InquisitiveScouter

All good ideas... I'll try a "feedback is a gift" approach first and see if it gains any traction. And no idea on construction dates...50's and 60's original structures is my best guess, with multiple patchy repairs over the years

How about this "Design Your Own":

But this sign might not really help... What is a "Substantial Building"? I know the answer, but a 12-13 year old will most likely not... If this sign was posted on a lean-to, a Scout could easily interpret that to mean "Shelter Here"

Place your bets... When I file this report, I'm going to offer to purchase 50 of these signs (or better if @RememberSchiff can show me one) and put them up around our camp. https://www.safetysign.com/products/10353/when-thunder-roars-go-indoors-sign Think they'll take me up on it?

Got an example?? I found this one:

Lol, thanks... But, I know my opinions are not valued by our SE. And, I really do not expect them to change a thing... Of course, I do not recommend our parents have Scouts go to any council functions here. OA functions are laughable, and summer camp is much the same. Our neighboring council runs a much better NYLT program. I usually vector them there...this incident just confirms that course... Yes, 1x4's. and many of the lean-to's shake and shift (do you like those cement blocks?) They have been improving them over the years... Know of a tactful way to say I'm kee

I have been drafting the Incident Report / Near Miss this morning. Trying to avoid emotion, conjecture, opinion and conclusions....just trying to stick to facts known from interviewing my three Scouts who were on the course. Here's one of the lean-to's at our our camp Better than a tent, or no cover at all, but not when there is a dining hall within a short walk. Staff also knew strong storms were coming well in advance, and should have wickered program to move indoors. BSA safety notes are clear and unambiguous that these structures are not safe during thunderstor

The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked. Who can know it?

OMG, you will not believe this... So, during said storm, the adult staff told the 35 youth participants to stay in their lean-to shelters, which they did. Guess where the adult and youth staff were???...in the dining hall!!!! And there was plenty of room for all!! Guide to Safe Scouting: Camping: Lightning Risk Reduction? Well, I guess it is just a "guide"... Hazardous Weather Training?? meh... BSA Safety Incident Review: Lightning? That's for others, not me 😈😈 😈😈😈

nvm...googled "bripe"...gotcha

Dining flys, canopies, and three-sided lean-to's in the campsite immediately adjacent to dining hall. During the afternoon/evening and into the night... Talking with one more Scout this evening to corroborate before I submit a report to council. Thanks @qwazse for vector on the Near Miss. Spot on. They were literally 200-250 feet from a dining hall that accommodates 500 people... More to follow...

Second parent confirms same story from their Scout this morning...and that there were several Scouts who knew they shouldn't be out, but the adults told them to stay. grrrrrrr

And your stats are misleading. Those 350 million aren't really the sample population; they aren't outdoors in a thunderstorm. https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/680-056_lightning.pdf

Concur. You and I can take our own risks. But, when dealing with OPK (other peoples' kids) (or your own kids, too, for that matter), the standards for duty of care, negligence, and child endangerment apply.

At our Scout meeting, I talked with parents of our newest NYLT grad. During the NYLT session last weekend, there was a strong thunderstorm. (We live about 12 miles, as the crow flies, from the camp, and it was pretty intense here.) The parents told me their Scout was terrified...Scout reports that NYLT adult leaders told them to stay outdoors during the storm with visible lightning/audible thunder. Dining hall was about 250 feet away. The parents asked me about lightning safety precautions and why they weren't followed. I told them I'd look into it and report. I will seek some a

I love this lesson for our Scouts: "The truth has a date and time stamp on it...especially for maps."

If it ain't raining, it ain't training!

They are all underpaying to get their releases... It is the only way for them to survive. If they paid what they should, they'd be gone...

Wonder if you could buy the mortgage on Philmont? Then, when BSA fails, claim the property.

We are kindred spirits, then. I am glad that climate does not exist where you are. Please forgive me for drawing that conclusion from your post. I have heard this phrase repeatedly in the last two lodges I have been a member of, and it is used as a pejorative. Concur on your Brotherhood observations...sadly. In the last 10 or 15 years, I have experienced Lodges becoming more self-centered. The focus has been on the Lodge's program and what they can do to get Arrowmen to serve that program. I hope you agree this is a corruption of the purposes of the OA. I firmly believe

Perhaps many do this because of the culture in your lodge that promotes using terms like "sash and dash"? I also am appalled... I ask you to reconsider using such a derogatory phrase toward your fellow Scouts and Arrowmen. You say you are an "ex" ceremonialist, performer, and coach. I believe your using this phrase reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of what the Order of the Arrow is about. The Order of the Arrow exists to serve a unit's recognition of their Scouts and the promotion of camping within the council. Purpose As Scouting’s National Honor Society, our

I am a Nova and Supernova Counselor, and have been for years. I have offered program support to our PLC, District, and Council. In my six years in this council, only our Webelos Den worked on the Supernova, and one other Lone Cub Scout completed same. It is one smaller, unrequired layer of an extremely complex tapestry of Ranks, Merit Badges, and Awards. There just isn't that much interest... Guiding them on a somewhat narrower path to Eagle is about as much as most want to pursue...

Ensuring two-deep leadership if circumstances dictate, speak privately and respectfully with the person demonstrating bias to coach them in how to remedy the behavior in the future. Check on the recipient of the inappropriate behavior, ensuring their well-being and making sure they understand that they are valued and that the behavior they witnessed is not a Scouting value. Report the incident to the Scout Executive. Even seemingly minor/resolved incidents can be offensive to recipients of the behavior and deserve to be treated as a possible violation of Scouting’s Barriers to Abus

Ahhh... learn something new every day! I was under the mistaken idea that Philmont charged for crews rather than individuals. Thanks for the correction! But, there is still the minimum of 8 per crew, right? So such a resource could be helpful. Asking for a father-son team who wish to go (they cannot make the timing of our council contingent)...the individual opportunities are open only to youth, right? (or am I mistaken on that, too??)

Don't forget the cover sheet...hmmm...that'd be great... That reference is actually more applicable in another regard, as this badge is really just "flair"