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>>STDs, child support payments, fury of a scorned woman - there is much fear to go around! Not that fear should be the motivation factor but as I've always believed, it takes two to tango.

>>We have become a society of sexually irresponsible and immoral people.

>>This is a personal issue between a woman, her doctor and God.This is a personal issue between a woman, her doctor and God.

>>I'm still concerned that turning work into a punishment sends the wrong message about work.

>>In the world of testosterone laden men, doing push-ups on command is a power issue.

>>Odd that we've chosen to "reduce" that sin to a personal matter before God, though escalated being gay, despite no mention of it from Jesus.

Generally Jesus spoke in the behaviors that are pleasing to God, not in what are offensive to Him. The many references of sexual or family relationships in the New Testament are always with the man and woman. Even the commandment of honoring thy father and mother is repeated in the New Testament. Clearly Jesus is guiding us in how we should behave to get closer to God, as opposed to giving an endless list of behaviors that are offensive to God. Barry

Wow! what a great idea. I think however, you need to Wow! What a great idea. I think however, you need to consider that if JLTC or NYLT are not popular, a JLT theme camporee will struggle as well. I was given the responsibility of bringing the scouts back to our JLTC when our council struggled with JLT as well. What we did was make it a boy run program. Instead of sending participants to a program to sit and watch the staff act out leadership skills, we made the participants plan and run the four day long program. Our program became very popular and successful. If you can organize

>>As far as the votes in states on gay marriage, yes, the people have spoken, but I'd be interested in looking in those states to see exactly what people spoke.

>>In religious matters, we should, I think, err to the side of freedom of expression. As I've said, every religion should be able to act as they see fit, but they shouldn't be allowed to place their views into civil law in such a way that limits the religious rights of others.>When GWB was elected I tried to tell people that he would be the worst thing to happen to personal freedoms, womans rights, the environment and education. I am still waiting to proven wrong.

>>I believe the Democrat's problems (much of what you've outlined) is NOT with the Democratic party, but with their leadership. The rank and file of that party makes a far more articulate argument for what the party should stand for than any leader I have seen come along (though I was very impressed with Barrack Obama's speech at the Democrat's convention). I have always been a Republican. But I feel that party rapidly slipping away from it's ideals as it rushes to become a wholly owned subsidiary of the Christian fundamentalists.

>>While you have TG's in the NSP are they full memebers of the NSP or are they in some way both there old patrol and the NSP at the same time?

We tried it several different ways and keeping the Troop Guides (TG) with the new scouts until after summer camp worked the best for us. NSPs were created as an attempt to slow down the high loss of first year scouts. New scouts struggle their first six months because they are overwhelmed by the new experience of personal responsibility and independence required in the boy run program. It usually takes about six months to get use to the boy run program. Until then, new scouts need the constant consistent guidance and role modeling so develop the confidence and habits needed to enjo

>> People are born gay like they're born left-handed. They don't choose it like a clothing style or a religion.

Hi All This is a strange discussion for me. I'm sure there are good reasons to have an adult sit in camp at all times, I just can't think of any. Let me start by saying that in all our years of summer camps, we never required at least one adult stay in the campsite while everyone else is gone. Never heard of a camp that reguired it. Also, we didn't check on our scouts in their classes. Not sure why we would need to do that. We didn't care if they thought we were just sitting around camp because we told them that summer camp was also our vacation. Usually our adults could be seen

>>What the Troop committee could do is develop appropriate consequences for violations of the Oath & Law.

>>While the W.I.S.E. information is useful, I take issue with it in this case. I do not believe discipline is within the realm of responsibility of the PLC

Hi All Thanks for all your heartwarming support. Nothing like hanging around the Internet campfire with friends to calm the soul. Kyle is home and I have to say the BW pretty told a similar story with his son. One of the adults called his wife a day before they came home to give a report of the week. Kyles crew was hit with rain and thunderstorms almost everyday. The two worst storms hit their camp the night before they got on the water and the night before they got off. They came off the water one day early because one boy injured his ankle while chopping firewood. They were forced

>>I honestly believe that the reason why so many troops spend so much time on these darn merit badges is because everything they need to do is clearly laid out for them and requires little or no imagination.

>>Chill, she's your daughter - one way or another, she'll knock 'em out!

>>THEY LOVED IT!!! It was an adventure that they talk about still. They stayed together, helped each other, made good decisions and survived without any injuries.

Hey thanks for the comforting replies. I know I'm over reacting, but I just needed to talk to some friends. I will let you know how things go, but they don't get off the water until Friday, which must be part of the plan for me to grow a little. Later we will get into how to not overreact to a cute blond blue eyed daughter who just got on the pom squad. She seems very popular with the boys all of a sudden. I'm learning that as far as fatherhood goes, girls are different from boys. At least I know Kyle is trained, how do I train her from boys. Thanks all for everything. Ba

HI All Is there anything harder than being a parent? Kyle, my 18 year old son is on the Canadian lakes in Northern Tier this week with his church group. All the boys in the group are Eagle scouts from other troops, so they are experienced in the outdoors. But Kyle is the only one with previous Northern Tier experience. However, by the looks of the Minnesota radar weather maps this week, his crew is getting clobbered almost everyday with heavy thunderstorms. Its not like Kyle has never seen thunderstorms in the wilderness, our troop went three years strait with rain on every camp ou

Good post Eamonn. One fact that some of us tend to loose sight is even though this is a program for boys, it is the adults program to guide boys into developing habits of making ethical decisions. If in fact the adults dont teach and train through the program, then it really isnt a boy run program. On that, we also dont talk much about adult side of development and growth. Even you mention that through the years, you got better at motivating scouts. I dont think that I have ever met a good SM with less than three years experience. The SM and other adults need to develop the habit of lear

>>The feeling I get from the other adult leaders is that they are looking for instant results to teach the boys leadership. They seem to think there is a magic technique where they can sit these boys down and tell them how to be leaders and that instantly it turns these boys into leaders.