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>>if the cause of the number of THE injuries was based on the percentage of scouts served, then certainly we would have seen more UMMC scouts involved.

Hi All >>The ideals moving out of front-and -center and the slack in uniforming corresponds most directly to the dramatic improvement in the use of the patrol method and further improvements in the leadership method brought by the current SM.

Hi All If your program is such that it contiues to grow and mature, eventally your scouts and program will have the maturity ability to expaned to all the funtions you describe. If in fact you don't consider these ideas and others like them to continue to challenge the scouts, you will find that your program will become an obstical to growth. You have to push the limits of the program so the scouts can learn their stregths and abilities. At one time or another, our scouts did everything on your list. I love this scouting stuff. Barry

>>The issue of being as under weight as he is can cause medical issues and may be brought up during the health check at base camp.

>>It will be the most miserable week of your life, unless you went to Paris Island for boot camp,

Hi All >> I would end with a few words about confidentiality and it would end there as the situation will be out of your hands and in the hands of the SE where it belongs.

>>Did you use these people to prepare the CO for their role? If you knew the importance of the COs role in supporting a scout unit and you saw that it was not going to exist there why did you choose to start the troop there?"

>>The only reservation I can make in all this is to say that Juris' plan is not for newbies. But I would also say being an SM is not for newbies

>>The Council COmmisioner, who I am not sure read any of it, said that the Quality Unit took care of what I was talking about, which of course it doesnt,

>>US Scouting might have a problem with being a part the "world-wide family of Scouts" given our different interpretation of some aspects of Scouting, but it gives us something to strive for, anyway.

>>This seems like a bizarre situation to me. What was its origin?

>>Why can't it just be explained? Not evrything fits into neat one sentence packages.>I do not see how the membership loss proves that First Class Emphasis isn't working.

>>Again do not assume that everyone misinterprets the information, manydo not. Some understand it and just choose to ignore it,. Some understand it but disagree and so they change it. Some do not understand it at so do not try to learn it. Not everyone who doesn't use the program incorrectly simply interpreted it wrong.

I've never been much in favor of bringing Webelos to Camporees. It takes away from Webelos Woods and the Camporee for Troops. I was always out voted on that discussion. As far as knowing what the Camporee Events or Theme is going to be a head of time, our District has never been that organized. Which is probably one reason why it is not that well atttended. The best Camporee I've seen, other than our Night Trooporee, was a Backpacking Camporee. All the scouts had to break camp on Saturday Morning and hike five miles to their next camp. They had to stop at Skills Event stations along

Really good post Beav. I think there are two equal causes to the problem of practicing skills. One is that many of the skills learned arent used in our bungee-cord duct-tape culture just as you explained. The other is the creation of the NSP we have been talking about. Now please dont get wrong and think that I believe all scoutings problems are caused by the NSP. I personally believe we need the NSP in todays program, so Im not anti NSP, I just dont like some of the ways they are presented in the manuals. NSPs were created to help new scouts get more comfortable in the new troop so they

>>So, we can beat our heads against the wall trying to get people to read the books, or we can present the program in other ways.

Hmm, I was thinking more on the backpacking treks and suggest a backpack raincover from Campmor or even a large trash bag. That being said, I learned a lot from le Voyageur's post for our next Northern Tier trip. Never thought about using a dry bag to carry water. Barry

I tried dealing with these situations as topics in the ASM meetings and not dealing with person directly. If the adult is still a problem after that, then I talked to them directly. But that was rare. Barry

>>The purpose for First Class Emphasis is to focus leaders in the right place.>That is what the New Scout Patrol does and yet some leaders refuse to do that either.

I was just talking to my lovely wife the other day that this will be the first time for me to watch our 4th of July parade from the sidelines. My boys are in college and out of troop, but my daughter is now on the High School Pom Team, Squad? Patrol? Anyway she gets to ride a float in the parade. Now why didn't our troop think of that? Barry

We never stand in the way of a scout's ambitions and goals, in fact we admire those qualities. But at the same time, we also point out that camp is suppose to be a fun experience. We usually have several scouts go again their forth and fifth year. Have a great Scouting Day. Barry

>>I think what national was trying to affect was the retention rate of new scouts that first year because they were experiencing huge membership losses and still are at three pivotal times in the scouting timeline.

>>Rather than lower the program lets raise the leadership.

>>I dont want to come off as the Scouting know-it-all but it looks like I am the only one who has taken the time to read the SM Handbook.

>>Considering only the points I have just shared can anyone tell us what possible negative attributes there are to this program planning method?