scouts

    In this article. https://patch.com/new-york/southampton/long-island-girl-continues-quest-join-boy-scouts-national-organization-women. She is said to be 15 on May 4, 2017 that would make her still 17 on May 4,2019 therefore still 17 on February 1,2019.
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    Eagle Scout Extension for new 2019 Scouts

    That was exactly what I was thinking
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    Eagle Scout Extension for new 2019 Scouts

    She will need to file her request for extension by March 3rd, 2019. If approved she will have until February 2, 2021 to complete the Requirements. Although the Eagle BoR could be after that.