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Big difference between Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts is who runs the program. Cub Scouts is run by adults, Boy Scouts is suppose to be run by the Boy Scouts themselves. If a troop is truly run by the boys, and they do not want girls, are you going to stop them from running their troop they way they want? And every single boy I've talked to is opposed to allowing girls. In fact, the only people I've encountered gung ho about girls in Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts are parents. Even the girls I've talked to are not that interested.

We have one troop that has stated "NO GIRLS!" Only problem with them is that they are limited by the CO as to the number of Boy Scouts they can have. CO views it as an outreach ministry, and fully supports the Boy Scouts. Very active in fundraising. So trying to transfer into them is very difficult. We also have 2 troops that are on the wall about going coed. Both see more negatives than positives. All three have an advantage over the rest of the troops in the district as they do not have feeder packs and Cub Scout parents pushing girls on them. Two additional will be having

Actually crossing over by dens occurred before 1983. I was a Wolf, and saw the entire Webelos den earn AOL and cross over.

5- 10 seconds. My troop has already said they will be coed and segregated by patrol regardless of what national says. Only the CO will stop that. 1 Scouter has said he will drop, he does not plan on chaperoning coed camping trips. Another has mixed emotions since he has a daughter who has expressed interest in the BSA, but sees how this will hurt his son. I stated that while the CO will make the decision how Scouting will be at the church, if the troop does go coed, the boys will ultimately decide to stay, transfer, or quit altogether.

When I worked for national supply, my boss was completely clueless as to how a summer camp works. She envisioned it like a summer school where Scouts are in classes all day, and I only needed to be open between meals and classes and at night. Told her night time would be dead until after the campwide activity. Compromise ensued: I kept the store open during the campwide activity no matter what and it counted as hours I worked. As long as I made 10 sales an hour during the time she did not want the store opened, it counted as hours worked, and I was suppose to get comp time at the end of summe

If I could up vote you 100 times, I would

Sadly, I have seen this first hand as a pro. A lot of new DEs are just out of college with little to no experience in the program. Prior to going to "DE School" aka Professional Development Level 1 training, I needed to complete basic training for all levels of traditional Scouting: Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts, and Sea Exploring/Exploring (now Sea Scouts and Venturing). Thankfully all I needed was Cub Scout Basic Leader training. But you can only learn so much from training, no matter how good the trainer. And DEs are not encouraged to work with units. I busted my butt working with one unit to help

While I was in Cub Scouts from August 1982 - May 1985, moving from Wolf to Bear to Webelos was not a big deal. No ceremony, nothing. Blue and Gold was a party, with some folks getting ranks/awards as earned. And we didn't have entire dens receiving the ranks at the same time; it was in ones and twos. The only big deal was Arrow of Light and Crossover. That was always in May, and a Cross Over ceremony was always immediately after. Sometime in the late 80s or early 90s, I am going to say August 1989 since a lot of changes on the Boy Scout side occurred on that date, Cub Scouts changed. Inst

From the literature and videos, 4 per pack. [sarcasm on] GEE. Didn't see that one happening.[sarcasm off]

OK this may help. From the Guide to Advancement https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/33088.pdf In the same spirit as “Do Your Best,” if a Cub Scout is close to earning a badge of rank when it is time for him to transition to a new den, the pack committee, in consultation with the den leader and the Cub Scout’s parent or guardian, may allow him a few weeks to complete the badge before going on to the next rank. Earning it will give him added incentive to continue in Scouting and carry on and tackle the next rank. (pp 19) I know some pack will move everyone up at B

Since the end of the year is May 31st, is there any way they could finish up by then? I've seen Cubs ceremonially moved up to the next level, i.e."promoted" or "graduated," with out earning the previous rank, but working on it still. Cub Scouts had some interesting rules under the pre- June 2015 Program that carried over to the June 2015 - December 2016 Program. I think this one is still in effect since the program changes occurred in December 2016. Although June 1st is when they officially move up on paper and can begin working on their next rank ( May 31st is recognized by National a

Sounds like gambling, which not allowed. Selling items like pants, shirts, backpacks, etc is one thing. Paying to play a game, completely different. While it is an individual, doing this and not a unit, this may help https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/510-274.pdf

1) WELCOME TO DA FORUMS. 2) I too want to know more about Magic Draft. 3) I've seen Scouts sell stuff to other Scouts before, usually uniforms and gear. I myself had a "business" in high school of going to the local thrift store and buying used uniforms. I resold them with a slight mark up, usually $0.50 to $1.00.

I shared the links and documents with the troops core adults. They pointed that nothing in the information posted requires separate troops, except on paper. "Girls's troop" could have the same committee and SM (national states should not versus cannot refering to SMs), meet at the same location at the same time, do joint activities, etc. In essence National leaving a very wide loophole that COs and Units can use to essentially have coed troops with segrated patrols. Which appears to be the plan with my troop if the CO agrees to it. .

Somewhere in either the G2A or Webelos Den Guide, or whatever it is called, there is specific rules saying that someone who joins 4th grade or earlier MUST (emphasis) earn the Webelos badge prior to earning the AOL. Grant you it is doable to earn both of them in a year as our LDS brethen show us, I do not think cramming 14 activity badges, which is suppose to take 1 month per badge to earn so that is 14 months of activities, into 6 months is doing a service to anyone.

It's not the requirements that changes, but the election process. Before the late 1990s, folks voting were limited to the number of names on the ballot; a one name to two eligible ratio essentially. Now you can write in everyone's name. A lot of Arrowman were upset when the current rules came out.

Funny you say that. One of my Eagles and his ex-girlfriend paid me a visit one night and we had very interesting chat, She was a PhD student in psych, working on her dissertation human behavior and leadership. Both of us started talking about how working at a Boy Scout summer camp as staff would be an excellent field study for her. And then we reminisced about summer camp, the troop, etc.

Never thought of it like that before. Maybe that is why we are having so many problems with helicopter parents: THEY cannot cope with their child's absence. (caps for emphasis).

@ItsBrian, how much does your council charge for day camp? I know that when I went to NCS and first found out about paid day camp staff, the day camp could cost as much as Boy Scout resident camp. Back when I was a DCPD, cost was $65, $75 with late fee, and no one was paid. Cost is now a whopping $85, and still all volunteers.

Workshops help a lot. And I'm glad the pack my sons are with has one. Also feeder pack with the troop has one too. But they seem the exception rather than the norm.

With all due respect, I know of families where the father is non-existent or uninvolved. While I personally do not like the precuts, I can understand why some families will go that route. It was happening so much, that my pack decided to have one meeting dedicated to having folks work on PWD cars. Folks bring any and all their tools and help the Scouts out. That has seen a drastic reduction in the precuts. Forgot to add, I was one of those Cubs with an uninvolved dad. I had no access to any tools except a pocket knife my uncle gave me. I whittled that PWD. it took me forever to whittle,

Yes, both options, as well as not wearing a necker at all, have been around since 1972. When I was overseas, many Scouts were surprised we had the option to not wearing a necker. The Scouter from Croatia told me that the only mandatory uniform item was a necker, and she had sponsor pay for an official uniform shirt so she could participate in the exchange program. This was in the mid 1990s in the middle of the Balkans War, and Scouting was taking off as best it could under the circumstances there.

While the handbooks are authoritative, just like today BSA publishes additional literature to clarify and expand upon the handbooks. By any chance do you have a copy of the 1927 Scouting with a Neckerchief?" I ask because I do not have a copy. Closest I can find is a modern document with an except from the SwaN stating a necker is worn over a tucked under collar. That si what I am basing my info on. But in trying to find a pdf or scan of the original 1927 document, I found another source saying over the collar. Now I do know BSA made collarless shirts for Scouts. I have a couple and it

No, the neckerchief over the collar was never authorized.And it was not until 1972's Improved Scouting Program that the neckerchief could be worn under an open collar, or the troop could vote for none at all. We are the only country that has scouts not wearing a neckerchief.

Working on it. The FB page is TALK ABOUT SCOUTING!. Lori McGraw is the committee member and stated "National is considering continuing the pack Family Scouting model to troops. Continuing the Family Scouting model into troops makes sense. The Family Scouting Model for packs is the CO's choice : All Girl Pack, All Boy Pack, or Family Pack (boys and girls in separate dens) So Troop model would be : All Girl Troop, All Boy Troop, Family Troop (Girls and boys in separate patrols) . There should be a decision out on it soon (possibly this month). You may chime in at Family.Scouting@Scoutin