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  1. I must say I fully agree with all of the other posts thus far, particularly Bob White and Fuzzy Bear. Pay very close attention to the requirements. If he is able to do planning, provide leadership, and evaluate the progress of the project within his current physical/mental limits I would say go for it. However, since leadership is the key element the BOR wants to see from the project, make certain that some other person doesn't end up with the job delegated to them in its entirety. If the only answer he can provide to the Board when they ask "how did you provide leadership? how did you
  2. "The youth must have experienced fifteen days and nights of Boy Scout camping during the two-year period prior to the election. The fifteen days and nights must include one, but no more than one, long-term camp consisting of six consecutive days and five nights of resident camping, approved and under the auspices and standards of the Boy Scouts of America. The balance of the camping must be overnight, weekend, or other short-term camps." Based on this you may count 6 days/5 nights of summer camp. However you may not count any of the CIT or Canoebase experience, since those would be addit
  3. I never noticed this post the first time around. If you are still looking for information I will be glad to provide what I can. I am quite familiar with structure and operations of the OA at the local level, having been a Lodge Chief recently. Feel free contact me by private message if you wish.(This message has been edited by Proud Eagle)
  4. We seem to have all overlooked the fact that safety glasses are usually a good idea for axe or hatchet work. While it may be over-kill to use them for splitting wood, it is quite important for chopping.
  5. I have a few questions for you: 1. Are you also an ASM with a troop? (if yes, disregard the other questions) 2. Why are you attending Scoutmaster training? 3. As a youth Venturer, why do you want Scouting magazine? That being said, you should recieve Scouting magazine automatically if you are registered as an ASM. Oh, for male Venturers in the proper age range for attending as youth they can likely go as a part of the council contingent.(This message has been edited by Proud Eagle)
  6. Are double headed axes allowed in BSA? I know someone once told me they are not. I have never seen one at a Scout camp or in a troop set of wood tools. However, that is far from proving the point. When you check the clearence around your work site (often called checking your blood range, though having a tree in the way can be just as bad as a person) you must check both the vertical and horizontal clearence for axe work. Since we are on the subject of axes, let me pose a question related to them. I was at a council camporee about a year and a half ago and there was an adult wit
  7. I seem to recal the ranger having several "suprises" such as the use of the yum-yum bag. Though I think I know what the actual suprise being refrenced is. However you won't get it if there is a dry spell. I would group crews according to what level of trek they want to do. Find out if they want to do 50 miles over relatively flat land, or 80 over the mountains. Either that or let them make a choice of what crew to belong to, and then choose how strenous of a trek to do. However, that causes a problem, if one of the guys in a crew (or a couple) doesn't want to do a difficult trek and
  8. As much as I hate to suggest that more uniforms would be better, I do think that would be the best solution. The best idea I can think of is to create a "field uniform" in two material types, one cool weather, one warm weather. Long shirts and pants could be available in both materials, with short sleeves and shorts available in cool only. The decorations on that uniform should be kept to a minimum. There could also then be a "dress uniform", something farely simple like a uniform jacket, a shirt, pants, and tie. The uniform could be made even cheeper by allowing the substitution of items
  9. While BP may never have had anything carved into stone saying that Scouting was trying to make boys into men, I think he probably would have suggested that is certainly something Scouting supports. If you look at the qualities of manliness that Wheeler mentions you will notice most equate, at least roughly, with various values that Scouting, particularly BSA, support. I think the part where there would be some disagreement is that BP would never have been so bold as to suggest that Scouting could create men all of its own initiative. BP was also wise to avoid using any generic, easily misun
  10. I do have to agree with the general idea. However, I take slight issue with the choice of "caring adult" as the objective. While I certainly can't claim to be any great expert on such things, I think the program is greatly flawed if "caring" is its prime objective, but I don't think it is. Instead I would suggest "caring" is one of the many qualities that should be found in a successful product of the BSA program. Also, I see nothing wrong with mixing a bit of BSA and politics from time to time. If some of us get into a political discussion around the campfire at night, (or more likely, around
  11. I do have to agree with the general idea. However, I take slight issue with the choice of "caring adult" as the objective. While I certainly can't claim to be any great expert on such things, I think the program is greatly flawed if "caring" is its prime objective, but I don't think it is. Instead I would suggest "caring" is one of the many qualities that should be found in a succesful product of the BSA program. Also, I see nothing wrong with mixing a bit of BSA and politics from time to time. If some of us get into a political discussion around the campfire at night, (or more
  12. I would suggest some greater clarity in the various publications, such as the handbook, could encourage the wear of neater footwear. Certainly brown and black leather are far more appealing for most uniform occasions. Now that being said, with the activities uniform it doens't make much differenct to me what someone has on their feet. However, at a COH it is a bit odd to be wearing your orange athletic shoes. On the other hand it would be perfectly reasonable to wear those same athletic shoes during an inter-patrol basketball game. ----------------------------------- This brings
  13. I can't speak for wheeler's other posts, but most of what he posted here seems to agree with the various readings and research I have done into such matters. NJ does have a valid point about the term "liberal". Part of this has to do with the distortion of the terms over time. This is partly do to each side wishing to claim a certain heritage, and partially to denigrate the other side through false labels. Though the biggest difference is probably found in the use of what are essentially European (or perhaps British) terms to describe American politics. If you look at what the conser
  14. I would suggest the best way to prevent bad information from being circulated online would be to provide official electronic versions of the various publications on the various official national websites. Oh, and pdf can be edited if you have the full version of Acrobat. I would suggest that the manuals should remain available in hard copy, but should also be provided in a soft format.
  15. Inter-faith is the best term for a generic service. Ecumenical is the best term for a generic Christian service. Most "Scout's Own" services I have attended were ecumenical. I have attended a few that were inter-faith, but they were all within the context of the three great monotheistic faiths. The only time I have attended inter-faith services that attempted to include more than those three faiths it seemed to me to be a very awkward experience for all involved. Attempting to include everything generally makes things such that anyone that believes anything specific is excluded. Such se
  16. I will take some time and try to give you a good answer later. However, the short version is we do all sorts of stuff. The calendar for this year includes climbing (indoor, not great), backpacking (multiple weekends and Philmont), hiking, skiing, white water rafting, canoeing, cycling, summer camp, and at least one or two generic camp outs just to take it easy and fish or something.
  17. One must remeber that in most places a standard pocket knife is not considered a weapon, and is very rarely considered a deadly weapon. (Though anyone with a brain can figure out how to kill someone with just about anything. Schools are filled with nasty weapons: lunch trays (especially when broken, produce very sharp, hard edge, saw someone get cut up very badly by one), forks, spoons, dinner knives, anything made of glass, hammers, saws, scissors, power tools, toxic chemicals, flammible liquids, flammible gases, books, rocks, chairs, string, wire, baseball bats, hockey sticks, musical ins
  18. I think it is odd that there was no section in the original lease allowing for renegotiating or renewing the lease. Or was the problem with the way that the original 1950s lease was issued? Those sort of things are certainly the norm with private leases. I also know they are found in many government leases. It is just common curtesy to provide for offering the same party the same property (though likely under new terms) after the initial lease expires. NJ, think about this. The building on the property and other improvements the council have made would likely cost millions to r
  19. This thread was spun from another thread.They world is full of morons. I am not talking about Eamons son either. Why in the world do we live in a country where a Boy Scout that accidentaly takes a knife to school gets suspended for 3 days? There is no rational argument for that. It isn't that different from my apartments weapons ban. Obviously every apartment contains at least a knife or two that would qualify as weapons. Who in their right minds wold stock a kitchen and not include a good size knife? Fortunately they don't really inforce the weapons ban, though I am sure a gun
  20. Do put emphasis on their being places one shouldn't carry a knife. I once saw someone get hit in the head with a knife because of a freak incident involving someone having a knife in their jacket pocket in school. I have also known many Scouters that have lost knives at the air port security checks.
  21. If she is qualified and does the job well it would be fine. The only big plus that men have is that sometimes people seem to get some weird us/them thing with females in Scouting. Also, some men were actually participants at BSA summer camps, which could theoretically be a plus, but not all were. So in the final analysis it would work with me. On the other hand if the entire leadership of the camp was female I would start to ask a few questions.
  22. Let me clairify what I was trying to say. I intended for that to be clearly seen as the troop intending to do things correctly (i.e. the BSA way). Unfortunately that wasn't how some of you deciphered it. We aren't creating some sort of "ideal troop way", instead we are trying to do things the BSA way, but sometimes finding that difficult to do.
  23. The Jamboree may be a non-issue depending on what staff position he has. I know that most of the staff from my council at the last Jambo rode on the buses with the participants. I think they had to be there about 2 days early, so the rest of us needed to be in the area for touring DC and what not, so they just got dropped off one day. Now if your council isn't doing touring for whatever reason (close proximitiy, save money, whatever) then just forget about all that.
  24. There is one case that can force degree requirements changes. If the degree program is acredited by some group and they revise their standards or find the university is not complying with standards, then the requirements would have to change if the student wants an accredited degree. I knew one person that happened to.
  25. Perhaps I can answer this question from a slightly different perspective. My dad was the den leader during Webelos. When I moved into Boy Scouts (along with the other members of the den, all of whom joined the same troop I did) he was soon asked to serve as Committee Chairman. So, for the next several years he was heavily involved in what the troop did. Because he was the CC he wasn't at every meeting or every outing, but he was at many of them. Generally I never really minded dad being around. There were at least a few times it was good to have him around. I definetly was proud of the
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