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  1. Thunderbird

    Can you not give it 100%?

    5-6 weekend camp outs a year, plus summer camp? Wow! That's a lot! I think most packs only do 1-3 overnight camp outs a year. Technically, camping is not required of Cub Scouts, although it is encouraged. Outdoor activities is one of the methods of Cub Scouting, but it is not the only method. Focusing on outdoor skills happens more in Webelos and the older Scout programs. But if there are specific skills that you would like your son to learn, I would talk to the Den Leader about it. Most ideas can be worked in as additional activities. For example: I think this age group could learn some basic map and compass skills. There is at least one Charter Organizations that does not allow pack /den level overnight camping, although I do not know the reasoning behind it. That is why there are options to go camping, but not an absolute requirement to do so.
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    Can you not give it 100%?

    Longhaired_Mac posted an interesting idea for building bee houses for Mason Bees: https://www.scouter.com/topic/30335-cub-scout-outdoor-award/?tab=comments#comment-485309 An idea like this could be tied in with the Baloo the Builder adventure, the Cub Scout Outdoor Activity Award, or Messengers of Peace (environmental dimension).
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    Can you not give it 100%?

    Looking through the Bear adventures, many of them can be done outside. Are you limited to doing most things inside due to weather? There are games and building things that can be done inside, depending on how much space you have. There are lots of things that can be done in addition to the requirements.
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    Can you not give it 100%?

    Are you the Den Leader? Even though the requirements are the requirements, the Den Leader can have a big impact on how interesting they are so that the Scouts get more out of them. If you are not the Den Leader, maybe you could ask the Den Leader if he/she needs help coming up with ideas or organizing activities?
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    Committee Meetings

    Understood. I was really responding to the post right above mine, which seems to say that the parents in the pack can vote and replace the Committee Chair. That isn't the way it works. Redman's pack is in a tough spot.
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    Committee Meetings

    It is the Chartered Org. Rep's job to "hire and fire" adult leaders in a unit (pack, troop, etc). If there is a problem with the Committee Chair, and you've already tried talking to her about it, then the next step would be to talk to the Chartered Org. Rep. The unit "belongs" to the charter organization.
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    Swimming Requirements for Rank

    And also "obedient" - as in, following the rules. There are some very limited exceptions where alternate requirements can be used for Scouts with physical or mental disabilities (must be approved by council advancement committee), but this sounds more like a blanket exception for all / most Scouts in the troop. What about your district or council advancement coordinators?
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    Only six months till girls in Scouts BSA.

    What is the full roll out of Family Scouting?
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    Eight scouts sent home from Scotland Jamboree

    Apparently, there have been some Girl Scouts who have decided to sell Girl Scout cookies in front of pot shops. I guess their idea is to capitalize on users and the "munchies".
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    Membership Removal Procedures Booklet

    Right. I was thinking that the OP wanted to remove a Scouter from a unit. Re-reading the original post, it looks like Zebra132 wants to revoke a Scouter's membership. Not sure what the background is, but if there is some kind of YPT issue going on, then it should probably be reported to the Scout Executive and any unit(s) (Chartered Org. Reps.) that the Scouter might be associated with.
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    Membership Removal Procedures Booklet

    I thought there might be something in The Chartered Organization Representative Guidebook, but it just says that Chartered Org. Reps. have the authority and responsibility to "hire and fire" - it doesn't have any information on the procedures to follow when doing so. If you are the Chartered Org. Rep. then I would recommend talking to the council Registrar. The Registrar should know the procedure.
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    Advancement question

    After he earns First Class rank in a troop, he can continue to earn Boy Scout ranks in a ship, but he doesn't need to be dual enrolled anymore.
  13. From the Guide to Advancement (GTA) section 7.0.0.3: "Lacking agreement, the Scout MUST be allowed to work with the counselor of his choice, so long as the counselor is registered and has been approved by the council advancement committee." (emphasis added) The unit leader's signature on the front of the blue card (Application for Merit Badge) only means that they had a discussion ("I have discussed this merit badge with this Scout and recommended at least one merit badge counselor.") The only reasons that the GTA give for not allowing a Scout to work with a particular Merit Badge Counselor (MBC) of his choice is if the MBC is not registered and approved by the council or if the unit leader has placed a limit on the number of merit badges earned from one MBC. There is also this from section 7.0.0.2: "Typically after the unit leader signs the blue card, the Scout contacts the merit badge counselor and sets an appointment. Even though Scouts may benefit from reviewing requirements with a counselor before pursuing them, a boy may begin working on a merit badge at any time after he is registered. It is the counselor’s decision whether to accept work or activities completed prior to the issuing of the signed blue card. Common sense should prevail, however. For example, nights already camped as a Boy Scout, or coins or stamps already collected, would count toward their respective badges." A boy may begin working on a merit badge at any time after he is registered. The blue card is really only necessary before working with a Merit Badge Counselor (MBC). However, there are some merit badge requirements that require the MBCs approval (examples: Citizenship in the Community #7c. or Game Design #6). But it is the MBC who decides whether to accept the work or not - not the Scoutmaster.
  14. Not the greatest word choice on my part, because you and I are saying the same thing. I think a lot of units do keep the "Applicant's Part" until the court of honor. But after that part of the blue card is filled out correctly (the "Applicant's Record"), there is no need for the unit to hold on to it.
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    Tigers Can No Longer Shoot BB Guns.

    I wonder if this is a typo? Tigers are still eligible for the Shooting Sports awards (including BB guns), which can only be done at council / district level events.
  16. After the merit badge counselor and the unit leader sign it, the unit leader can give the "Applicant's Record" part immediately back to the Scout. The unit's advancement coordinator only needs the unit's part of the blue card. The "white card" in Eagledad's council sounds like a somewhat different process.
  17. Emphasis added. Assuming that we are talking about a Scout getting a blue card at the beginning of the process (before working with a merit badge counselor), then I think this is the part of the Guide to Advancement to really look at. This also assumes that this isn't a merit badge with some kind of restriction. Did the Scouter give a reason for denying the blue card @thrifty?
  18. You can do both. When you fill out the BSA registration forms, be sure you check the box that says "multiple" (which means that you are registering in more than one position / unit).
  19. One word that is missing from that article is "concussions". In high school sports, concussions from soccer are about twice as likely as football to require 22 or more days of recovery. This might be another reason why youth are leaving this sport.
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    Denied a court of honor.

    The Eagle Scout application is not required to be completed prior to the Scout's 18th birthday. Your council is not following the Guide to Advancement, which specifically says that signatures (on the Eagle Scout Rank Application form) "need not be dated before the Scout’s 18th birthday." Edited to add: The Guide to Advancement also says: "There is no requirement that the application must be completed or submitted before the 18th birthday. Councils do not have the authority to reject applications submitted on or after that date."
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    Denied a court of honor.

    I feel like a lot of information is missing, but I would suggest contacting (in order): -Scoutmaster -Troop Committee Chair -Chartered Organization Representative (the troop "belongs" to the Charter Organization) You said that it was your council who denied the Eagle COH? The council is not normally involved in the ECOH. Who was involved in the decision to deny the ECOH? Troop committee? District? Council?
  22. JMO, but troops shouldn't automatically award Scout rank at crossover because: "All requirements for Scout rank must be completed as a member of a troop or as a Lone Scout. If you already completed these requirements as part of the Webelos Scouting Adventure, simply demonstrate your knowledge or skills to your Scoutmaster or other designated leader after joining the troop." In addition, the "How to Protect Your Children from Child Abuse: A Parents Guide" pamphlet is different in the Boy Scout Handbook vs. the Webelos Handbook. If the Scout does the pamphlet exercises with a parent / guardian and if the Scout can demonstrate his knowledge and skills of the Scout rank requirements, then the Scout should be able to make Scout rank very quickly. From what I have seen, Boy Scouts who don't make Scout rank within the first couple of weeks typically 1) have some issues with memorization (the standard for Cub Scouts is "Do Your Best", which is different than the standard for Boy Scouts) or 2) they have issues with getting their parent / guardians participation on the pamphlet exercises (usually communication with the parent takes care of the second issue). Going back to the original topic, I am not aware of a BSA policy either way, so your Scoutmaster / troop committee could establish a policy. Most troops do cover the Totin' Chip pretty early after crossover, so it isn't usually much of an inconvenience. If nothing else, it's good refresher training for the Scouts, who might have earned the Whittling Chip 2-3 years earlier as Bears.
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    Why Not Girl Guides?

    “A program for girls ages 11 to 17 will be introduced in 2019. Details will be announced later this year." Implied in this statement was that it would be an additional / separate program for girls. "Program" means something like Boy Scouting / Varsity Scouting / Sea Scouting / Venturing. Call it BSA4G or whatever, but, to most readers, it didn't mean gender segregated units (troops).
  24. Son is working on the Insect Study merit badge.  His caterpillars have turned into butterflies and are ready to be released into the wild!

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    I finished my last meritbadge!

    Congrats, Brian!
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