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Thunderbird

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  1. Respectfully, I disagree. The Guide to Advancement says: Policy on Unauthorized Changes to Advancement Program No council, committee, district, unit, or individual has the authority to add to, or subtract from, advancement requirements. There are limited exceptions relating only to members with special needs. For details see section 10, “Advancement for Members With Special Needs.” Units / individuals do not have the authority to add to the requirements. This isn't just a scheduling issue if a Scout cannot attend a campout for several months and this delays his advancement. It
  2. I agree with @Eagledad. It is a sensitive situation, so talk to the parents first. The troop's leadership might also need to talk to the Charter Organization, because the troop "belongs" to the Chartered Organization.
  3. If you are really concerned about this person becoming a registered leader, then I would talk with the Chartered Org. Rep. Chartered Org. Reps. are the ones who approve adult leaders in units (packs, troops, crews, ships). The Chartered Org. Rep. normally approves the adult leader and signs the adult application before it goes to council for the criminal background check.
  4. 5-6 weekend camp outs a year, plus summer camp? Wow! That's a lot! I think most packs only do 1-3 overnight camp outs a year. Technically, camping is not required of Cub Scouts, although it is encouraged. Outdoor activities is one of the methods of Cub Scouting, but it is not the only method. Focusing on outdoor skills happens more in Webelos and the older Scout programs. But if there are specific skills that you would like your son to learn, I would talk to the Den Leader about it. Most ideas can be worked in as additional activities. For example: I think this age group could le
  5. Longhaired_Mac posted an interesting idea for building bee houses for Mason Bees: https://www.scouter.com/topic/30335-cub-scout-outdoor-award/?tab=comments#comment-485309 An idea like this could be tied in with the Baloo the Builder adventure, the Cub Scout Outdoor Activity Award, or Messengers of Peace (environmental dimension).
  6. Looking through the Bear adventures, many of them can be done outside. Are you limited to doing most things inside due to weather? There are games and building things that can be done inside, depending on how much space you have. There are lots of things that can be done in addition to the requirements.
  7. Are you the Den Leader? Even though the requirements are the requirements, the Den Leader can have a big impact on how interesting they are so that the Scouts get more out of them. If you are not the Den Leader, maybe you could ask the Den Leader if he/she needs help coming up with ideas or organizing activities?
  8. Understood. I was really responding to the post right above mine, which seems to say that the parents in the pack can vote and replace the Committee Chair. That isn't the way it works. Redman's pack is in a tough spot.
  9. It is the Chartered Org. Rep's job to "hire and fire" adult leaders in a unit (pack, troop, etc). If there is a problem with the Committee Chair, and you've already tried talking to her about it, then the next step would be to talk to the Chartered Org. Rep. The unit "belongs" to the charter organization.
  10. And also "obedient" - as in, following the rules. There are some very limited exceptions where alternate requirements can be used for Scouts with physical or mental disabilities (must be approved by council advancement committee), but this sounds more like a blanket exception for all / most Scouts in the troop. What about your district or council advancement coordinators?
  11. Apparently, there have been some Girl Scouts who have decided to sell Girl Scout cookies in front of pot shops. I guess their idea is to capitalize on users and the "munchies".
  12. Right. I was thinking that the OP wanted to remove a Scouter from a unit. Re-reading the original post, it looks like Zebra132 wants to revoke a Scouter's membership. Not sure what the background is, but if there is some kind of YPT issue going on, then it should probably be reported to the Scout Executive and any unit(s) (Chartered Org. Reps.) that the Scouter might be associated with.
  13. I thought there might be something in The Chartered Organization Representative Guidebook, but it just says that Chartered Org. Reps. have the authority and responsibility to "hire and fire" - it doesn't have any information on the procedures to follow when doing so. If you are the Chartered Org. Rep. then I would recommend talking to the council Registrar. The Registrar should know the procedure.
  14. After he earns First Class rank in a troop, he can continue to earn Boy Scout ranks in a ship, but he doesn't need to be dual enrolled anymore.
  15. From the Guide to Advancement (GTA) section 7.0.0.3: "Lacking agreement, the Scout MUST be allowed to work with the counselor of his choice, so long as the counselor is registered and has been approved by the council advancement committee." (emphasis added) The unit leader's signature on the front of the blue card (Application for Merit Badge) only means that they had a discussion ("I have discussed this merit badge with this Scout and recommended at least one merit badge counselor.") The only reasons that the GTA give for not allowing a Scout to work with a particular Merit Badge C
  16. Not the greatest word choice on my part, because you and I are saying the same thing. I think a lot of units do keep the "Applicant's Part" until the court of honor. But after that part of the blue card is filled out correctly (the "Applicant's Record"), there is no need for the unit to hold on to it.
  17. I wonder if this is a typo? Tigers are still eligible for the Shooting Sports awards (including BB guns), which can only be done at council / district level events.
  18. After the merit badge counselor and the unit leader sign it, the unit leader can give the "Applicant's Record" part immediately back to the Scout. The unit's advancement coordinator only needs the unit's part of the blue card. The "white card" in Eagledad's council sounds like a somewhat different process.
  19. Emphasis added. Assuming that we are talking about a Scout getting a blue card at the beginning of the process (before working with a merit badge counselor), then I think this is the part of the Guide to Advancement to really look at. This also assumes that this isn't a merit badge with some kind of restriction. Did the Scouter give a reason for denying the blue card @thrifty?
  20. You can do both. When you fill out the BSA registration forms, be sure you check the box that says "multiple" (which means that you are registering in more than one position / unit).
  21. One word that is missing from that article is "concussions". In high school sports, concussions from soccer are about twice as likely as football to require 22 or more days of recovery. This might be another reason why youth are leaving this sport.
  22. The Eagle Scout application is not required to be completed prior to the Scout's 18th birthday. Your council is not following the Guide to Advancement, which specifically says that signatures (on the Eagle Scout Rank Application form) "need not be dated before the Scout’s 18th birthday." Edited to add: The Guide to Advancement also says: "There is no requirement that the application must be completed or submitted before the 18th birthday. Councils do not have the authority to reject applications submitted on or after that date."
  23. I feel like a lot of information is missing, but I would suggest contacting (in order): -Scoutmaster -Troop Committee Chair -Chartered Organization Representative (the troop "belongs" to the Charter Organization) You said that it was your council who denied the Eagle COH? The council is not normally involved in the ECOH. Who was involved in the decision to deny the ECOH? Troop committee? District? Council?
  24. JMO, but troops shouldn't automatically award Scout rank at crossover because: "All requirements for Scout rank must be completed as a member of a troop or as a Lone Scout. If you already completed these requirements as part of the Webelos Scouting Adventure, simply demonstrate your knowledge or skills to your Scoutmaster or other designated leader after joining the troop." In addition, the "How to Protect Your Children from Child Abuse: A Parents Guide" pamphlet is different in the Boy Scout Handbook vs. the Webelos Handbook. If the Scout does the pamphlet exercises with a pare
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