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Oooh, but maybe if it's a chip card with bluetooth! Without even taking it out of the scout's pocket, it could automatically retract a corner, then update Scoutbook accordingly. Once all four corners are retracted, it would sense when Johnny is approaching a blade and send a push notification to the nearest leader. "Warning! Warning! A scout in your vicinity must report to re-training immediately!

You mean the one that the adult is holding the trigger on? While the daughter stands behind with safety goggles, spotting? All we see is conduct well within the intent of G2SS.

@RememberSchiff, are you talking about the craft drill? The one with the hand crank? Or, did you just figure you'd toss that in while the fish were biting? @cocomax, how do you like those red sunglasses? Updating score: 0 YPT violations 0 G2SS violations 1 harsh reality:

Let me go on record (with some trepidation) that my WSJ troop is looking for its 3rd ASM. If the worthy candidate is female, I would like the opportunity to field a patrol of western PA girls.

Have you read the roster? Do you know how many adult leaders are on it? How many were present? Looking at the news wire story https://www.apnews.com/1ea6dd147080464881e604e575233aab/Beyond-cookies:-Thousands-of-girls-are-becoming-Cub-Scouts I see at least one female adult in one of the photos. Plus, on the opposite side of the lens ...according to the byline, "Holly" is a female name. Girls were on one side of boys on the other, dens were separated. So, @cocomax, did you miss these proofs that this pack is compliant with early adopter rules, or ignore them? In order to trick us into your narrative, what other truths will you obfuscate? Who else will you bear false witness against?

Correction: it was a group of two dens, one of four boys the other of four girls, in strict compliance with the rules.

I'm getting nervous. Not for being "converted" anytime soon, but that this thread might get more posts than a far more general one ...

Sigh, it doesn't look like questions from one who wants to be converted, but on the outside chance ... Discipline. Which is not usually acquired after merely one conversation. An undisciplined scout will risk life and limb of himself or his fellows in the presence of a different leader (youth or adult), that leader will correct the scout. This could repeat itself any number of times with different leaders. None of them aware that this scout has been "rolling the dice", and in that ignorance, each will allow the scout to continue this game of Totin' roulette. Because stopping at a corner is itself an act of discipline sufficient to communicate one's estimate of a scouts' hazardous behavior. Did the scout give the troop two dimes for the card? Accurately communicating risk is improving, not damaging. Firstly, scale does matter. The cost of an award often determines how it should be treated. We don't deface or rip off Totin' Chip or Firem'n Chit patches. Secondly, risk matters. Although it's a disgrace to your troop, your country, and your mamma, the risk that life or limb would be compromised to a wrapper (corner of a card ) on the ground is negligible. Likewise regarding reverence, the Almighty's graces are such that the brunt of irreverence is carried far from the camp. Such as scout is better served by tales of scapegoats. Thirdly, although we don't deface patches, we do demand that scouts live up to their uniform, and - for heinous infractions - will suspend him. That suspension includes being denied the privilege of uniforming during suspension.

You can say it, but without prior permission from GS/USA, you can't add it to any promotional flyer for a BSA activity that you intend to open to Brownies, Daisies, Cadets, or Ambassadors

I'm calling dibs ... But, I was looking to generate some scouting-relevant discussion. This being I&P, TT's "joke" is not far off even though it smarts. Every adult leader in PA is bearing the brunt of the assault trial(s). I have no doubt this and #MeToo plays into the liability calculation.

We range in size from 2-4 patrols. I find that with the APL's present, we have a pretty fruitful PLC for up to 3 patrols. Things start to deteriorate with 4 patrols forming a PLC of 11 (SPL+assistant + four pairs from each patrol + troop guide), and others can tell their experience with 5 more. From https://www.scouting.org/programs/boy-scouts/patrol-leader/

Take no thought for tomorrow, for today has enough troubles of its own. Sorry, I didn't write the rules.

I think your son needs to decide if he wants to help this guy shed some of those rough edges, determine how he wants to do it (i.e. what he can stand), and make an offer. When you run for office, you need to be prepared to deal with the good and the bad.

@cocomax, Ralph Voelker didn't say that. His quote was closed in the paragraph before. The words " probably just called Scouts by then " are Craig Sailor's. I and about 24 scouters can quote Wendy Shaw, National's Membership Growth Group Director who affirmed the name "Boy Scouts of America" will remain unchanged in 2019. But we're not journalists trying throw volatiles on a fire, so I guess you don't really know.

For those of you who weren't brought up with this. It's not a bad way to learn. There once was this thing called the Dark Ages where people read quite little and counted on a few folks talking to them directly from what they'd internalized from their own reading of books in a foriegn, imperial language. It worked, kinda sorta. We seem to be returning to that a little Reading something as a group, either with your best reader or the boys taking turns, should not be more than a 5-10 minute exercise. I wouldn't try to cover the whole handbook in a year. But rather, the boys should go through the index and pick a chapter they want to tackle in the next couple of weeks. Then, they should think of something practical the patrol should do regarding each reading.

Not a fan, because it can get in the way of a scout teaching from his experience, but for some scouts it helps them get their point across quite well.

I recently for my acceptance as 1st ASM. In our area we still have 50 slots for boys and my troop needs a 3rd ASM.

As I said earlier, parents shouldn't approach the CM directly unless they're friends. The SM/ASM would like to know what happened. Ideally the scout would be comfortable telling one or the other of them. But, given his age, a parent-report might have to do.

Sometimes adults don't realize they are a source of friction. If the CM is a friend, you may be able to point that out. But, for your son ... In general, just like captains in sports or band and their need to get feedback from the coach/director, the PL relationship with the SM/ASM is paramount. We spend a lot of time coaching boys in relationships with adults (parents, MB counselors, Rangers, etc ...). So when things aren't right, we need to know. Your son needs to review this with the SM and ASM. They are the ones trying to set a new tone, it's on them to guide both him and the CM in this new culture. Should the PL be playing catch while other guys are doing the chores he assigns? It depends on the skill of the boys doing the chores. If they need guidance, he may want to be there on top of it. If they seem like they have it under control, he may want to give them their space. Only he, the SPL/ASPL, and the SMs have a good sense of this.

First thought upon seeing this last photo: "At least some of my boys will have more fellow scouts to compare earrings with!"

Okay, "squirrel!" moment ... Anyone recognize the council patch the model is wearing? Looks like one from now defunct Greater Pittsburgh.

While we're at it, who still has bottle brushes (at home or in their mess kit)? Not the big handles plastic things, but the wire tool that looks for all the world like a miniature chimney sweep's brush?

You not so much ran afoul of the uniform rules as followed official guidelines as written. In so doing, you've undermined any authority someone with unofficial orthodoxies may have over your son. At best, they can speak from their humble opinion and then leave it up to him to make a decision that may shape future scouts for decades to come. The sewer has spoken.

Nor did I, nor my sons or any scouts I've met put anything but MBs on our sash -- not even scouts who I've told they could. So, it's probably a regional thing. @Hawkwin. the folks who wrote the Insignia Guide claim to be a very intentional lot. I once brought this up with Mike Walton on https://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2014/03/21/everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know-about-merit-badge-sashes/ So, his interpretation makes it clear that he thought equipment patches were not under "miscellaneous," but rather the guide was worded that way so that patches that would not be worn on a uniform could be included. Further down, there was some suggestion that more specifics might be in the next revision of the IG. That was four years ago. The IG's language has not been revised to specify "only temporary" or "only uniform" or "uniform-ish, but not equipment" patches. It still reads "miscellaneous." I take that to mean that The Insignia Task Force felt that this issue was not worth splitting hairs over, or Mike was wrong, and the ITF thought it would be cool if some of the smaller equipment patches made it to the back of a sash, or A correction is pending, but the ITF is holding off until they also need to add a page or two about skorts! My take: I'm not gonna violate my rule #1 by asking for official clarification. So if a scout asks, I'm replying "Yes, but neatly."

The BSA insignia guide is intentionally broad in its statement about what goes on the back of the sash. It allows "Miscellaneous" not "miscellaneous earned" patches. Again, the IG does not say "miscellaneous uniform patches". Although I'm pretty sure most of us would frown on a boy sporting a biker gang's patch! (Unless they happen to be his CO !) We want the scout to memorialize his scouting journey, so we encourage him accordingly. BTW. This is not a matter of policing. This is a matter of being prepared when a scout asks, "May I?" Broadly, our answer should be "Yes, but safely." With regard to uniforming, it should be "Yes, but neatly."