scoutldr

Welcome, MarinesWife! I visited 29 Palms last year. Interesting place...

Hidden Valley Scout Reservation, operated by the Keystone Area COuncil, in Loysville, PA. They have cabins with full kitchens and adirondacks. Year-round shower house with HOT water! Located in Perry County west of I-81 near Carlisle.

You mentioned you attended a District Committee meeting. Why? As a unit CC, you will really have no role on the District Committee (although you can attend if you need another meeting to go to), unless you are elected as a District Member at Large (which I wouldn't recommend for unit leaders). Your COR is the one who should be attending, as they are ex officio members of the District Committee and have a vote. You mention that the District is "controlled" by one unit...this can't happen if all the CORs show up and do their jobs. As a unit CC, you should be attending monthly Cub Roundtable meetings, and as the others said, get trained ASAP.

Octuplet Update LOS ANGELES Police said Thursday they will investigate death threats against octuplet mom Nadya Suleman and advise her publicist on how to handle a torrent of other nasty messages that have flooded his office. Word that the 33-year-old single, unemployed mother is receiving public assistance to care for the 14 children she conceived through in vitro fertilization has stoked furor among many people. Police Lt. John Romero said officers were meeting with Suleman's publicist Mike Furtney about the flood of angry phone calls and e-mail messages against Suleman, her children and Furtney. More at: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090212/ap_on_re_us/octuplets

Haven't parents always had that right? What's the controversy? |

A while back, we had a young, single guy helping out with our troop who said he was an Eagle. As part of checking references, I e-mailed his home council asking for verification. Never got a response. He has since moved on, but we had no problems. One tactic you might take is to ask for dates and places (and WB course number) to "complete your records" in Troop Master and Scoutnet. Do this for all leaders, if you don't have the info. If he's been trained through WB, he should also be wearing the Scouters' Training Award knot. If he tries to join the local lodge, they will also probably need dates and/or proof. If you know what council he served and was trained in, they may be able to talk to you. I consider it all part of "checking character references".

"Taking out his anger of his dad being away on me and other scout leaders. and to the point where the other scouts don't want to be around him. The scout was caught last year buying drugs at school and this year was caught smokeing. I kinda still feel the boy is still doing drugs but haven't caught him at a scout event." I don't see the scout's age, so does he have time to "redeem" himself? If he's close to aging out and we make this kid an Eagle, what kind of message does that send to the younger scouts and the community? Does "character count"...or not?

Goshen, VA is in Rockbridge County in the mountains of Virginia. Comparing the climate there to AP Hill is apples and oranges.

Whoever said life would be fair? I've never been to Philmont, because I could never afford the week of "touring" tacked on to each end of the trek. Three weeks of vacation time and a coupla thousand bucks was outta my range.

Pack, I was agreeing with the quote. Sorry for the confusion. With regard to vaccines...in the Public Health world there is a concept called "herd immunity". It is not necessary to vaccinate every individual. I think the number is 20-30% is enough to prevent an epidemic. That was discussed in the preparations for the Pandemic Flu that has yet to materialize...there is no way we can produce enough vaccine in time should an epidemic start its way around the world.

Let's reopen the Warren Commission and Project Blue Book, too while we're at it.

No harm in asking. Ya don't ask, ya don't get.

Bulldog is right. The young folks probably don't realize it, but all you really need is a kitchen table and a coat hanger. Before Roe v Wade, many pregnant teens took this route and many died from perforation, hemorrhage and infection, or if they were lucky, merely became sterile. We eliminate legal medical abortion and they will return to this barbaric practice. Where there's a will there's a way, indeed. Preach all you want, but they will find a way to get it done. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but as a Public Health professional, I'm telling you the way it is in the trenches. Eternal life is low on their list of priorities when they're 14 and pregnant.

aquaticeagle: All is not lost. You've learned a valuable lesson. The Scouts under your charge will get better treatment, I'm sure. There is no reason to deny or delay a BOR if the Scout is ready.

"they don't participate in the camporee per se" Well, why in the world not??? Are they not members of your Troop? What better way to get them functioning as a patrol!

Not sure what difference 60 days is going to make to their "maturity level". As someone else said, the goal is to get them crossed over and integrated into the troop so they can go to their first summer camp as "first year campers" that summer.

I think your only recourse is to appeal to the District Advancement Committee and state your case that you were denied your palms due to adult error or negligence. I wouldn't be too hopeful, however.

A DIET???? Is THAT the secret??? Dang! 54 years of bullying and humiliation for NOTHING!

Did you have a board of review and SM conference for the Palm(s)? If not, I would think you're out of luck. I'm in the same boat, but earned Eagle in 1970.

Back in the day, we couldn't wait to become "senior scouts" so we could be on Camp Staff. For "high adventure", we had district-organized 50 milers (canoe/foot) and Philmont. If the senior scouts to keep going back to Camp Runamuck year after year, no wonder they're dropping out.

As usual the BSA writers and lawyers have a difficult time writing what they really mean...or maybe they do really mean it. AS WRITTEN, anyone who needs to take a prescription drug is not allowed on BSA property. And DeanRx...being "legal" from a DUI standpoint does not mean you're not "impaired" with a slower reaction time or thought process. Every high school kid learns that in Drivers' Ed these days. After 2 beers, I turn my keys over to someone else because I'm buzzed, but based on my weight, I'm still "legal". It all depends on how a body metabolizes it and individual tolerance. As to the "work party" party for adults over 21? Personally I don't see a problem with it, except that it clearly violates the G2SS and is probably a liability issue for the BSA, if someone "parties" on BSA property, then drives home. And District Dinners serving alcohol? Not in my council. It's a "full dress" uniform event, with guests from the community as well as Scouts present. One of the few events where adults are expected to wear ALL their doo-dads.

It's been a while and we have a lot of new faces ... chime in!

Duplicate post...sorry. It's fun to read through the old posts and wonder "where are they now". Hops was in the 8th grade...and is now in college!(This message has been edited by scoutldr)

Another example of the DE not doing his job. I have posted the BSA Rules and regulations chapter and verse here a couple of times before, concerning the folding of a unit. In a nutshell, the DE is supposed to meet with the CO...if there is a commitment to restsrt a unit, the CO can retain everything. If not, the Unit assets are to go to the Council for the good of Scouting.

Yeah. What Lisabob said.