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  2. carebear3895

    New Sex Abuse Charges

    See, that's where BSA confuses me. in the FAQ's of the barriers to abuse it says exactly that, but then a few questions down is says Lion/Tiger adult partners don't meet the two deep requirement at Den meetings. A straight up contradiction. What if a Den meeting is also a fundraising event? How do you know what events are and aren't OK to substitute a parent?! Sorry for Hijacking the thread.
  3. walk in the woods

    Girl Scouts vs. School Dress Code

    Not the GSUSA, but, an interesting take on the general topic, https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/houston-high-school-s-new-dress-code-takes-aim-parents-n998041
  4. walk in the woods

    New Sex Abuse Charges

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/lawyer-demands-boy-scouts-open-perversion-files-n997786 as it popped up in my Google news feed today.
  5. elitts

    New Sex Abuse Charges

    Except for the activities where a parent can substitute for a registered adult leader. (Currently that list includes merit badge sessions and fundraising events)
  6. ParkMan

    Eliminate the Eagle application?

    We determined in our district that the workbook is optional, but encouraged. We went round and round on it, but in the end no text in hte G2A showed that it had to be completed and so we deemed it optional. On a general Eagle application form - I don't think it's terirble that there is a specific form for this - even if the fields are redundant. There are a ton of times in life that Scouts will have to complete a form. They will also have to document successful completion of projects as well. Given the big deal that is earning Eagle, it doesn't see unreasonable that they have a form for this. I fully agree though that the form ought to be online so as to move it expeditiously through the approval process.
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  8. Cambridgeskip

    Best comfort items & traditions for summer camp

    In recent years there have normally been several sets of "exploding kittens" floating round camp. I don't know if that has made it to your side of the pond yet. It's quite addictive We normally take a volley ball net with us as well and sling it up in a convenient spot (remembering to take it down at dusk. There was that one time.....)
  9. mashmaster

    Best comfort items & traditions for summer camp

    I remember my son's first summer camp experience. He was in a hammock overnight and some other scout got a food package from home. A racoon stole the package and decided to eat right under the hammock. Freaked my son out and the other scout was upset at the other scouts for stealing his food.....
  10. mashmaster

    Trailer Recommendation

    Our chuck box is a plastic tote from home depot 🙂 Advantage is light weight and you can hose it out when someone spills oil in it.
  11. Terasec

    Venmo

    if your going to use a service similar to venmo, you should have them use the service your bank uses each bank uses a different service provider for such when its your own bank theres usually no fees for you if your accepting someone elses transfer company you incur fee's you shouldn't have to incur fee's for such,
  12. qwazse

    Eliminate the Eagle application?

    @RememberSchiff we all know the whole point of the application and the workbook is to make life easier for adults. If we wanted to make it a better experience for the scout, these would be pages in his handbook, which he would fill out and submit personally, or ... take pictures of and send to council. They could also be fields in Scoutbook ... the whole thing (spare us the pictures) could be plain text.
  13. MacBrave

    Trailer Recommendation

    Yep, we have three of them. :
  14. qwazse

    Best comfort items & traditions for summer camp

    No joke. A friend was planning a mom's weekend away. They hiked into their site and before they finished setting up their tent, a bear lumbered in and made straight for the smellables which were sealed in a dry bag. They didn't even have a chance to get it out of their packs, he did that for them after tearing everything apart because - well, he couldn't smell exactly where the food was. There's no way he tracked them to their sight. He probably didn't even smell the food! He just knew to make for a campsite along a trail as soon as he heard weekend cars and motorcycles winding up the valley. Dinner was being delivered! If he waited too long it would be tucked up and away.
  15. mashmaster

    Trailer Recommendation

    Agreed, I am personally a fan of camping without trailers (other than our small 130# sailboats). I find that it helps keep extra crap from coming that isn't needed. All the scouts load everything into a backpack, a small cooler for the patrol and small dry food bag. Out entire unit can share a single chuckbox. I have seen chuckboxes for each patrol for some troops that are monstrous. A small stove, pot, pan with a few utensils will cook food just fine. If we are fancy we will bring a couple of dutch ovens. And for scouts that can't afford a backpack, there are older or ex scouts that loan or give them away if asked, goodwill has them, and even got great deals at REI garage sales for backpacks and tents.
  16. mashmaster

    Eliminate the Eagle application?

    The fault with that is the person on the board rather than the form. The conversation should cover the entire career in scouting. It sounds like the Advancement chair for your district needs to talk with the adults on the EBOR about what to focus on and what not to do.
  17. We have a marathon winner with similar rules. It is great for scouts on their 4th or 5th PWD that are bored with the other awards. Also, it’s great for those that just have slower cars and keeps them interested. We give the slowest car the “Es-Car-Go” award...
  18. RememberSchiff

    Eliminate the Eagle application?

    Maybe get two birds with one stone by adding on form: This form is to be completed by Eagle Advisor. If Eagle candidate has no advisor, this form need not be completed.
  19. fred8033

    Eliminate the Eagle application?

    I'm sad when I see that happen. Our current EBOR chair does a great job as keeping the focus on getting to know the scout. It's great to see that. I have seen previous EBORs have the wrong tone that really alienated people.
  20. fred8033

    Eliminate the Eagle application?

    I don't view the PDF workbook as a preparation for the real world. I view it as a constraint to control previous paperwork process abuses. Though it has hoops, the three page proposal s about as short as I've seen. The plan and report are pretty short too. The key point is the workbook is not the learning objective. The key is that the developing, planning and leading a project is the requirement. The paperwork is an enabler to the process, but not the requirement itself or even the core learning objective. I'd agree that an online system would be better. I'd be glad if we could upgrade. But still I'm happy with what we have. It's way better than the pre-2011 situation. And this PDF in a printed version could still be available for those scouts not fully online ... which is amazingly not as rare I I thought it would be.
  21. carebear3895

    New Sex Abuse Charges

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  22. Eagledad

    New Sex Abuse Charges

    That’s not confusing at all.😳 Barry
  23. carebear3895

    New Sex Abuse Charges

    Yessir. "Two registered adult leaders 21 years of age or over are required at all Scouting activities, including meetings."
  24. jjlash

    Venmo

    Again - wow. The article I found was unsettling from a privacy perspective. This one is unsettling from a human being perspective - the quote that jumped out at me (because Ive been seen similar references in other places recently) is “changes friendships and makes them more transactional” .
  25. carebear3895

    New Sex Abuse Charges

    *Sigh* The Organization is still called Boy Scouts of America. Just the 11-17 program is now called Scouts BSA
  26. mrkstvns

    Best comfort items & traditions for summer camp

    Yes, it's mighty inconvenient when the squirrels and chipmunks get into your snack supply...
  27. Eagle1993

    New Sex Abuse Charges

    I think the reported possible bankruptcy got the trial lawyers kicked into high gear to find clients before the BSA files. I think it should be made clear that the BSA’s perversion files were intended to keep predators out of scouting. Recent testimony indicates the BSA has 17 employees checking annual adult registrations against this list to help ensure they didn’t register as leaders. This is a bit different than the Catholic Church who just moved priests around. The BSA was operating in a time of no national background checks and in many ways should be commended for some of this work. If there are specific cases where they ignored reports or violated standards at the time, they should be held responsible. However, it seems like much of this is now about trial lawyers trying to hit a payday before bankruptcy.
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