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Eagle94-A1

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  1. Back. Again I strongly recommend there is one or two liaison people between a CO's pack, troop, and, if they have one, ship or crew. I know the pack I'm with had one back in the day when I joined. They had a very good Webelos to Boy Scout transition program as a result. Unfortunately a change in adult Scouters with the troop ended the transition program, as well as other things. The troop has not received any new Scouts from the pack since 2013. Thankfully the CM and SM are old friends, and the CM wants the troop saved. So he was able to push the troop into working with the pack when other
  2. @@bbender Ideas to improve Cub Scouts look good to me. One thing I would suggest is talking to units that did NOT have problems with the June 2015 - November 2016 requirements to see what they did to get things done. However regarding this statement: I say it depends. I've seen where a CO had the same committee for both units work with minor changes. My troop had one committee, and the crew had almost the exact committee. Differences was the SM was the CC of the crew, and advisor for the crew was the CC of the troop. And I have heard of a few COs that do it that way But i
  3. The zip off pants are great in the field, especially the "gen 1" switchbacks with the zippers at the ankles. I've unzipped the ankle zipper, unzipped the lower leg, and pulled the leg off without taking off the boots. FYI the ODLs, the "Centennial Uniform" (i.e. the one with the "smokes pocket on the sleeve) and whatever they are calling the current ones (without the smokes pocket) are all interchangable. So you can wear your ODL shirt with the new pants, wear the old insignia on the new uniform etc.
  4. Fleagles. Originally the Flying Eagles, but one of them shortened it to Fleagles, and it stuck.
  5. 1) WELCOME TO DA FORUMS! 2) Regarding Cub Scout Leaders uniforms and ODL mk1 uniforms, pretty much what is worn today The current CS leader necker was the same. Webelos DL had a patch on it with the gold edging, not the embroidered emblem of today. The hat and the slide have changed. Correct hat for a CM and DLs would be this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-CUB-SCOUTS-WOLF-HAT-SNAPBACK-ADJUSTABLE-UNION-MADE-IN-THE-USA-VGC-/272483876135?hash=item3f714dfd27:g:zYQAAOSw-0xYTyvB Webelos DLs would have this one minus the pins http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cub-Boy-Scout-Hat-with-Pins-Exce
  6. We had a situation where the non-custodial parent showed up when the troop was going on a camp out, and was planning on taking his sons away for the weekend. Custodial parent got wind of this prior to the weekend, and literally left town with the entire family at the last minute. I'd have a registered CS leader, as someone else recommended either the Cubmaster or Committee Chairman, contact the scout executive ASAP to find out how to deal with the issue as laws vary from state to state. If there is indeed a restraining order, and in 2 other cases we had restraining orders to be aware of, m
  7. I've seen it one time. Scout was primary with a troop, secondary with the summer camp Explorer Post/Crew (this was in the 1998-99 time frame). Long story short everything was completed with the troop, but something happened, and the EBOR was done via the post/crew. Also know a Scout who had his Eagle COH through the crew, and not the troop. CO gave a week's notice that they could not have the ECOH at the troop's meeting site. Summer camp crew came through, found a location and did it.
  8. With all due respect, Bill deserves a permanent exhibit.
  9. I was planning to visit the museum in Irving whenever I visit the family. I can't afford to goto Philmont.
  10. Yes, I'd have some challenges with Boy Scouts having family activities. I still remember when one trip was ruined because it turned into a family camp out. And I am concerned about my troop as they have had a history in the past of having a family camp out each year. One of the ASMs and the old SM both commented on it. My challenge is that we have 6 months of camp outs "preplanned:" one month we staff Webeloree, 2 months are "pre-camporee camp outs" that we must do to earn points in competitions, 2 months are camporee, and 1 month is summer camp. Add in the annual lock in that the Scouts do no
  11. SO TRUE!!!!!! You're going to laugh, but I started the process as Tigers. Working with the district's Webeloree chief, I took my Tigers to the webeloree so they could not only see what they had to look forward to as Webelos, but also see the Scouts in action running the events. That was part of the hike they had to do back then. My council does a combined camporee, with an area for Cub Scouts Only, Area for Boy Scouts only, and a common area for both. Cubs can hike inthe Boy Scout area and look around. Take the Cubs there every year. Our Webeloree is run like a camporee, and that intr
  12. I admit I liked how my troop growing up did it. No restrictions on being a PL. You could be reelected as many times as the patrol wanted you, or until you moved up to the Leadership Corps. SPL did have 2 restrictions: A. Must have been a PL and B. must be First Class or higher. rationale for those requirements was 1) you needed some experience as a PL to be able to mentor and work with them and 2) You really needed to have mastered all the basic Scout skills in order to teach them. Yes, APLs were appointed by the PL. Troop level staff had a restriction: must be chosen from the Leadership C
  13. @@Stosh No worries. That was me lamenting. Both the wife and I are concerned about this Webelos, her since it is one of her Scouts, me as a potential ASM for him. And we both see where the family camping is going on the Cub Level, and the pack encourages Webelos' parents to step away, prevent siblings from coming etc. I really do not like siblings tagging along on Webelos only events, nor having parents acting like parents. But I admit am a bit hypocritical at the moment. Troop has a survival camp out that Webelos are invited to attend. Wife feels obligated to attend with her den sin
  14. DON'T. GO. THERE! (emphasis) Wife has a Webelos who has some emotional/maturity issues. If dad or mom is not there, he has a meltdown. Even with mom or dad there, meltdowns have happened. While I believe there is more to it than maturity, The wife and I don't think the Webelos is ready for Boy Scouts at this time.
  15. Council can probably help, and that's IF they kept records. My first den had some issues in that the records were NOT being recorded by the council. I hand delivered multiple ARs, and when it came time for their records, it was not showing up on the reports. Ticked off the SE when he made a comment about Cub Advancement not being done in my district at a commissioners' meeting, and had to tell him they were not being recorded at the council level. How I handled that situation, and others, was SCOUTNET. I just imputed the data just before they crossed over so their records would be cor
  16. Yep, VERY hard to break a precedent. Oldest has his AOL plaque hanging up, and really could care less. Middle son at the moment sees big brother's, wants one, and is going on and on how he completed his last requirement for AOL. As for parents being more concerned about their choices than the kids' picks, It's going to get interesting when they get into Boy Scouts.
  17. Looks like we will need to do something when one pack's Webelos Cross Over. Had a brief conversation on summer camp, and several of the parents want to tag along, not a scouters but as parents. One dad commented how his son isn't ready for summer camp by himself, and one mom stated that since they joined Cubs as Tigers, the family has done all of the camp outs. Another family went to a Webelos weekend in a camper. They made the comment that another troop has no problem with parents, including moms, camping with them. Had to comment that the hardest part is moving from being a Cub Scout leader
  18. Only CO that I know about that doesn't allow camping at the Cub Scout level is the LDS church. In my neck of the woods, I actually lost a Cub and his family my first year as a DL because "you don't camp enough." And my pack was one of the most active ones with 3 pack camp outs per year. I admit, I initially was concerned about the new program. It was radically different and I knew it would take heavy pre-planning in order to execute it. BUT after hearing what my sons are goign through, I do like it, and think the 2015 program is better, just needed time to for leaders to readjust. You
  19. If the pack I'm with thinks about it in time, we make our own. Most of the plaques are outrageously priced. When I found out how much the pack was spending per plaque, I almost had a heart attack. That's when I suggested we make our own. For about $80, we can buy the supplies to make 8 - 10 plaques ourselves. The time consuming part is making the arrows. For 2 years, we made our own. Last year it was not thought about until the last minute, and they had to rush to get plaques. GREAT SCOTT! 6 plaques was over $400 when everything was put together. One OA chapter I was in decided to make th
  20. We currently have one of those. Older Scouts do not like him at all, and I and a few others have been asked by the Scouts to keep him away from them. The one time I wasn't able to do that, the Scouts acted properly, but didn't talk at all the entire hike and essentially ran through the trail with their gear. They did a 5 mile hike with gear in under 90 minutes. I don't know if they did that to finish the hike as soon as possible, or try to walk him into the ground. But he is a tri-athlete and kept up. I can relate to them and their feelings as I always hated when we got new Scouts from a p
  21. The big question in my EBOR was "What would you say if we didn't approve you being an Eagle Scout?" Talk about being surprised and angry! Long story short I calmly, to the best of my ability at the time, explained to them that it was approved and completed. If they did not like it was too late and that I would find out how to appeal any negative decision. I did receive my Eagle without having to appeal.
  22. Actually the new handbooks and leader guides came out between May 2015 and August 2015. Because we lost out local distributor and have to drive 45 to 60 minutes to get Scout merchandise, my pack buys a bunch and sells it. Thankfully we didn't have too much of the 2009 stuff when the change came about last year. But I think we have a bunch of new stuff since it just came out. Talk about a mess.
  23. Folks, New requirements for the various Cub Scout Adventures and ranks have been implemented as of November 30th, 2016. Here is the Blog post http://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2016/11/30/cub-scout-modifications/#comment-168431 Here is the 56 page documents with the changes. http://www.scouting.org/filestore/cubscouts/pdf/CubScout_Advancement_Modifications.pdf
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