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  1. I'd love to hear more about the experience of working on a doctorate. I'm not a commissioner - but I see it in my future. Our council also holds a College of Commissioner Science.
  2. As a former CC & CM, this is 100% correct. The decision on who is an adult volunteer is up to the CC & COR. If either of your rejects a volunteer - it's done. Since you both don't want him to be CM - this is easy - he's not the Cubmaster. You don't need anyone's permission to reject him - it's your call.
  3. FWIW - I just logged in with my my.scouting.org account & password. So, this doesn't appear to broken for everyone. Wish I could help more.
  4. Got to thinking about my response and wanted to expand a bit here. I'm 100% behind being a member of the OA meaning something and there being a high bar for entry. I was not an OA member as a Scout and always looked up to those guys. As an adult, I've never been able to get to summer camp as a volunteer. So, even when I had 15 nights of camping, I refused to let myself be considered for membership by the troop committee because I didn't meet the rules. I'm also 100% behind units making common sense decisions when the info is imperfect. It's Scouting - not a law firm. So, sometim
  5. Then the BSA needs to update the OA eligibility rules. I'm all for setting the bar high for membership in the OA. I get that we all want it to be BSA camping - but it's not what's written.
  6. Right. Here's how I'd read this: I see only two restrictions on how the 10 nights are spent: not more than 3 nights on a single trip must happen while the Scout is a registered troop, crew, or ship member. This could be troop camping, cub camping, family camping, friend camping, solo camping, whatever. It's not vague so much as it's not what you'd expect. I think the point is that it's the society of honor campers. Whether you're camping with the BSA or somewhere else - you're still camping.
  7. After reading this I see their point. Before I was under the impression that the storm was unexpected and their lawsuit was suggesting that the camp should have removed all trees in jeopardy of falling. Learning now that there was a severe thunderstorm warning, this does seem like a valid argument. As unit leaders we should have responsibility to see that our Scouts are in a shelter if possible. However, when at a council facility, the camp staff should make sure that everyone is alerted in the case of a severe thunderstorm warning and that sheltering plans are known and understood.
  8. Hi @Treflienne, I've got two daughters who are Girl Scouts, so I'm familiar with an investiture ceremony. I've never seen anything similar done in the BSA - whether in Cub Scouts or Boy Scouts. This does appear to be something unique to the GSUSA. The closest thing is the awarding of the first rank - but there is no special ceremony or oath made in front of the group. More a recognition that the Scout is on his/her way on the Scouting trail.
  9. Thanks @Eagledad This is great. Next question is probably a little off topic - but seems appropriate given the discussion... As a general flow, how did your pack meetings tend to go. I see you've got: under an hour 2-3 skits several walk on skits high level awards only very limited announcements - mostly just a few jokes to allow Scouts to sing the announcements song Did you typically do activities, have guest speakers, etc? We're your meetings more hands-on with the boys doing things or were they more like entertainment where the boys sit and wat
  10. Good point @Eagledad I'm struck by how many people do the Bobcat face painting ceremony. I suspect there are many Cubmasters (myself included) who were new enough to the role that they were just trying to figure things out. You look around or online and this is a popular ceremony to try - so people do it. It would have been helpful to me if I had seen some other good examples of the kinds of things that were well received for a ceremony like this. I wonder if it would be worth folks sharing more details about ceremonies that worked for them and why. Just a thought. As an asi
  11. I get the pressure though to add elaborate ceremonies. As a Cubmaster, I started with very simple presentations for rank awards. Then, I tried to make them more meaningful - so that meant more talking in an attempt to make them a bigger deal. Then folks start saying- too much talking. So, you find the Bobcat ceremony like this one. Scouts and adults all love it. Now you're thinking- wow, they finally like It and you start looking for more like this.
  12. There isn't a line of succession proscribed by the BSA. In theory, the chartered organization is supposed to appoint a new one. Practically, if you don't have a Committee Chair, then someone needs to step up and take it on. However, as the Committee Chair is the volunteer who organizes and supervises all the other volunteers, it's an important role. Another key role of the CC is to work with the SM and Committee to set the overall direction for the troop. Ideally, you want an experienced Scouter and good leader in the role. I'd look to promote one of your strong committee members or
  13. If the BSA started doing a couple hundred thousand a year, I imagine it would be pretty cost effective to insource it. I imagine the background checks are really just checking the names against a number of different lists. The bigger issue I see is the fact that adults are considered active before background checks are done. It creates a culture where we submit the applications and then don't think about it. Really, the BSA ought to require background checks prior to allowing a leader to begin serving. Unit leaders should really be required to wait until they get affirmative notific
  14. Sounds like a smaller council that will have about 6,000 scouts in a few years after the Mormon split is done. I can imagine that they don't need 5 camps and also that if Seattle has some big camps that it draws scouts there. It's a shame to see the properties go though.
  15. @cocomax - it seems broken for me too. I tried from Safari and I get the same blank map. @dkurtenbach - This seems emblematic of a larger problem in Scouting - the strain of the National/Council/District structure. National is good at coming up with materials. Councils do a reasonable job of doing council level activities. The weak link is where this all intersects with local units. Really, this kind of training should be district (and maybe) council level training. If one district was bad at training units to recruit, then it's an opportunity for districts to improve. That it's a
  16. I think the BSA's National marketing today is in line with what you'd expect. Marketing is expensive, so they limit it to specific locations and times. Today I think this means more and more online marketing. While this is fine, It strikes me that what Scouting needs is something with bigger impact. Something designed to change the conversation about Scouting and help get scores of youth excited about it. I don't know how it's done in other countries and would be interested to learn more. I think it would be interesting for the BSA to do some sort of marketing experiment with 10
  17. Agreed. While I can understand that he believes opening Scouting to all is a noble thing to do, I agree that it won't fix the membership issue. It's really an issue of needing to increase the number of youth who want to be Scouts. Marketing, local recruiting, and program quality are the key things here.
  18. I'm 99% sure you'll be fine to attend. I cannot imagine them not accepting your medical condition. If you're still concerned, find out who the course director is and ask. He or she will be able to work through it with you.
  19. So, I got to wondering. Why would National tell councils to stop printing these? This is done by council employees at council expense. Why would National even care?
  20. Most certainly they deserve to be heard and compensated. It would be wrong to interpret my comments as suggesting otherwise. I fully, wholeheartedly, and without reservation believe in supporting the victims of child abuse. I know victims of child abuse and grew up in the era when the scandals in the Catholic Church were happening. I grew up Catholic and I vividly recall allegations that it happened at my church at the hands of a priest that I knew. From what little was shared with me as a kid, that priest abused one friend of mine and perhaps more. I remember my parents having to ask me
  21. This quote just saddens me. I just wish we could find a way through this without having to carve up BSA assets. I'm struck by the fact that the people who suffer from a BSA bankruptcy and carving up of 100 years of assets are not investors or hedge funds - it's millions of Scouts today and in the future. Yet, those who were abused clearly deserve compensation. What happened to them was reprehensible. I don't know how to make sense of this.
  22. Good to know. Thanks it occurred to me while I was sewing patches that I should have waited. Glad to know there is probably no big change coming.
  23. Thanks @walk in the woods. You've hit on something I've struggled with. Please let me get your take. I'm a firm believer in the inverted triangle of Scouting. Scouting happens in units and the district is here to support that. My whole Scouting career has been 95% unit level service with the occasional foray into district or council things. Where do you see the balance between district as servent to the units and district as Scouting community leader? For example - if I look around my district today, I guarantee that each units has different goals and objectives. Most, I expect
  24. As we try to compare, I think the other reality is that there really is no equivalent of a pack/troop in the GSUSA system. In essence, I think this is a big part of why the GSUSA has less of a camping & outdoor focus. Many adults gain confidence in camping as part of the pack structure. The pack knows how to camp, newer parents and leaders tag and learn. Since the GSUSA doesn't have that, it's harder for their leaders to develop those skills. I'm guessing this is why two organizations that started out pretty similar are now so different.
  25. For sure - not nationals best idea. Most unit leaders I know are never going to bother to print either. This might as well be the end of each.
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