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Eagle94-A1

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  1. I'm going to play Devil's Advocate a bit, so please bear with me. What have you done for the pack lately? Are you sending them Den Chiefs? How about physcially going to a few meetings and inviting them personally instead of flyers? Does your CO have any events that you do that will not only promote the troop, give visibility to the public AND provide service as a thank you to the CO? Are there any public events, especially ones that may get photos in the paper, that can be done Like assisting the American Legion, or whoever in your area does it, put out flags on graves for Memorial Day? D
  2. Sad, and I've seen it happen. We had a kid have "panic attacks" during his Ordeal. As soon as he was able to, he called mom to pick him up after the Ordeal Ceremony. Only saw him once at an OA function, and that was the district camporee's Call Out Ceremony when we get all the Arrowmen in the campfire circle behind the ceremony team. Found out that nite the only reason he did OA was A) resume/college admissions, and B) Dad, grand dad, and I believe great grand dad, were all in the OA with grand dad being VERY involved with the lodge and council.
  3. Somewhat mixed on this one. While I like the adults to model the patrol method, i.e working as a team with their own campsite, duty roosters, cook crew, etc,etc, like some have said, I do think it crosses the line when they start lining up with the patrols, competing with the patrols, etc. I admit I am a Scouting addict and love the outdoors (wife tell me the first words out of my mouth when I found out oldest was going to be a boy were "YES I GOT A FUTURE SCOUT!" ), and I love camping with my sons. But with oldest, I try to avoid him at camp. At summer camp, I only saw him 4 times a day:
  4. Somewhat mixed on this one. While I like the adults to model the patrol method, i.e working as a team with their own campsite, duty roosters, cook crew, etc,etc, like some have said, I do think it crosses the line when they start lining up with the patrols, competing with the patrols, etc. I admit I am a Scouting addict and love the outdoors (wife tell me the first words out of my mouth when I found out oldest was going to be a boy were "YES I GOT A FUTURE SCOUT!" ), and I love camping with my sons. But with oldest, I try to avoid him at camp. At summer camp, I only saw him 4 times a day:
  5. Somewhat mixed on this one. While I like the adults to model the patrol method, i.e working as a team with their own campsite, duty roosters, cook crew, etc,etc, like some have said, I do think it crosses the line when they start lining up with the patrols, competing with the patrols, etc. I admit I am a Scouting addict and love the outdoors (wife tell me the first words out of my mouth when I found out oldest was going to be a boy were "YES I GOT A FUTURE SCOUT!" ), and I love camping with my sons. But with oldest, I try to avoid him at camp. At summer camp, I only saw him 4 times a day:
  6. FYI the requirements: RANGER http://usscouts.org/advance/venturing/RangerAward.asp NOA http://www.scouting.org/jamboree/sitecore/content/home/boyscouts/youth/awards/noa.aspx
  7. Phughes, #1 Welcome to the forums. #2 You do know that the NOA medal came about because Boy Scout leaders complained that they wanted their Scouts to earn the Venturing Ranger Award?
  8. 'Nut, Way back in the dark ages when I was a Webelos, Webelos were limited to a one night camp out with Boy Scouts or dad at a "Cub and Dad" weekend, which was a Saturday-Sunday event. Somethings take a while to change, just look at the requirements and artwork in the various CS handbooks, they are 99.999% identical to the one I had growing up. Yep, my pack also camp 2 nights, and council events for Cubs are 2 nites too.
  9. You should be fine, although you may want to contact the trainer a in order to A) Make sure your husband go credit for OWLS ( some placed will give credit for OWLS and IOLS, some won't) and B) Make sure your council does not have stricter requirements on camping. Don't know why it would be limited only to 1 nite, except that someone hasn't updated the language from 30+ years ago.
  10. Skip, You are correct, kids want camping. My pack is one of the more active packs with 3 camp outs a year, two of which are organized, council ones. Our program is really out of date, in fact my old book is almost, (try 95%) the same as my sons' books, and I even complained about the lack of adventure. Luckily that is suppose to be changing. On a tangent, parents do the bulk of the work on the CS camp outs I've been on. I know 2 guys who crossed over from Cubs to Scouts left after a few months b/c although they liked to camp, they didn't want to do any of the work. They were so
  11. Renax, Does your den camp with a troop or do their own camp outs? I know that Webelos dens can camp on their own, but I've only seen them camp with troops, unless it's a district level event, like my district's Webeloree (and even then, the troops staffing the event usually camp with their CO's pack, but not always). I ask because what I've seen done with parents attending is the Boy Scout leaders take them away from the Scouts, and start orienting them about the Boy Scout program, focusing on differences. Basically keeping htem occupied and out of the Scouts way of having fun.
  12. Skip, Not a daft question at all. Cubs Scouts is considered "family camping," and essentially everyone goes. It's usually Webelos (ages 9 and 10) that they stay with buddies for the first time. Believe it or not, it's been only within the last 15-20 years than an emphasis on Cub Scouts camping has taken place. And we still have a lot of folks, some who should know better, that have the attitude that, "Cubs don't need to camp." In my neck of the woods, it's only been in the past 6 years that anything like Kingsdown ISC's "Cub Hub" has taken place. And there are lots of rules
  13. Fred, I know that when I and my buddies did their Eagle projects back in the day, "meaningful or significant to the scout" were part of the discussion on doing projects. And as others have stated, if you have a passion fro what you are doing, you will be doing a heck of a lot better a job.
  14. With Cubs, I have 2 hydration songs that I used at day camp. For pirate theme camps, the Pirate Cub Scout Hydration Song Yo ho yo ho a Cub Scout's life for me We're Cubs, we're the best and we have the knack, DRINK UP ME HARDIES YO HO (pause for drinking) We hike and we camp, And sometimes backpack DRINK UP ME HARDIES YO HO (pause for drinking) Yo ho yo ho a Cub Scout's life for me For knight theme camps, The Dragon Cub Scout Hydration Song. Late last night when we were all in bed, That old dragon had a cold up in his head. And when h
  15. Not throwing knives, but tomahawks. I know back in the day when my lodge was running a tomahawk booth, we had to set everything up as if it was a BB gun range: range flag, commands, etc. I believe that was per G2SS. Only problem we had was we didn't have enough 'hawks for the numbers waiting to throw. Me personally, I wouldn't want the Scouts using their personal knives, unless they are specifically made for throwing, as they won't have the right balence and can be damaged.
  16. OUT-FREAKING-STANDING! Now that's a service project, That young man will go far!
  17. Map???? Compass??? WE DON'T NEED NO STINKING MAP AND COMPASS! True story. My sister and her family were visiting from out of town, and we were going to the beach with them for a weekend. Now I did some research to see if any construction was occurring on the roads we were taking, got the map out, planned it, etc. She said we didn't need all that, she had GPS and would lead. I tried to tell her about the construction, but she wouldn't listen. I followed her to humor her. WWWWWEEEEEELLLLLL, when we got to the construction it was a mess, and she was kinda helpless b/c her GPS would not
  18. For whatever reason, when I tried to redo my password, it kept saying the info to redo my password was sent to my email, but I never received an email either in my regular mail or junk mail. Hence the A1 in my name. Unfortunately I typed to fast and hit the register button too fast to notice I put the wrong number in my name. Hence Eagle94 instead of Eagle92. So now I am... EAGLE94-A1
  19. Stosh, Been here a number of years. Long story short, having problems logging in. Had to redo the entire sign up process because it kept saying that it sent the password info to my email, but it never did. And unfortuantely I was typing too fast with the ID to notice a mistake in it until after the fact. Que sara sara. I agree a lot of legalese. Probably because a lot of parents getting upset that their son wasn't getting Eagle. Sometimes the parents, or in my case ME, was right to question the Eagle BOR and state they were going to appeal the decision. Heck I know one scout right n
  20. Will Boy Scouts be there or just Webelos? If Boy Scouts are there, see my post over at http://www.scouter.com/forum/cub-scouts/415707-webelos-troop-combined-camp-out/page2 If it's just Webelos try a Readyman Hike. Basically you prearrange stations along a hike in which people will have "Accidents" that use the Readyman skills. We do this with Webelos at day camp and they love it.
  21. Here is what became a troop tradition with our Webelos overniters: "Wilderness Survival Weekend" Long story short, we found out the nite before the overniter that the troop tents and tarps, and other gear, were destroyed between the last camp out and the one coming up. We decided to do a "survival" camp out, which became so popular that it became an annual event. We divided the Webelos among the patrols and buddied them up with a Boy Scout. We worked on knots and lashings with them, then moved up to building patrol shelters. Break lunch, and work on shelters some more. Once all
  22. Does this mean Boy Scouts can earn the Ranger Award now? Sheesh, Boy Scout leaders were complaining about having an award as outdoor oriented as Ranger, hence the NOA. Now Venturers are eligible for the NOA. My question is this who wanted Venturers to get the NOA, adults or the youth?
  23. Good topic to jump into. My question is this, if the patrol or troop that elected a person to a POR do not want removed him from that position, despite poor performance, should he be removed just so that he can be denied time in a POR for advancement? If the answer is yes, then you are going against one of the foundations of Scouting, the patrol method. If you deny him tenure due to performance after serving his term, you are going against an policy in the GTA that changes often. Me personally, if it's a choice against a foundation of the Scouting program that's been around since A
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