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  1. Old_OX_Eagle83

    Restructuring Patrols

    The answer to this one varies from troop to troop. Some will say patrols should be constant for the life span of a troop, others will say the experience gained in forming a patrol is essential for scouts to understand the patrol method. For my part, I think both sides are correct; my answer is as follows: 1. First year scouts go in a first year scout patrol, where they go through the experience of forming a patrol, and all else that leads up to performing as a team. 2. Venture patrols (patrols for scouts first class and up) continue unbroken 3. All patrols may make a name change once a year (new scouts must do so following crossover) 4. All patrols use patrol jobs 5. Patrols are kept balanced by assigning scouts graduating from the new scout patrol (upon attainment of first class). Scout assignment is based on not only numbers of scouts in each patrol, but also the number of active scouts, and the scout's personality. 6. Although traditional patrols consist of eight scouts, recognizing scouts participate in other activities and may not always be available, I suggest 10-12 members per patrol. As far as the crew members question, this isn't the crew, split them up.
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    Scout Leader Knots

    Sit down with your training chair, using the requirements about you should be able to fill out the appropriate work sheets. Do pay close attention to prohibitions against double dipping on time for awards.
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    Venturing Rank

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    Some Boy Scout Level Changes in 2015

    Well said. As I read things this should be as sample as: SM: "Do you understand that Duty to God, as a key part of the Scout Oath, is an important part of Scout Spirit?" Scout: "Yes sir" SM: "Are you meeting the expectations of your parents regarding your Duty to God?" Scout: "Yes sir" SM: "Would your parents agree that your fulfilling you Duty to God?" Scout: "Yes sir" SM: "You're a good scout, you know that obedient and reverent are important points of the Scout Law". Remember to seek spiritual guidance from your parents, and the religious leaders they choose for you. SM: "Yes sir" I honestly don't like this change in focus, as it's not our duty to instruct in faith, but rather to encourage each scout to follow the tenements of the faith chosen by their parent of guardian. However, lets see what final shape it takes. As I've pointed out, "Duty to God" is already a part of "Scout Spirit"; will this actually be a change, or just a different way of presenting the existing program?
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    Tarp camping questions

    Unless your talking week long camp, where you drag and drop, send the cot the way of the old tent. I like tarp camping, but don't always do it the same way; I use what nature provides. A few things to keep in mind: 1. Water runs down ropes, and tarps; have all edges pointed downward. 2. You don't have a floor, and water will migrate under you; use a ground cloth. 3. You're open air, which is nice, but check your spot carefully for ant hills, poison ivy, ect My default tarp rig is my hiking stave, the ten feet of rope I carry at my waist (daisy chained), a 6x10 camo tarp, and two lightweight aluminum stakes (optional). I forgot, a painters drop cloth for the ground, and a low end pool raft ($3.00 at Wal-Mart) to sleep on.
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    District OA Lodge Advisor

    You have the correct attitude; keep learning from your experiences, and keep improving things. What youth officers do you have, they should be central to all of this?
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    District OA Lodge Advisor

    What to bring to an Ordeal? Simple - "The ten essentials", ground cloth, sleeping bag, uniform, and work gloves. The candidates may want other things for the second night, these can be locked in a vehicle until after the ordeal ceremony. King, have your Elangamats break them into manageable groups, and go to different parts of camp where they can be spaced out away from each other. A night alone on your ground sheet under the stars is a key part of the ordeal.
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    Webelos transition to boy scouts

    There's no one answer to when to cross over. The pack at our charter org crosses at Blue and Gold, others in the area cross anywhere from January through March. As SM of a troop that drew scouts from several packs the varied crossover dates drove me nuts.
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    Scoutmaster Conference - Is this the right way?

    LeCaster, " I trust my Junior Assistant Scoutmaster and Assistant Scoutmasters to take care of the "testing" portion of this before signing off the requirements in the boy's handbook." Shouldn't this be: I trust my Patrol Leaders and Guide, under the supervision of my Junior Assistant Scoutmaster and Assistant Scoutmasters, to take care of the "testing" portion of this before signing off the requirements in the boy's handbook.
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    Just Need to Vent

    Start directing concerns (complaints) to the committee, and focus and having fun putting on a program for kids. I'd let the committee know your doing this, and suggest they make a rule to only discuss non-safety concerns in person, at committee meetings. I think you can see the possibilities in this
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    Troop awards

    The short answer is absolutely! However, make sure the recognition is either non-uniform, like something for a stave or pack, or goes on the temp pocket.
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    No Scouting on Yom Kippur?

    Our troop often meets when school's out. We meet at a Catholic Church, and respect all days of observance for the charter org, choosing not to meet on those dates. As far as school holidays, they're optional meeting nights, if there are at least two scouts and two leaders who will attend, we have a meeting. With regret nearly all schools in the area are on a balanced calendar now, and we've found the seasonal breaks are ideal for events, as are extended weekends, such as Memorial Day, and Labor Day. Our crew meets on Sundays, between services, and has found this also works well. The members now attend more services as well; they're already at the church after all. My point is non-traditional solutions are worth exploring.
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    Holding two positions at once

    You can do it, but that's a pretty heavy load.
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    Scoutmaster Conference - Is this the right way?

    It's been said that Troops come in different flavors ... this one sounds like sour grapes
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    Is this just wrong?

    Our Lodge just had an induction weekend, as the event's advisor I was one of the last off the property. After locking-up a cabin, feeling the first breeze of fall, I sat down on a picnic table under a massive tulip poplar. As I watched a fox move through the tall grass across the field I became sad, because I realized what so many attendees had missed out on. Assuredly I would have never had this experience if my phone had not been turned off. The scouting program can't be presented through the lens of a projector in an air conditioned hall.
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