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  1. "One must remember that when they take a comment out of context, it can and often times leads to a completely different intent than what was originally meant." Stosh, it was not my intent to take your comment out of context. I know what you meant by "break the cycle" of behavior. However, from what little info Sharky has relayed, there is some reason to doubt the young man's ability to react in a rational way to such an event. I don't know his mental state, so I'm just urging a little caution in thinking that there cannot be serious negative consequences of a permanent sort in this s
  2. I think those who bring up that this behavior could just be the result of parental "giving in" have valid points. And I did not rule that out in suggesting getting the young man professional help. And here's why. At 14-years-old, IF the pattern of inappropriate behavior is due to parents not curbing it at a younger age, the behavior is now so deeply rooted that they are unlikely to be able to change it themselves without some professional intervention. IF the behavior does have some sort of organic (either neurological or somatic) cause, then it is worth (in my opinion) ruling t
  3. "Unless you're a medical professional willing to take this kid on as a patient, keep your diagnoses to yourself." Can't speak for anyone else, but I only see advice being offered here, not diagnoses. That advice being, to see the appropriate medical professional who CAN make a diagnosis.
  4. What Calico said. As far as the possibility of it being Asperger's, lots of behavioral problems are characterized by tantrums. It could also be an underlying somatic condition (like hypoglycemia) that is impacting his behavior. Finally, not all behavioral conditions have an neurological basis, but it is still a behavior problem. Professional help can both aid in distinguishing which it is, as well as treating it, whatever the cause. Talk to the parents. Get the boy some help.
  5. "I've always been a bit disappointed in da prejudice shown by the gay rights movement against religions like the Mormons and Catholics." Or perhaps it is in reaction to the Catholic and LDS churches pouring millions of dollars into political campaigns to restrict the rights of gays. Prop 8 comes to mind.
  6. "They show pretty clearly that there wasn't any scientific basis, just da normal actions of a political lobby with a viewpoint" Yeah, because the opinions of all those professionals psychiatrists were only influence by their political opinions, and not informed by years of reading and conduction research in their own field, huh? Pot, meet kettle.
  7. "Can we get a scientifically derived conclusion or position on this subject from the American Psychiatric Association?" Yes. The general position on homosexuality is here: http://www.psych.org/Departments/EDU/Library/APAOfficialDocumentsandRelated/PositionStatements/199216.aspx The position statement on same-sex marriage is here: http://www.psych.org/Departments/EDU/Library/APAOfficialDocumentsandRelated/PositionStatements/200416.aspx Position statement on gays in the military: http://www.psych.org/Departments/EDU/Library/APAOfficialDocumentsandRelated/PositionState
  8. "That's fine, but the Center for Disease Controls has at least a prima facie appearance of being a respectable source of information. I believe there are other ostensibly credible entities among those I ran across." Yes, some of them, like the CDC, are credible sources. But when you pull information from them out of context, without a basis for comparison, then it just becomes meaningless. All you've done with the info from credible sources is quote statistics that cast gays in a bad light, without providing comparable statistics about heterosexuals. That's introducing bias. Anyone could
  9. "It's easy to impugn motives (in my case, your assumptions are quite mistaken). But the more you do this, the less facts you present. Show me something real and substantive. If you have something factual that argues against these studies, please present it." I am not so much impugning your motives as I am asking you if you understand why someone WOULD impugn your motives, given the type of material you continue to present. I'm not making assumptions. I'm asking you why you chose to present the articles you did, and continue to disregard the other resources pointed out to you. But you
  10. "I'm trying to find facts. I'm keeping an open mind until I do so." Really? And yet, every article you quote here presents an obvious anti-gay bias, some from very disreputable sources. Why is that? Do you see why it gives the strong impression that you have already made up your mind and are looking for material to support your own opinion? "My motive here is finding out the truths that have been established---is this a bad thing? If so, why can we not discuss the facts? We have a multi-billion dollar scientific establishment in this country, and I'm trying to locate facts about homo
  11. Ok, I'm going to preface all of this by saying, "So?" Does any of this (assuming any bit of it is gathered by legitimate scientific methods, and that's a big assumption for most of it) make homosexuals any less worthy of respect or the right to be treated with the dignity and equality due any other human being? Now, on to the meat of this: "* A 1997 New York Times article reported that a young male homosexual has about a 50% chance of getting HIV by middle age." Yeah, because the NYT does so much scientific research. Without knowing where they got these numbers from, can't comme
  12. "we have a jalapeno patrol and their yell is "muy caliente!" or sometimes "arriba - muy caliente!"" Personally, I think the best yell for a jalapeno patrol would be "On a STEECK!" But I watch waaaaay too much Jeff Dunham.
  13. Older son's first patrol was the Rock patrol. The badger patrol emblem turned upside down looks surprisingly like a rock Their yell was "THUNK!" Younger son's first patrol is the "Killer Poptarts", for which one crafty mother made an iron-on for the blank patch. Their yell is "Suh-WEET!"(This message has been edited by DanKroh)
  14. "Yah, do yeh really want to go there? Justifying arguments based on stereotypes because they have a correlational basis?" Again, not what I said at all. I MADE no arguments based on the stereotype, so I don't know how I can justify such an argument. All I did was refute that someone else's assumption (again, not *my* assumption) based on such a stereotype is not necessarily a character attack, as you wanted to label it. That's twice now that you've tried to put words in mouth, Beavah. Gee, I guess it's not really a good day for you on that account. "I reckon you're only going to
  15. "Nah, Dan, yeh really didn't just claim that it's OK to dismiss an individual's viewpoint because the demographic group they're part of tends toward certain beliefs or practices, did you? " No, actually, I didn't. I just pointed out that rather than being an attack on a person's character, such a stereotype actually has a basis in fact, and it not something that just gets pulled out of the blue. So I see, dismissing a viewpoint of an individual because of their demographic is bad, but mocking an entire profession (or at least, a professional organization) because the conclusion of on
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