dan

Has there been a turnover in adult leaders at this troop? You said that you have gone on trips with this troop for years and have never seen drinking or gambling before, which is why I asked about a change in adult leadership. Now for the gambling part, you need to ask the Scoutmaster if they where playing cards, if they where, ask them if they using chips or money. Whatever they say you only have 2 options either pull your son out of the troop or do not. There is no law that says people cannot have a friendly game of poker. There is no rules that I am aware of that states no gambling all

I took a 23 degree bag last year, we where there the last 2 weeks in July, right before the rainy season, hint hint. We where at highest elevation at philmont, I think it got down to 20 degrees some nights. the bag I took I used once camping in Illinois in 40 degree weather, I froze in it in the Midwest at 40 degrees, but it keep me plenty warm at Philmont. A good 30 degree bag should be fine, you will have thermal underwear with you, which you can put on if it get really cold at night. Not sure if this helps you or not, but just my 2 cents worth.

FScouter I respectfully disagree with you on how these myths get started. I believe that they get started by units who have these rules ie no soda, insurance will not cover you when traveling unless you are in uniform, etc. The units find it easier to say that it a BSA rule instead of guiding the scouts to do the correct thing for the correct reason. Soda on campouts: Leader How does this fit into the food pyramid? Scout It says sweets are ok. Leader Yes, but how much? Scout One serving per day? Leader Correct! So you can either have a can of soda or the co

This was all that I could find. http://quartermasterstore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=QMS&Category_Code=NT-YLT There is not much there.

We just had this discussion about 60 days ago, on this forum. It went just like this thread is going. Some poster wrote that Agnostic can be a member, because they are just confused. Some said they would ignore policy and allow an Agnostic to be a member. Some posters said that a Agnostic could not be a member. Many posters told the posters that said that a Agnostic could not be a member are confused and needed to read up what a Agnostic is. Merlyn posted what the BSA says about a Agnostic being a member, seems pretty cut and dried to me, but if yous want keep looking for thos

IMO Hiking boots are not necessary, BUT, At Philmont last year, I was glad I had boots on because of the streams we crossed and some of the trails with large rocks, I do not think my ankles would have make it without a the ankle support, my ankles hurt after walking on 6 to 12 inch rocks, I called them boulders at the time! We crossed 4 streams my feet stayed dry, they would not have without boots. I do not believe that there are very many boots make with steel shanks, unless you are over the 150 dollar price and many over that price do not have the steel shank. The steel is suppose to ho

Backpacker Are you saying that 70% of the farmland that has been sold has been sold to Arab and Japanese corporations or are you saying that only 30% of farmland left is owned by american farmers? And please tell me where I can verfiy these numbers.

What is a Life Statement?

If the committee has seen the light. Does the troop have a feeder pack? Will the committee suggest to the cubs to make sure and visit other troops? I still say if the other troop starts recruiting, this one will fold. If a committee is using the term feeder pack, they do not have a clue. sorry, but when you turned the problem around to a cub scout mom, you sound no better than the committe.

Semper I think you meant G_d Bless You! didn't you?

WOW This is and older post. But while reading the first page of this thread, when it was still discussing flag burning and relating it to other recent post I am amazed that some posters would think about removing a scout from the unit they are in if they burned the flag in protest, yet in another post when a scout was being a bully, swearing, threatening another scout some posters said that he should not be removed, this just amazes me! Justice for who the bully or the victim! I sometimes think that the Boy Scout stuff will never work! But than I go watch a group of scouts and the world s

Do not go up to the Scoutmaster and tell him you are going to be the ASM for the NSP. Ask him if that is what you want to do. If you stay in this troop your son will never know what boy lead or patrol method is. And when he grows up to be a leader he can run the troop just like his old troop did it! There have been many discussion on how long it would take to turn around a troop that is not boy lead or using the patrol method, the magic number is 5 to 6 years. Gwd Scouter is sounds like you have been able to do it a bit faster, I am assuming that is because all of the leader have left an

First you should tell the pack that they are not your feeder pack, unless you have the same CO. Your committee should encourage the cubs and parents to visit other troops to pick the one that best fits their needs. The troop committee sure sounds like they are afraid of a little competition, which would make me look at other troops real quick. If the other troops in the area start recruiting this troop may be shrinking fast. If scout are going to a different town to join a troop the committee better understand real quick that they are no longer the only game in town. Sounds like you are doin

If the Patrol Leader is not taking a attendance and following up why a patrol member is not there and why he did not inform the Patrol Leader that he was not going to be there, You might be using the Troop Method. If the Patrol Leader is not at all PLC pushing for advancements to be taught at the troop meetings for his patrol members to advance, You might be using the Troop Method. If you do not have patrol completions, You might be using the Troop Method. If all patrols do not sing a patrol song, have a flag and a patrol yell, You might be using the Troop Method. If the Se

I thought that a scout had to be First Class?

In this whole thread I only saw a few changes that I thought where really changes to the program. They where: Retesting (I assume that they was at a BOR) Troops not using the patrol method The next 3 examples, posters said that they where changes to the program I do not think they are. Mandating that a Eagle project takes at least x amount of hours (I think that is what 3 times the normal hours mean, since there is no standard I do not know how this could be measured, most councils control the eagle project, not the troop, note I said MOST) LDS troops adding requirements for ca

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JLT is Junior Leader Training is a course run by troops usually done over a weekend or day. JLTC was Junior Leadership Training Conference it was a weeklong or a 2 3 day weekend course ran by a council it has been replaced with NYLT National Youth Leadership Training. Who should go to NYLT the future leaders of the troop, I guess that is just about every scout! The Scoutmaster should choice the scouts he thinks are ready for the next level of training. Yes you are taking a chance on any scout leaving the troop after the training that should not be a reason to not send a scout to NYLT, un

LyndaJ was the requirements signed off, if so why did you have the scout go over the requirements again? IMHO very few if any counselor will accept another counselor sign off without having the scout go over it the requirements again. IMO finding another counselor would be the same as using this one, a redo.

Have the policeman or fireman come in and give their presentation. After the presentation tell the troop what they just leaned is a requirement(s) for the Safety/whatever merit badge. If they want to run with it great, if not they still learned something. Instead of using merit badge to fill up a meeting, use the time to teach skills, some will be able to be used for merit badges if the scout wants. AND Do not forget to have games at the meetings, Keep it Fun.

Eagledad During the Course Director Conference in 2004, it was suggested that during the feast that all Scoutmasters be invited out and after the feast the scouts would share their vision of their troop with their Scoutmasters. To help with the issue that you brought up. I really do not believe that the course is just for SPLs or possible SPLs. This is a leadership course, that all leaders in the troop can learn from, Guides, Instructors, ASPLs,PLs

When camping for a week, scout skills well be learned, after saying that, NYLT does not utilize as many scout skill as JLTC. This is not a course which to teach scout skills like fire building, cooking, but as I said before if you are camping for a week in a tent, cooking over wood fires. Scout skills are honed over the week, some of the Scout Skills are part of the course, and some are there because it is a week long camp. There are presentations such as, Preparing your plans, Resolving Conflict, Leading yourself and so on, but do you not think these are good tools for a leader? If you wa

bizzybb My first campout with the troop a few years ago I only had a 30 degree bad and a really cheap 50 degree bag, I but them together and had a very warm night. It got down to 15 degree that night, so I say go head and use both bags. I thought I heard everything on how to stay warm at night, I learned a few thing from this thread. I do have question though, it was stated to keep the sleeping bag stored until ready to use because of moisture. What if you have a 2 night campout, like we have this weekend, what do you do with your bag during the day after sleeping in it all night? I t

National Youth Leadership Training (NYLT) is a training course, it is a weeklong course it is setup to represent a month in the life of a troop. Does it teach new Patrol Leaders how to run a Patrol Meeting? Yes, but I am not sure if your ideas what a patrol meeting is the same as mine. Do they use these Training Patrol Meetings to actually do things like make their Patrol Flag? Yes each patrol is encouraged to make a patrol flag and some embellishments on some camp equipment. A Patrol Yell and Patrol Call contest? Yes each patrol is encouraged to have a patrol yell. In

Gee and I thought you where using your blunt instrument on me. And all this time I thought the issue was is it a BSA program or not. Silly me. Glad you are not feeling snarky. edit What we have here is failure to communicate.(This message has been edited by dan)