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  1. I am just curious as it is difficult to research the stances of all of the different religions and denominations. For what research that I have done: The LDS church has said basically flat out said that it won't allow girls in any units that it sponsors. Baptists (who were totally against the homosexuality changes - not allowing any of their sponsored units to have homosexual leaders or scouts), seem to be taking a much more neutral (almost positve?) stance on the girl issue. They are leaving it up to their individual churches to decide with the following statement - "It's simply another opportunity to reach people. Churches have the option to not go that way, stay with what they're doing or to include the girls." Does anyone know the stances of other major religious groups?
  2. I sit on my district's advancement committee. Typically the "hard" questions that I like to ask are to determine how the scout feels about various aspects of the scouting program or changes to the program. However, this issue is controversial enough, that maybe it wouldn't be good to bring it up at a board of review. Any thoughts?
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    Camping By the River - LNT Toilet

    When in doubt, ask the local land manager how they would like you to dispose of waste.
  4. A lot depends on which staff camps you are going to for program. Like if you are say going to Indian Writings, they have the petroglyphs tour, archeology, atlatl throwing, usually a conservation project (building trail over to Chase Ranch), and an evening hike up to the top of the mesa. You are looking at about 6 hours of program, and if you don't get into the camp by about 10:30 AM, you likely won't have time to do everything. Whereas other staff camps may only have one program activity, which you could participate in even if you don't make it to camp until 4pm. Also some programs, like horseback riding at Clark's Fork, require reservations at logistics before you leave on your trek. So if you have a reservation for riding at 1PM, you better make sure that you are at camp by 1PM.
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    Scouting ties in the Trump Administration

    In an email today to DOI employees, Zinke had the following statement: "I approach this job in the same way that Boy Scouts taught me so long ago: leave the campsite in better condition than I found it."
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    Canoe safety question

    First you need to determine the skill level of the group that you are taking canoeing. You should have minimum 1 full day of experience on flat water before doing any moving water. After that, my general experience is that scouts can move up to the next 1/2 class of whitewater after 1 full day of experience (up to about class III-, where it takes more experience and training to continue to improve). So general guidelines are: 1 day on flat water (should have the 4 basic strokes mastered before moving on - forward, backwards, draw, pry) 1 day on class I 1 day on class I+ (should be able to enter and exit eddies and perform both backwards and forward facing ferries before moving on) 1 day on class II 1 day on class II+ Onto your specific trip, you should consult a whitewater guide book (or check online) on the river and see what the difficulty rating is at different flow rates and what normal (recommended) flows are. For example, my local river where we take the scouts canoeing has 7 class II rapids at normal flows. However, it is harder not only at higher flows (several rapids merge together into one 1/2 mile long rapid) but also at lower flows as well (the drops get bigger). Next you want to check what the actual flows are on the day of the trip and make sure that the river will be appropriate for your group. Good places for checking flows are http://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/rtor http://dreamflows.com/. Some state or local agencies will even calculate and post river flow forecasts.
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    Micromanaging Scoutmaster

    Wow that is an awesome infographic. Thank you for sharing. If the OP didn't state that his scoutmaster was only doing the job for over a year now, I would have thought that I am in the same troop as him. My troop is mostly a 6. However, occasionally the adult leader forgets to find a puppet scout to be "in charge" so then we are a 7. They actually need to add a 9 to that graphic. The scoutmaster schedules an event, and then requires everyone to be there by threatening to not advance them in rank if they don't show up. Oh also this scoutmaster scheduled event happens to also be on the same date that your scouts are already planning a trip.
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    How much is too much?

    When I backpack, I always take my phone and battery pack. Phone is 5 ounces, and the battery pack is 8 ounces and can charge the phone 4 times. The main use is obviously for emergency communication. Cell phones operate by line-of-sight so you can usually get service from ridges. Even if you don’t have strong enough service for a call, texts will go through. Beyond just being emergency communication, it also works as a camera, flashlight, and watch. The camera is probably the coolest part as I have my phone set to auto upload pictures to our troop's google drive. If our webmaster isn't on the trip, my pictures are usually on the troop webpage before we even get home. I also have on it: PDF documents: Guide to safe scouting Scout handbook Wilderness survival guide BSA tour plan Permission slips for all scouts Apps: Weather forecasts (includes sunrise and sunset times and tides if we are hiking near the ocean) Wilderness first aid GPS Trail map (I still have a hard copy too - phone maps are much better an local navigation because you have your exact location on the map, but nothing beats a paper map for getting the big picture) Plant and animal identification Star chart Any trip specific apps that I need
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    Closed Toe Shoes

    Like others have said, there is no BSA policy against open toed shoes. For example, flip-flops are considered OK at Seabase for your land shoes. However, many camps and units have their own local rules.
  10. This death just sounds like a tragic accident. Rafting is a high risk activity and even if you do everything right, there is a chance of injury or death. Normally you purposelessly raft on the rivers during scheduled releases in order to hit your desired flows. To suggest that they were somehow caught off guard by unexpected high flows is silly. I suspect that they knew exactly what the flows were going to be.
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    Eagle and recommendation from the pastor

    Just to echo what some others have said. The actual letters are strongly recommended (no pun intended) by my council, but they are not officially required. All that is required is to write people names and contact information on the application.
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    Hiking Merit Badge - New Requirements

    I guess I'm not sure. I am just going by what was told to me at district roundtable. Edit: I looked up the official rules: "Unless it is otherwise stated in the merit badge pamphlet, Boy Scout Requirements, or official communications from the National Council, if a Scout chooses to use the old merit badge requirements and pamphlet, he may continue using them until he has completed the badge." http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/GuideToAdvancement/TheMeritBadgeProgram.aspx 7.0.4.3 What to Do When Requirements Change
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    Hiking Merit Badge - New Requirements

    This is a good change. I know it breaks the "no more no less" rule, but when I did hiking MB, we started with hikes less than 10 miles and then did progressively longer hikes before doing our 20. So it was more like 7,9,11,13,15 then 20. Also a little off topic, but one other thing to note is that if scouts started the merit badge under the old requirements, they are allowed to finish it with the old requirements (meaning no 15-miler).
  14. Obviously during hunting season you should wear bright orange. But for all other occasions, this topic is a debate that I have been having with some other adults in my troop. Our class B, which all the scouts wear on outings, is a neon yellow. The main argument for bright colors is that you are easier to find if you get lost (the counter argument to this point is that other signaling methods such as a whistle are more effective). The main arguments against bright colors is the 7th LNT principle (be considerate to others). In other words wearing bright colors interrupts the solitude of people who go to the backcountry to get away from people.
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    Adult-led troops

    Actually I almost forgot this one: At a recent meeting, the scoutmaster was talking to the troop about some upcoming events. Then the SM invited up one of the ASMs to talk about another upcoming activity. When that ASM was done talking, he looked over to where the SM usually sits, but the SM had stepped into the other room. The ASM then had this sorta of panicked look on his face, and he was like "well I don't know what is next on the program, but the SM will be back soon hopefully". The whole time the SPL is sitting in front of the meeting...
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