InquisitiveScouter

And yet, when you point out gaps in BSA policy like this, you get the stink eye. But, we can have an effect! I am convinced @RichardB got hold of people to make this change due to our conversations here! https://www.scouter.com/topic/33455-concerns-for-bsas-future/?tab=comments#comment-549021 And the result generated: "Cub Scout pack unit coordinated camping is limited to no more than two consecutive nights. " https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/gss/gss03/#a Thanks, @RichardB!! I do wish they recognized and appreciated the brain trust we have her

No... he is inactive because the den has not completed AOL, and has no definitive plan to do so. So, he (his parent really) is wanting to ditch Cub Scouts, and they are looking for a Troop. The parent (I guess after their experience with an under-performing den?) wants to make sure they avoid a similar situation, and wants to find a quality program for their son. "Try it before you buy it." The crux of the question is, why would we impose a handicap on a youth who meets the criteria to join Scouts BSA, that he would not otherwise have, simply because he is registered as a Cub

Yes, our Registrar confirms they are covered by our Accident and Insurance policy, per "Scouts and guests who are being encouraged to become registered Scouts and volunteers are automatically insured while in attendance at a scheduled activity." https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/gss/gss10/

LOL, thanks. You see the logic trap, therefore avoid answering the question. I will appeal to Caesar, and hold hope that common sense still reigns. @qwazse, you are once again proven correct! Rule #1 (Don’t ask for a rule, you’ll live to regret it.) Not regretting it yet, but getting there 😜

A youth cannot be registered in both programs. They are mutually exclusive. I looked in the Registration Guidebook, but could not find this specific prohibition. But, I do know the electronic systems do not allow this status. So, your Registrar would not do it. In implementation, yes: A youth is unable to earn the AOL once he joins Scouts, BSA.

OK, so what's the difference in that Scout having "joined". Your insurance coverage was exactly the same. And you haven't really done anything to prevent exactly what you have outlined from happening again, have you? Are you saying that, once having "joined", you still do not allow a Scout to camp, until you feel comfortable that the parent has filled out the medical form correctly and sends the Scout with his meds? How do you know when you have reached that point? BTW, we require the medical form, a signed permission slip, and have that conversation with the parents in t

Just curious... What do you mean by "too much liability"?? Would you specify, please?

But if he was not already registered, at 11 years old, he would be OK? Can you see the incongruity in your interpretation of that policy? This youth has already met two of the three existing criteria to join. But because he is registered already, you impose only the third criterion? And... to take that to its logical extreme... because he cannot withdraw his membership, on what date would he be relieved of your policy burden, if he chooses not to finish his AOL?

It's not a den coordinated campout. Thanks

Yes. My practice is to get this through an email or text exchange. Others accept a verbal. In person or over the phone.

Yes, that is to send a Scout out of the current unit. Or a "push". The info I gave is for a "pull". You can bring a Scout into your unit with that procedure.

Hmmm... recent changes to my.scouting.org? In-Council Transfer Application not accessible directly from the page... Anywho, you can do an In-Council Transfer through Scoutbook (SB). Look at the bottom of your unit roster in SB and you will see the In-Council Transfer button. This will take you to the my.scouting.org Organization Manager Transfer-In Application. You'll need: - Youth Member ID - Youth Member First Name - Youth Member Last Name - Youth Member Date of Birth We get these info bits from the parents, when we have a conversation to get their v

You do not need an app. Just transfer through my.scouting

And here is an alternative view... https://raymondsrants.medium.com/the-issue-with-affinity-groups-985b46848796

Understood. We would, and do. Absolutely nothing wrong with having a recruit attend an overnighter. It is well under the umbrella of all things Scouting... they are covered by insurance, have parental permission, and must have a medical form A&B. What a wonderful way for them to get to know us, see what is expected of them, and learn about the youth... The question was really about the Cub Scout-iness of the situation.

So, a parent of a WEBELOS just asked if his son could attend an upcoming Troop camping trip. The WEBELOS is 11 years old. His WEBELOS den is still working on AOL, with no real end goal in sight. The Scout wants to cross over and is thinking about abandoning the AOL program.... The G2SS says Cub Scouts must attend with a parent. (among other restrictions). So, given that, at any moment, this Scout could join the Troop if he wishes, he should be able to make this trip, and without a parent, correct? (nod to @qwazse, I know, I know, Rule #1 (Don’t ask for a rule, you’ll live to r

I have re-read the entire thread, and find the discourse generally civil. Here is a primer: What is not civil discourse? Being disrespectful is not engaging in civil discourse. Here are some disrespectful behaviors that are typically considered out of bounds: profanity, name-calling*, derogatory terms (stupid, ignorant…), shouting, insulting body language (such as eye-rolling), insulting tone of voice (baby talk, speaking “down” to a person), ridicule, open hostility, biting sarcasm, any other disrespectful acts or ad hominem attacks, threats, or any behavior that could get a per

We have been keeping a list, since 01 Jan, of the different species we have seen in our yard so far this year. We are up to 30. The Tufted Titmouse has been notably missing from our feeding stations this winter. They have been quite plentiful in the past. Our birding neighbors have noticed the same. Their absence is a mystery. Anyone else seeing a decline of these? Post script: Appears West Nile Virus may be one factor: https://www.rappnews.com/wildideas/wild-ideas-disappearing-birds-are-we-once-again-facing-a-silent-spring/article_e5bb42b6-0254-11ea-9624-db770acf0ef

I was responding to @Navybone question: BSA is excluding others, based on religious beliefs. It does have the right to do so... I hold Christian beliefs. I do not accept the beliefs of other religions. But, I tolerate them. All people have a right to believe as their conscience dictates. And I vigorously defend that right. (But it doesn't mean I have to accept it.) BSA should not prohibit membership of atheists. It can still adhere to the Declaration of Religious Principle. It can still ask Scouts to define what they mean by "morally straight" and what the found

All models are wrong. But some are useful. https://billmoyers.com/episode/how-do-conservatives-and-liberals-see-the-world/

Setting up tents at an Ordeal weekend, no... But working on conservation related projects at a Scout camp? Sure! That is a benefit to everyone outside the confines of the Scout camp. Planting trees at your Scout camp for a reforestation project, you would not count? Even though something like that would count for the Distinguished Conservation Service Award?

The hours must have been done while registered as a member of the BSA. Other than that, no problem double, triple, quadruple counting... Yes, quadruple... I have counted hours for a Scout simultaneously for Star rank, 50-miler award, Historic Trails award, and National Park Service Scout Ranger Award.

Atheists. Mike drop.

Almost half way there already!!

I do not employ FAQ when applying rules.... If it is that important, write it into the rule...